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Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

Posted on: January 10, 2012 4:41 pm
Edited on: January 10, 2012 5:00 pm
 
McCoy's stint as Cleveland's starter may already be over. (US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

The Browns begin this offseason like most others: with plenty of questions at key positions and plenty of needs at others. Chief among them: quarterback.

Cleveland drafted Colt McCoy in the third round in 2010, team president Mike Holmgren's first year with the organization. Injuries forced McCoy onto the field as a rookie and despite the odds, he fared well. So well, in fact, that he appeared to have the job for 2011 and hopefully longer.

Instead, McCoy's sophomore season was a combination of an unoriginal offensive philosophy, a paucity of playmakers, and in the end, injuries. He didn't play the final three weeks of the season and first-year head coach Pat Shurmur was uninterested in committing to McCoy as the team's starter in 2012.

“As we go forward here with Colt, he’s done some really good things,” Shurmur said according to wire reports. “Get him back healthy, get him in an offseason where he has a chance to develop. I expect that Colt will improve just like I expect (backup) Seneca (Wallace) will improve and whoever the quarterbacks are here. I think that can be said for all positions, so the best quarterback will play when we start the season.”


The Browns have the No. 4 and No. 22 picks in April's draft and it's reasonable to think that they'll seriously consider a quarterback. Andrew Luck is destined for Indianapolis, who'll take him first overall, but the next two teams -- the Rams and the Vikings -- drafted their franchise QBs in 2010 (Sam Bradford) and 2011 (Christian Ponder). Which means that, even with USC's Matt Barkley returning to school, Heisman trophy winner Robert Griffin III of Baylor should be on the board. And Cleveland could be interested.

The Cleveland Plain Dealer's Tony Grossi writes that "I would not automatically eliminate the Baylor quarterback from consideration with the Browns' top pick simply because he is a product of the one-read, shotgun spread offense."

Not a ringing endorsement, but it's also January. A lot can change between now and late April. A lot can change between now and the start March too, when the Cardinals owe Kevin Kolb a $7 million roster bonus.

So why mention Kolb in the middle of a post about the Browns' quarterback needs? Yep, that's right -- should the Cards decide to cut their losses with Kolb after one season, Cleveland might be a potential landing spot.

And that prospect brings us back to Grossi:

"Baylor coach Art Briles was the coach at University of Houston when Kevin Kolb rolled up similar numbers -- without the rushing yards and touchdowns -- in the very same offense. … Kolb was a much better quarterback in the West Coast offense in which he was schooled in Philadelphia. Arizona doesn't run it. Also, Kolb was drafted by Philadelphia partly based on evaluations made by (Tom) Heckert and coach Pat Shurmur -- the Browns' top two football men. Heckert was the Eagles' general manager, though he didn't have final football authority, and Shurmur was the team's quarterbacks coach."

Kolb is one year into a five-year deal in Arizona that will pay him $63 million, including $20 million in guarantees. But a concussion and a toe injury limited him to just nine games in 2011 where he completed 57.7 of his passes for 1,955 yards, 9 touchdowns and 8 interceptions.

We're not convinced Kolb is much of an upgrade over McCoy, and certainly not at starting-quarterback money. Which is why, at least at this early stage of the process, that RGIII could be the frontrunner. Unless, of course, the Browns draft Texas A&M's Ryan Tannehill. The Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot writes that the team "will likely take a hard look" at him, too.

Whatever happens, the organization has to nail this draft. With an extra first and fourth-rounder courtesy of the Falcons, and coming off a four-win season, Holmgren can turns things around quickly with the right players. Otherwise, the team's future will look a lot like its past and present.

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Comments

Since: May 22, 2007
Posted on: January 11, 2012 7:13 am
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

I can't imagine the Browns taking a chance on Kevin Kolb, but I wonder why the Cardinals are ready to cut him loose after just one injury plagued season? As you state, Kolb isn't much of an upgrade over Colt McCoy. Has anyone even seen the Browns offense lately. They don't have much for RBs and their WRs aren't great either. Their best offensive player is kickoff and punt returner. They have a lot more issues than just QB...and if they are to beat the Steelers, Ravens and Bengals in their division, they need a lot of offenstive help.



Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: January 11, 2012 4:11 am
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

Oh, and whoever drafts Richardson is a damn fool.  That steroid injected tub of lard will be out of football in 5 years, guaranteed!!!  You think Hillis was a flash in the pan?  HAAA!  Richardson would be lucky if he doesn't get cut before the season starts!



Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: January 11, 2012 4:07 am
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

While RG3 would be a good fit in Cleveland, you should by no means take him fourth overall!  Blackmon, Blackmon, Blackmon!  Should I repeat that? Blackmon...all day!  Then, RG3 at Pick #22, because of course, quarterbacks go fast nowadays.  I think he'll fall to them.  Most of the teams that were crummy last year were crummy this year too, and they gutted the QB corps like a fish in that draft pool last year.  Not nearly as many QBs needed in this draft, which won't hurt the Browns in this quarterback-challenged draft.  When-not if-Shurmur gets fired, McCoy will serve as a capable backup to the next Cam Newton, making the quarterback position once and for all the team's greatest strength.  I expect Holmgren to pull a rabbit out of his hat, take my advice, and prove wrong every bad word I ever said about him.  Go Browns!




