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Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:59 am
Edited on: January 29, 2012 10:59 am
 
Irsay denies he's already made a decision on Manning. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

On Saturday we brought you the report that a decision on Peyton Manning's future was made "weeks ago," and that Jim Irsay and the Colts were prepared to move on without No. 18 before they ever hired Ryan Grigson as the team's general manager.

That news spread like wildfire and eventually made its way into Irsay's ears, which means that his opinion made its way onto his Twitter feed.

"No he hasn't been released nor was a decision reached weeks ago," Irsay tweeted on Friday night.


Of course Manning hasn't been released: Manning wouldn't be talking about himself as the Colts quarterback if he'd been released. And he'd probably already be negotiating with other teams.

And perhaps a decision, in the official sense of the word, hasn't been reached yet. Irsay has until March 8 to make a final call on Manning and jumping the gun on his final decision wouldn't be prudent, particularly considering that Manning could make progress, physically, over the next month or so.

Neither would admitting that Manning's done in Indy immediately before the entire world turns its collective football-watching eyes onto the Colts hometown for the next week plus.

And maybe Irsay's simply leaning strongly one way and giving himself the option to flip-flop as the deadline nears.

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Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:56 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Irsay should try to focus on running this team in a functional way, and get off the twitter feed!  Oh- and he should quit telling Rob Lowe information as well!!
I don't see that Irsay would get of Twitter any time soon, to me it look like Irsay is trying not to upset Manning or Manning family till he go ahead with the decision he made. It really don't matter when the decision was made, all the matter is manning going be on the Colts or not.  In my opinion I believe that Manning would be traded or released before the draft, there a small chance that he still be a Colt. But only after it look like Manning could play again, I figure that Irsay will know by April what is Manning progress toward playing next season.








Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:51 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

 and peyton doesn't have to turn over that confidential (HIPAA federal privacy act) info
Actually he almost certainly did have to turn over all information regarding his doctor visits.  It's my understanding that in the NFL (and probably most professional sports) that standard contract language includes waiving HIPAA rights with respect to team access to any and all medical information on the part of the signee.  The waiver is a requirement (and generally supported by the union as well) because it prevents teams from unknowingly endangering players.

And the reason they approved of his seeking out so many additional opinions/treatment options is that the team/local doctors had said he'd be fine by mini camps.. and then by training camp.  When it became clear that they were far from correct, the team brass had no problems with him seeking other options:  anything to try and fix the problem and get him back on the field.  He didn't go outside of the organization for the stem-cell work and outside opinions until after it became clear that he wouldn't be ready for the start of training camp.  They had every reason to approve of it at that point.

Having said all of that, I am still not convinced that Manning will ever play again.  I think this injury is a whole lot worse than people are willing to admit on any side of the issue.  I know he's dying for one more ring, but I don't know if he's going to be able to do it (health-wise).



Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:47 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Everyone knows Payton had some very good years at Indy and had turned around the Colts into a awesome team. Thats a fact... Yes we all would like to wish that he will fully recover from his latest injury and be able to preform like the old... That again is a fact...  Lets just say he does come back and play and Irsay pays him his roster bonus of $28 million, lets be honest he will never play like he did and quite frankly he is taking a risk by even getting on the field ever again. It's time for a change and what a change they are doing with management... and will finish the makeover with a new quarterback at the rlem. Time to move on people, get in with the new. Isray, you know what you are doing....  Finish the task and play some football! 




Since: Feb 5, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:46 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Not much of a vote of confidence for Manning.  Irsay really owes Peyton a lot more than this.....



Since: Jan 9, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:45 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Everyone knows Payton had some very good years at Indy and had turned around the Colts into a awesome team. Thats a fact... Yes we all would like to wish that he will fully recover from his latest injury and be able to preform like the old... That again is a fact...  Lets just say he does come back and play and Irsay pays him his roster bonus of $28 million, lets be honest he will never play like he did and quite frankly he is taking a risk by even getting on the field ever again. It's time for a change and what a change they are doing with management... and will finish the makeover with a new quarterback at the rlem. Time to move on people, get in with the new. Isray, you know what you are doing....  Finish the task and play some football! 




Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:40 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

It must really suck to be Irsay right now...what a dilemna! Should I pay the $28 million for someone that may never take a snap or cut a QB that could take all but about six teams with their current rosters all the way to a Super Bowl? Throw in the fact that that team could be the Colts. Factor in also how much he probably should pay him anyway for what he did for Irsay's franchise; he took them to one championship, two title games, and a dozen or so playoff games that kept every game in Indy sold out. What if he cuts him and a divisional rival picks him up & he comes into Lucas Oil Stadium and he blisters the Colts out of their minds and the Indy fans cheer, then proceeds to carry his team into the playoffs. At that point, it might be time to pack the vans up again. Good luck Jim (you slug), right now I am so glad I'm not you.



Since: Mar 17, 2008
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:39 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

indy is never going to be anywhere near the same as it was for peyton, new coaches, new gm, new players...i would hope he decides to go somewhere he is wanted and put in 2 or 3 more good years...redskins?....more like montana with the chiefs, not like favre with the jets, vikings and rumors about almost every team.



