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Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:59 am
Edited on: January 29, 2012 10:59 am
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Irsay denies he's already made a decision on Manning. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

On Saturday we brought you the report that a decision on Peyton Manning's future was made "weeks ago," and that Jim Irsay and the Colts were prepared to move on without No. 18 before they ever hired Ryan Grigson as the team's general manager.

That news spread like wildfire and eventually made its way into Irsay's ears, which means that his opinion made its way onto his Twitter feed.

"No he hasn't been released nor was a decision reached weeks ago," Irsay tweeted on Friday night.


Of course Manning hasn't been released: Manning wouldn't be talking about himself as the Colts quarterback if he'd been released. And he'd probably already be negotiating with other teams.

And perhaps a decision, in the official sense of the word, hasn't been reached yet. Irsay has until March 8 to make a final call on Manning and jumping the gun on his final decision wouldn't be prudent, particularly considering that Manning could make progress, physically, over the next month or so.

Neither would admitting that Manning's done in Indy immediately before the entire world turns its collective football-watching eyes onto the Colts hometown for the next week plus.

And maybe Irsay's simply leaning strongly one way and giving himself the option to flip-flop as the deadline nears.

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Since: Sep 11, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 7:34 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

 It is real simple folks, Manning "HAS" to give up the bulk of that 28 million or his but hits the pavement. No matter what he has done in the past there is no way he deserves the 28 mil if he can play or not. The fault does not lie with anyone because neither side could count on his neck doing what doctors said it was supposed to do. The Colts offered him this contract in good faith based on his neck healing properly. It has not healed and cost the Colts an entire season with Peyton at the helm which would have meant the Colts in the playoffs. The Colts owe him something just not 28 million. One thing this year has proven is that Peyton Manning has been the MVP every year in this league because no team suffers that much without 1 player. Indy, I ask this of you. If Peyton retires give him the 28 million and the offensive coordinator position on this team.  You win on many many levels. Peyton teaches Luck, you have an OC that knows this offense in and out and calls great games too! Come on Indy you can not lose with that deal. Peyton, if it is time just let it go. Its been great watching your career at Tennessee and Indianapolis. I hope that you won't ruin it by moving on to another team and doing a Bernie. You can't be a De Loser because De Loser never really had any talent. Right Jake! Now there is someone who robbed a team.


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Since: Jan 21, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 7:07 pm
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Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:43 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

I am not sure which is worse ... the way Irsay dresses or the fact that Irsay thinks we are stupid enough to believe him when he claims he hasn't made a decision regarding Peyton Manning and the Indianapolis Colts.

I disagree with Irsay's decision (although he has claimed he has not made one).  Manning is a hall of fame QB.  Luck is an unproven rookie whom has never taken a snap in the NFL.  Cutting Manning to save the $28 million is a mistake.  Does anyone with any real football knowledge think Luck will suddenly turn a 2-14 team into a competitor?  The Colts will be irrelevant for several, if not many, years.

It would have been MUCH smarter to finish Peyton's career at Indy, have him mentor Luck, and keep the seats full.  Instead, the owner with the ugly suits and ties has chosen a path that leads to losses and empty seats.

Bad Call!!!



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:08 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Lets be honest about this. Manning isn't going anywhere. That would be the worst thing the colts would do. As for Andrew luck. He doesn't impress me at all. If he goes number one, he will be traded or kept, but I say the  quarterback that will come out of the draft will not be in the first 2 rounds

You sir are dillusional to say the least.  First of all get this straight, Andrew Luck is going number 1 overall, there isn't a chance in hell he doesn't go number 1.  Is he going to do as well as expected?  Nobody can say for sure but it doesn't matter because the hype is enough for not ony Luck to go number 1 overall but for a half dozen teams to be begging the Colts to trade him.   I'm shocked so many people think Manning and Luck will end up playing for the Colts next year... it's near IMPOSSIBLE yet people keep telling themselves it's going to happen.  Crazy.......



Since: Jan 14, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 6:01 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Lets be honest about this. Manning isn't going anywhere. That would be the worst thing the colts would do. As for Andrew luck. He doesn't impress me at all. If he goes number one, he will be traded or kept, but I say the best quarterback that will come out of the draft will not be in the first 2 rounds. Like history has proven time and time again. Not every number 1 draft  quarterback will be good.
Don't give me the hoopla about cam newton. This guy will disappear in a couple of years because the panthers haven't done anything. So keep bad mouthing the colts because they had one bad season for the first time in ten years. You can't say that about every other team. I'm a pats fan that lives in Indiana and makes me sick that all of these so called die hard colts fans were bailing on their team so fast. You not a fan your a joke and a bandwagon. If you wanna band wagon go jump on the Tim Tebow wagon. That guy needs all the support he needs right now since he needs to figure what position he should play next year



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:16 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Another scenario that really hasn't been spoken about is: what if Peyton WANTS to stay there & agrees to a smaller bonus?  He's always been a standup guy & didn't "earn" it this year, so pending any specific contract details, I suppose that is a possibility isnt it?   Would the Colts agree to that possibility?   Seems to me it could be in the best interest of both sides if he is healthy enough to play another couple years while they groom Andrew Luck.    If health is really still an issue, I see him retiring because nobody is going to pick him up at that salary & wait around in the current NFL  climate.