Since: Mar 27, 2009
Posted on: January 11, 2012 2:52 am
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

Whatever the decision ends up being, you can bet that Mike "The Genious" Holmgren will f_ck it up.  Man I sure would like to have a gig like his making $5M a year to do nothing to improve your team.  Last time I checked the Browns won 5 games in 2010 with Mangini and Holmgren brought in "his own guy" Shurmur and won 4 games.... great improvement Mike!

No, until the ownership wakes up and realizes that they have been duped by Homgren, the Browns will continue to be the poster child for mediocrity in the NFL.  Oh and one more thing Holmgren... if Blackmon is still on the board at #4 you'd better grab him.  How many times can you pass on these blue chip recievers with an absolutely pathetic recieving corp on the present team.  Please, don't waste any more first round picks on the defensive side of the ball and get some offensive playmakers on this team!



Since: Feb 4, 2007
Posted on: January 10, 2012 11:02 pm
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

As a bengals fan, I don't want the Browns to get RG3 or Justin Blackmon! I don't like the thought of facing either of those guys twice a year! RG3 is the obvious choice for Cleveland, hopefully someone trades up with the Rams and takes RG3!



Since: Jan 8, 2012
Posted on: January 10, 2012 10:19 pm
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

<span style="color: #000000;"> I mean REALLY drafting a QB?  How many Big 12 Qbs have been 1st round picks in the last 8 yrs and panned out to be ANYTHING. I know you cant call any. I wouldnt take RG3. Like the kid. Cleveland is missing too many other things to waiste the pick on a QB they need a TEAM and a COACH.



Since: Mar 20, 2009
Posted on: January 10, 2012 9:53 pm
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

Listen up Browns fans...you have your franchise quarterback in Colt McCoy. You even thought so yourself in 2010 before he got hurt. What you really need to take a step back into the land of NFL respectability is to improve your overall roster. And given the bounty of picks you have this season it should be a no brainer who you should draft.

1st round #4 overall: Trent Richardson RB Alabama. You can't count on Peyton Hillis being back next year. It seems to me he quit on the team and will not be brought back next season. Not to mention you missed on Montario Hardesty. He is a bust by NFL standards. Your RB's were sub-par at best this season. Drafting Richardson gets you that smash mouth runner you need in the AFC North to keep Baltimore, Cincinnati, and Pittsburgh's defenses honest and not sitting on the pass.

1st round #22 overall: Janoris Jenkins CB north Alabama. Another area needing addressed is the secondary. Although decent with Haden, Brown is no longer a top tier corner and you could slot Jenkins in day one opposite Haden like they were meant to be at the University of Florida. This tandem will bring back to Cleveland the ability to blitz a lot more knowing you have quality DB's to defend the pass.

2nd round: Alshon Jeffrey WR South Carolina. Based on the fact Cleveland desperately needs a deep threat for whoever their QB will be, I think if Jeffrey falls to the second round the Browns could be sitting in the catbird seat to grab a potential 1st round talent here.

3rd round: Ryan Tannehill QB Texas A&M. While I believe Colt McCoy is the guy in Cleveland and should be, I also belive Shurmur and Holmgren would be willing to take a flyer on Tannehill in the third round if he falls to them there.

4th round: Dan Herron RB Ohio State. It seems like I am going heavy on the offensive side of the ball in this run down for Cleveland, but they need help all over and adding Richardson and Herron would significantly add quality depth to their most glaring deficiency at RB.

4th round (from Atlanta): Charles Brown CB North Carolina. Cleveland lacks depth in their secondary.

5th round: Joe Looney OG Wake Forest. Always need to be investing in offensive lineman.

6th round: Trenton Robinson S Michigan State. Again strengthening the DB's.

The fact is you  have spent a lot of high draft picks on the Defensive line and linebackers. Its time those picks produce and you spend some time on the skill players.



Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2012 9:18 pm
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

If they really want a QB, a better idea would be to go get Luck and quit f-ing around. Browns have picks to play with here.



Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: January 10, 2012 9:07 pm
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

Don't rely see either guys in Cleveland. I can see the Browns trading for more draft picks if RG3 lands in their lap. By then, they will have made moves (or not) at QB in free agency.
A few more picks in their pocket and a lower round QB to challenge McCoy will be all they need for QB. Browns can shore up WR, Offensive line, runnig back and defense.



Since: Jan 3, 2012
Posted on: January 10, 2012 8:25 pm
 

Could Browns be interested in RG3, Kolb?

    Browns offensive line was not protecting the McCoy or Wallace when he played.  Shurmurs scheme didn't help protect the quarterback either, but getting Kolb would be insane, with their current offensive line issues. So many teams have terrible gm's that don't address the lines, then they just want to keep getting different quarterbacks. 

    Holmgren brought in the wrong coach with a goofy, non-west coast system, and already is getting a different offensive coordinator after one season.  Holmgren is showing he knows no better than anyone else.  If you get Griffin, you need a spread offense.  The Browns offense looked constipated, and certainly not spread-like..I'd fire Shurmur, but Holmgren won't do that, since he brought him in.. 


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