Since: Jan 1, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:19 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Peel away the layers of the ongoing Peyton Manning-Indianapolis Colts drama, and you get more layers. After  between Manning and team owner Jim Irsay, and the alleged reconciliation/resolution, it seemed that we were back to watching and waiting to see whether Manning's neck and nerve injuries would heal in time for Irsay to decide whether to pick up the quarterback's $28 million roster bonus on March 8, and make him the face of the team's rebuild.

At least, that's what we thought. We may have been wrong, and the decision may have already been made. According to Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network, this is a done deal — and Manning will indeed be playing somewhere else if he ever plays again.

"According to sources who were involved in the Colts' GM search, the organization was planning to move on from Manning weeks ago, well before this public squabble between the quarterback and his owner,"  on the NFL Network's Friday afternoon "Total Access" show.

La Canfora also said that the decision will almost certainly be made before the 2012 scouting combine in late February. Like the Super Bowl, the combine will be held at Indianapolis' Lucas Oil Stadium. Basically, Indianapolis will be the center of the NFL universe for at least the next month.

As is his custom,  to refute the report.

We'll see. The changes continue to roll in Indy — the most recent coaching move Irsay made was to hire former Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians to do the same job for him and new head coach Chuck Pagano. Potential free agents and former franchise cornerstones Robert Mathis, Jeff Saturday, and Reggie Wayne might be finding new homes, and the Colts are clearly ramping up for a major construction project.

Wayne that he's in the dark about the team's plans - just like most everyone else.

"I have no clue, man. I'm leaning on you guys (the media). You're all saying it's a new regime and that's what it is. This is one time all of the players are outside of the loop, even 18 (quarterback Peyton Manning). Nobody has a clue."

"It's like a soap opera. You're wondering, 'OK, what's next?' You hear something, then you see it on the ticker, that the Colts are doing this or that. At one point we were thinking Jim Tressel was going to be the coach. All of a sudden it's Chuck Pagano."

No matter how Irsay's handled this, that's the one thing he's right about — the last five years of questionable drafts and free agent moves under Bill and Chris Polian have left the Colts in a state of extreme disrepair. And it doesn't make a lot of sense to have two expensive quarterbacks on that roster, as the Colts would if they kept Manning and drafted Andrew Luck with the first overall pick. Which they almost certainly will do.

At the same time, Irsay doesn't want to be known as the man who ran the most important player in the history of the Colts' time in Indianapolis out the door with half a thought in mind.

The reckoning is coming soon, and it looks more and more like the new Colts will be without Peyton Manning when they start the 2012 season.




Since: Jan 1, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 1:19 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Peel away the layers of the ongoing Peyton Manning-Indianapolis Colts drama, and you get more layers. After  between Manning and team owner Jim Irsay, and the alleged reconciliation/resolution, it seemed that we were back to watching and waiting to see whether Manning's neck and nerve injuries would heal in time for Irsay to decide whether to pick up the quarterback's $28 million roster bonus on March 8, and make him the face of the team's rebuild.

At least, that's what we thought. We may have been wrong, and the decision may have already been made. According to Jason La Canfora of the NFL Network, this is a done deal — and Manning will indeed be playing somewhere else if he ever plays again.

"According to sources who were involved in the Colts' GM search, the organization was planning to move on from Manning weeks ago, well before this public squabble between the quarterback and his owner,"  on the NFL Network's Friday afternoon "Total Access" show.

La Canfora also said that the decision will almost certainly be made before the 2012 scouting combine in late February. Like the Super Bowl, the combine will be held at Indianapolis' Lucas Oil Stadium. Basically, Indianapolis will be the center of the NFL universe for at least the next month.

As is his custom,  to refute the report.

We'll see. The changes continue to roll in Indy — the most recent coaching move Irsay made was to hire former Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator Bruce Arians to do the same job for him and new head coach Chuck Pagano. Potential free agents and former franchise cornerstones Robert Mathis, Jeff Saturday, and Reggie Wayne might be finding new homes, and the Colts are clearly ramping up for a major construction project.

Wayne that he's in the dark about the team's plans - just like most everyone else.

"I have no clue, man. I'm leaning on you guys (the media). You're all saying it's a new regime and that's what it is. This is one time all of the players are outside of the loop, even 18 (quarterback Peyton Manning). Nobody has a clue."

"It's like a soap opera. You're wondering, 'OK, what's next?' You hear something, then you see it on the ticker, that the Colts are doing this or that. At one point we were thinking Jim Tressel was going to be the coach. All of a sudden it's Chuck Pagano."

No matter how Irsay's handled this, that's the one thing he's right about — the last five years of questionable drafts and free agent moves under Bill and Chris Polian have left the Colts in a state of extreme disrepair. And it doesn't make a lot of sense to have two expensive quarterbacks on that roster, as the Colts would if they kept Manning and drafted Andrew Luck with the first overall pick. Which they almost certainly will do.

At the same time, Irsay doesn't want to be known as the man who ran the most important player in the history of the Colts' time in Indianapolis out the door with half a thought in mind.

The reckoning is coming soon, and it looks more and more like the new Colts will be without Peyton Manning when they start the 2012 season.




Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 12:23 pm
 

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Agreed.  Irsay should try to focus on running this team in a functional way, and get off the twiiter feed!  Oh- and he should quit telling Rob Lowe information as well!!


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