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Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

Posted on: January 22, 2012 6:40 pm
Edited on: January 22, 2012 7:18 pm
 
Brady owes his teammates a big hug after the AFC Championship Game. (AP)
By Will Brinson

In the weirdest twist of events imaginable, Joe Flacco was great against the Patriots, Tom Brady was terrible against the Ravens, and New England still found a way to win the AFC Championship Game 23-20 on Sunday.

Brady's final statline -- 22 of 36 for 239 yards, zero touchdowns and two interceptions -- is the opposite of what you'd expect in a Pats victory, and that New England still won despite Brady should be terrifying for the Ravens.

"Well, I sucked pretty bad today but our defense saved us," Brady told CBS Sports Jim Nantz after the game. "I'm going to try and go out and do a better job in a couple weeks."

Both the Giants and the 49ers represent a similar issue for the Patriots as the Ravens: talented, pass-rushing defenses that can stymie any offense.

But Brady's got two weeks to prepare, Rob Gronkowski's got two weeks to heal, and Bill Belichick's got two weeks to gameplan. That's why New England will be the favorite regardless of who comes to Indianapolis from the NFC end of things.


It's also a testament to what the Patriots do best, which is -- somehow -- find unlikely, creative ways to win. Sterling Moore, who was cut from the Raiders practice squad in September, made two of the biggest plays of the game, knocking a would-be, go-ahead touchdown pass from Lee Evans hands and swatting a pass on the next play that forced the missed Billy Cundiff field goal with 15 seconds left.

Vince Wilfork was a monster all day and Brandon Spikes, rounding into form after dealing with injuries all season, made a critical interception of Joe Flacco just when the Ravens were starting to roll.

No, the Patriots defense wasn't "great" or even "good," but they found a way to limit the Ravens rushing attack (Ray Rice had just 67 yards on 21 carries) and make plays when they needed to.

Sixty more minutes of that, and they could find themselves holding another Lombardi Trophy. And the next time around, there's a pretty good chance that they don't end up having to save bad Brady's bacon.

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Since: Jan 3, 2008
Posted on: January 22, 2012 9:36 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

You were doing okay until you threw Manning in that group.  Manning has always had good to very good receivers to work with and for most of his career a very good running back (Faulk and James.)  Brady has had to make do with people like Reche Caldwell, David Givens, Troy Brown (whom I adore for his contributions, but he was never an elite receiver.)  Even Deion Branch - how good was he away from NE?  Not good at all.  Outside of 1.5 years of Randy Moss who did Brady have?  Recently, yeah, he's gotten better targets but Brady gets more out of his receivers than anyone else could.   Brady's never had a RB able to make plays like either Faulk or James, though he did get one good year from Corey Dillon.

The D ... well, for the first two SB's it was statistically pretty average.  In '04 and '07 that changed, sure, but look it up.  The first SB D was average, at best.

Not gonna argue about Gisele, but I am going to say that Bridget is better looking. 
 



Since: Jan 5, 2012
Posted on: January 22, 2012 9:25 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

Brady has set the bar so high over the years that when he has an "off game", he is ripped beyond reason. He underthrew one pass by about a foot for one interception and had a long pass tipped and picked off on a great play by the Ravens D.  In addition, he was a touch off his normal precise self on several passes. On the other hand, he made many great throws in clutch situations, made 2 nice conversions ( one for a 4th down TD ) on QB sneaks,  and drove the Pats for the winning TD right after the Ravens had taken the lead and had momentum in the 4th quarter.  Of course he thought he sucked...because, for him..in his mind, he did suck. That's why he's an all-time great.

I'm a Redskins fan so I'm not exactly the Pats biggest fan. Still, the idea that Brady has been "lucky" the last decade and "isn't that good " is insane. The guy's record in the playoffs is 16-5, he holds many NFL records, multiple SB and league MVP awards, and has come through in the clutch more times than I can name. Like him, dislike him...whatever...to not recognize how great he has been throughout his career is ignoring the obvious.




Since: Jan 18, 2012
Posted on: January 22, 2012 9:16 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

Your a Cubs fan. Enough said.    Brady isGreatest QB in NFL history



Since: Jan 18, 2012
Posted on: January 22, 2012 9:13 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

Jazzy  who gives a sh%t about stats? seriously. the 1 and only goal is to get to the Super Bowl. Brady played great all year to get them to this point while the defense was sub par. Then when it mattered the defense stepped up in this game. Thats why its called a TEAM.   Plus  12 also scored the GM winning TD. I guess you forgot that.   Greatest QB of All Time.



Since: Jan 18, 2012
Posted on: January 22, 2012 9:13 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

Jazzy  who gives a sh%t about stats? seriously. the 1 and only goal is to get to the Super Bowl. Brady played great all year to get them to this point while the defense was sub par. Then when it mattered the defense stepped up in this game. Thats why its called a TEAM.   Plus  12 also scored the GM winning TD. I guess you forgot that.   Greatest QB of All Time.



