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Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

Posted on: January 28, 2012 6:23 pm
Edited on: January 28, 2012 6:32 pm
The Manning decision was reportedly made "weeks ago." (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

On Friday, Peyton Manning and Colts owner Jim Irsay released a joint statement that pointed out their desire to "dispel any misconceptions" about their relationship. It was meant to prove that, even if Manning's not staying in Indy, the two can co-exist with the Super Bowl in town.

The likelihood of Manning playing in Indy in 2012 seems slim, at best. According to Jason LaCanfora of the NFL Network, it's an absolute zero proposition, as the decision to cut bait on Manning next year was made "weeks ago."

"According to sources who were involved in the Colts’ GM search, the organization was planning to move on from Manning weeks ago, well before this public squabble between the quarterback and his owner," LaCanfora said Friday. "So Friday’s joint statement won’t be changing a thing."

Irsay said prior to hiring new GM Ryan Grigson that he (Irsay) would be the one making the decision on Manning, not the new general manager. It makes a lot of sense that he'd have a strong idea of what he'd do with Manning before hiring a GM though, because he'd want said GM to be on board with his decision.

And if Irsay made up his mind weeks ago, the public sniping and "campaigning" actually makes more sense. No offense to LaCanfora, but if he knows about Manning's imminent departure, there's a strong chance Peyton knows about it too.

Meaning: the Manning-Irsay exchanges aren't those of two people hoping to make up. They're the exchanges of two people who already know they've broken up and are just waiting to see which side their collective friends take.

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Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:11 pm

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

If Andrew Luck was not coming out in the draft there probably would be a commitment by the Colts to win another Super Bowl with Peyton Manning.  It's just a circumstance where the Colts have to look at the long term future of the franchise and the opportunity to get the best QB prospect in the draft since Peyton Manning.  If the Colts go this route then they owe it to Peyton to be up front with him and discuss a trade to a team of Peyton's choice that is contending now. 

Since: Oct 1, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 2:06 pm

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

Right now the Colts need to make a decision on what is best for the future of the franchise.  Draft Andrew Luck and start to build around him and the franchise will be solid for years.  Keep Peyton Manning and trade the #1 overall pick and make one last run at the Super Bowl but this is only possible if Manning is 100% healthy he did just sit out and entire season.  Keep Manning, draft Luck and use Peyton as a mentor for Luck and becuase of the amount of money allocated to Manning and Luck there isn't a whole lot left to invest long term into players which is the biggest risk position.  Right now I would say the only way of keeping Manning is if he renegotiates his pending $28 million dollar bonus.  He just got paid an entire year and never played a down so it shouldn't be too much to ask and if Peyton cannot compromise than the Colts have to think about the Colts and the future of the franchise.

Since: Apr 4, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 11:48 am

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

Here is the reason why I think the Cowboys might want to replace Romo with Manning (besides the aforementioned reasons). Romo and the Cowboys lost 4 or 5 leads in the fourth quarter this year. They were one win from the playoffs. Romo, to my recollection, has exactly one playoff win. Romo has brought them to the point of "playoff contender" each year. In Jerry Jones' eyes, Manning would be the difference. Romo is paid a large sum of money. Replace his large sum with a slightly larger sum and perhaps even trade Romo if his contract will allow. I just know that we have not heard much from Jerry Jones lately except for his wonderful stadium. His ego is in need of some drama. Manning to Dallas would supply that drama. Can't you picture JJ and Peyton shaking hands at the podium and Peyton in a Cowboy uniform (fairly close in color to Colts)?

Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:58 am

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

None of this is a surprise.  28 million to watch is too steep to pay.  The real issue is the lack of class by Irsay during this ordeal.  Peyton IS Colts football.  Without Peyton, this franchise would have been a joke, gotten no Superbowl and Irsay owed Peyton some measure of gratitude for these facts.  How did he show his thanks?  Irsay told his boyfriend, Rob Lowe, about the plan to part ways.  Lowe tweets about Peyton, and Peyton is pissed (rightfully so) about it.  Peyton makes a truthful comment about low morale, and Irsay calls him a "politician." Irsay should be glad Peyton didn't call him a moron.  I will say it for Peyton... Irsay is a moron.     