In a perfect world what you're suggesting would be a possibility, but there is something I mentioned in my other post that you're forgetting.  Why would Andrew Luck have any interest in backing up Manning for at least 2 years, if not until Manning's current contract expires?  There are plenty of teams in desperate need for a qb that Luck could start for from day 1, and I'm willing to bet a lot of money that's going to happen.  I highly doubt Luck will agree to sign a deal with the Colts if it means watching Manning play football.

Indi is no longer an up and coming team, they are a team in rebuild or re-tool mode, Luck and everybody else knows this.  He doesn't need to be groomed by Peyton Manning, he could start immediately for many teams and still be tutored by a backup veteran qb that knows the game.  Just because Peyton Manning is one of the best qb's ever doesn't automatically mean he's the best teacher out there.  Peyton doesn't know more about the game of football then almost any other NFL veteran qb on other teams, he's just a lot more talented then almost everybody else and puts up better numbers.

There are coaches and trainors all over the world in every sport you can think of that train supertar athletes on a daily basis.  Some great coaches and trainors have never succeeded playing the game they are coaching players in, but they know the game, know how to coach and know right from wrong.

Luck isn't necessarily going to be a better qb backing up Manning then he would be if he started for another team and was mentored by another veteran qb.....  there is no way in hell I see both Manning and Luck on the same team...... 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:02 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Yeah, go ahead and cut Peyton,,, can't wait to see your record the next few years and watch the empty seats increase.  Oh, Irsay, can't fool me, sound just a  stupid politician.... not to mention our president.

Only a stupid Colts fan or somebody that was never a real Colts fan would stop going to games because Peyton Manning isn't on the team anymore.  And if that's really the case, if attendance is going to drop that much then maybe Indi doesn't need an NFL team, maybe it's time they move the team somewhere else.

Peyton Manning is an awesome quarterback, one of the best to ever play the game of football.  And he's a class act as well on and off the field so nothing I'm saying is a knock against Manning.  Only a fool would insult Peyton Manning.

BUT, the Colts are going into re-build mode now or at least re-tool mode.  They have a chance to pick up Andrew Luck who is said to be a once in a decade draftee.  The Colts can't draft luck and keep Manning, it just doesn't work that way.  Manning is due 28 million dollars in an option bonus and I believe another 7 million or so in salary for the 2012 season.  I believe Luck would be somewhere the 6 million dollar range so that would mean two quarterbacks are being paid 40 million dollars for the 2012 NFL season.  I know to some of you this is monopoly money, you don't care how Irsay finds the money, where it comes from or if it even makes any sense at all. But Irsay isn't an idiot, he knows what he has to do.  He either has to cut Peyton or find a team willing to make a trade very soon that'll agree to pick up his contract as it's written today.  The only other option is to keep Manning and trade the Andrew Luck draft pick...Thats it.  Peyton Manning will not start at qb this year for the Colts if Luck is going to be on the team.  And I guarantee you Luck has no interest in signing with the Colts if it means he has to back up Manning for the next 2 to 3 seasons.  There are way too many teams that need starting qb's today for Luck to be willing to sit on the bench with a clipboard in his hand.

Anybody foolish enough to think Manning and Luck will both be Colts this year is losing his or her mind. 



Since: Sep 25, 2011
Posted on: January 29, 2012 5:00 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Another scenario that really hasn't been spoken about is: what if Peyton WANTS to stay there & agrees to a smaller bonus?  He's always been a standup guy & didn't "earn" it this year, so pending any specific contract details, I suppose that is a possibility isnt it?   Would the Colts agree to that possibility?   Seems to me it could be in the best interest of both sides if he is healthy enough to play another couple years while they groom Andrew Luck.    If health is really still an issue, I see him retiring because nobody is going to pick him up at that salary & wait around in the current NFL business climate.
I don't necessarily think that the Colts have made any concrete decision at all nor is there any real friction between Peyton & the Colts mgt, he's too classy for that & it doesn't help the situation.  In all likelihood, this goes right down to Feb 28th or so before anything really occurs.



Since: Dec 7, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:41 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

"No he hasn't been released nor was a decision reached weeks ago," .
By adding 'weeks ago' to his answer, Irsay implies that a decision has been reached more recently than that, meaning they have decided.  If Peyton's contract says he'll be due $20M+ for staying, at what point does Indy need to entice him to leave before they have to pony-up that dough?  That's how long we can expect this soap opera to last.






Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 4:33 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Hate to say it, but the Colts already hit Hell in the Handbasket this year.  Unavoidable, but they are there.  Without Peyton, they are a 5 win team for the next few years.    


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