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 9:08 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

I don't know where some of these so called wanta be sport analyst come up with some of their comments or cratics. Tom Brady is one Great QB. Is it the system? Maybe. All QB's in the league play at a high level that have been a system for at least 2 to 4 years. I am a Saints/Drew Brees fan, but I'm not to sure that Drew  Brees coulds go to another team with a different system and be able to play at the same level he is playiung now. Every Great QB has played for the same team for more than 2 years (at least 4 in most cases) Brady, P. Manning, Drew Brees have plaayed in the same system which I am sure they have had a hand in setting the system up. P. Rivers and T. Romeo have had plenty of chances, but seem to not be albe to quite make that big jump to Elite Now E. Manning, M. Stafford are coming into the same class. There are a few youn QB's comming up that have the same chance. I do think the system has something to do with being a Great QB, but it takes a Great QB to be able to take advantage of the system and make it work.





Since: Aug 31, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 9:01 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

@lakeville8....I'll give you a few points for logic, but thinking like yours is what makes me hate these debates about all-time greats.  First of all looking at Brady on his own merits, he was starting QB on 3 Super Bowl winners, but when they were winning Super Bowls he wasn't an all-time great QB.  In his last several seasons, he has played like an all-time great and they have not won any SB during that time.  To me that throws the whole argument of SB wins as a measure of QB greatness on its head.

Now we have a case where his team goes to the Super Bowl again, and despite the fact he threw two INTs and had two other INTs negated by penalty, this game will be used by many to bolster their argument that he is the greatest ever.  Also, with under 2:00 with the lead and the ball, his offense could not get a first down and put the game away.  The Ravens got the ball back and drove down the field, and now somehow Brady will get credit for the Raven receiver dropping (good defense though) the game winning pass as his second foot came down.  Brady will also get credit for the Raven kicker missing a 30ish yard field goal.

Now because the Pats win due to things out of Brady's control, people suddenly think he vaults over other QBs to become the greatest ever.  There would be all kinds of debates about how poorly Brady played today and how bad he has been in the playoffs the past several years.  INstead of talk about how he can't play in the clutch anymore, now they'll anoint him the best ever due to things outside of his control.

And lakeville8 I have nothing against you personally, I also wish people would remember Montana had 3 fumbles and 3 INTs the game they won with "the catch" when the 49ers made it to their first Super Bowl.  He had turned it over late in the game and seemingly had lost the game, except the Cowboys could not run out the clock.  Also, in the comeback against the Bengals, he threw a bad pass right into the chest of a bengal defender, but he didnt catch it.  Twice out of four Super Bowl winning  seasons he made horrible plays that should have ended the season in both cases, but do to things out of his control, he got a second chance in each case and made the most of it.

Stats are hard to compare the two with because the game is so different now.  For example, Joe Namath was a great quarterback, but back then they threw the ball well down the field, and with receivers allowed to be hit until the ball was thrown, naturally there were way more interceptions and a much lower completion percentage.  Once the 49ers implemented to 4 yard pass as part of a normal offense, completion percentage and QB rating skyrocketed.  It is tough to compare QBs of different eras, but as a pure winner, I'll take either Roger Staubach or John Elway over the stats guys.




Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 8:29 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

Hey moron Brady lover...He's never sniffed winning without a defense to win him a Super Bowl.  If you can rush 4, he is nothing more than average....and none of his 3 SB's were because of him....they were due to a very solid D.   Brady makes mistakes when you get pressure with 4...bring 5....he will slice and dice.  Simple as that.
You mean the "great" defenses that all gave up leads in the 2nd halves of every SB? Defenses that caused him to have to drive the field late in the 4th quarter to set up a winning score?

His defenses never "won" him a Super Bowl, they helped, of course, but they never straight out WON it, like the Ravens defense in 2001, and the Bears in 1986.

Try again, Brady Hater...






Since: Sep 10, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 8:26 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

Why is everyone so enamored with Tom Brady? Even when he has a terrible game he still is seen as being the best QB in the universe. THe guy is a product of the system. Take the system away and he's a loser!
Which system? He has been a part of 5 different offenses in his career, with 6 different OC's. Now tell me what "system" he is a product of?

Stop talking trash about subjects you are obviously ignorant on.









Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: January 22, 2012 8:24 pm
 

Patriots find way to win despite bad Brady effort

Hey moron Brady lover...He's never sniffed winning without a defense to win him a Super Bowl.  If you can rush 4, he is nothing more than average....and none of his 3 SB's were because of him....they were due to a very solid D.   Brady makes mistakes when you get pressure with 4...bring 5....he will slice and dice.  Simple as that. 


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