Since: Mar 28, 2011
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:57 am

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

Oh there are teams my friend. The 2010 Miami Heat. The 2007 Boston Celtics. NY Yankees every year. But they were all arguably decent teams. Irsay will be hated because he's got no loyalty or respect. Clearly

Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:56 am

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

good article. and yes it makes sense that this decision was made weeks ago while hiring a GM. who would consider accepting the GM job without knowing the fate of the current franchise player.

peyton manning is done. all you have to do is google 'cooper manning neck injury' to get the family medical history on neck/spine/nerve conditions. who is cooper manning? the eldest brother who was forced to retire from football (in college) due to a similar degenerative nerve condition.

it was a calculated risk on archie & peyton's part. they knew about this condition in 2010. unfortunately, they misled the colts during contract negotiations last year. and the colts blew up when peyton decided at the last minute to have his 3rd neck surgery once the 2nd surgery and 'alternative' methods (multiple trips to europe) failed.

IMO the colts doing the right thing. remember, peyton still can't pass a physical and the colts already paid him $20MIL last year for misleading them and not being productive. that just don't fly in today's NFL- a multi-billion dollar business. it happened to kurt warner, donovan mcnabb and countless others before peyton. it's just a business.

so, the colts will attempt to coax peyton to retire a colt & take a position in the front office. and the wild card in all this is archie. what does archie tell peyton to do? don't underestimate papa archie's meddling influence, it's been going on since the boy's high school days, when archie dictated and negotiated their college choices within the SEC.

my guess is that peyton will follow the path of his predecessors. he will try and sell a team on his ability to play productive football for another 2-3 years. a smart GM/owner will go back and watch some of the game films of the final few games in 2010. Peyton making more than a few weak passes vs. SD, Oakland and Jets (playoffs.) His confidence especially took a nose dive. Even the butt kissing commentator Cris Collinsworth made reference to Peyton chucking & ducking in the face of pressure vs. SD.

Which franchise will over pay for damaged goods? Maybe no one if Peyton cannot pass a physical. But if he can convince someone to "take a chance" on him, it will most likely be the Redskins (desperate owner) or Dolphins (ticket sales.) Dark horse teams would be the Jets (a decent QB = SB?) or Cardinals (ala for Kurt Warner.)

Good "Luck" to the Colts. They will suffer through a couple years of growing pains, just like when the Colts selected Peyton. But long term the franchise will be in good shape. With the new rules in the NFL, young QB's (dalton, newton) can come in an be successful year 1. It isn't the same NFL that it was even 5 yrs. ago.

Final analysis: the Colts will cut Peyton right at the March deadline, draft Luck or deal the #1 pick and try to pick up a boat load of picks (including a QB) or a couple big name free agents to help rebuild a weak lineup with a lot of holes.

Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:54 am

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

 This is how you treat the guy that has made your team and city relevant for the last decade? As hard as it is to say, I hope that the Colts fail for years because of the way that this was handeled.
 Stay classy Irsay. Ungrateful chump.

Since: Mar 13, 2011
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:53 am

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

Manning had a great carreer in Indy and he was greaty compensated. Being a huge Packers fan I'm familiar with the situation. It is in the best interest of the Colts to turn him loose and buld for the future. What if GB had allowed Favre to return and now we have no Rodgers? REAL fans are loyal first to the helmet, not the player!

Since: Jan 10, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:47 am

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

The real question: Can Peyton Manning even play?  If so, how effectively?  And is he one good hit away from retirement?  It sure seems like the Colts are not willing to find out, given the steep price tag.  

After Peyton pocketedover 26M this year rehabbing, if you were Irsay would you throw another 28M at him?  You had better know beyond a shawdow of a doubt that he can play.  And if he can, would he be gracious enough to renegotiate his deal to make room for Andrew Luck and mentoring?  After all, Peyton just picked Irsay's pocket for 26M.  The loyalty business works both ways.

Could it be that the Colts doubt Peyton can play at a high level for long?  Whoever gambles on Peyton might very well have an aging Farve on their hands, and seriously, who wants that?  Is it worth it?  We will find out what teams think it is.    

Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:40 am

Report: Colts made Manning decision 'weeks ago'

Wow. I pound on the McCaskeys all the time (owners of the Bears) and even they wouldn't do this. All that Manning has done for the Colts and the city and this is how he's treated? Cut loose in favor of a guy that was pretty good in the Pac 10? Well, wherever he goes, he's going to ram it up Irsay's silly ass every chance he gets. And what really bothers me is that Irsay seems to be enjoying this. I think he blames Manning for getting injured. It's as if he doesn't know that the horseshoe he keeps yammering about only exists because of Peyton Manning. The stadium, the Super Bowl win, hosting the Super Bowl, the decade of dominance, the fact that the team is still in Indy in the first place..that all is because of Peyton Manning.

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