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Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Posted on: January 29, 2012 10:59 am
Edited on: January 29, 2012 10:59 am
Irsay denies he's already made a decision on Manning. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

On Saturday we brought you the report that a decision on Peyton Manning's future was made "weeks ago," and that Jim Irsay and the Colts were prepared to move on without No. 18 before they ever hired Ryan Grigson as the team's general manager.

That news spread like wildfire and eventually made its way into Irsay's ears, which means that his opinion made its way onto his Twitter feed.

"No he hasn't been released nor was a decision reached weeks ago," Irsay tweeted on Friday night.

Of course Manning hasn't been released: Manning wouldn't be talking about himself as the Colts quarterback if he'd been released. And he'd probably already be negotiating with other teams.

And perhaps a decision, in the official sense of the word, hasn't been reached yet. Irsay has until March 8 to make a final call on Manning and jumping the gun on his final decision wouldn't be prudent, particularly considering that Manning could make progress, physically, over the next month or so.

Neither would admitting that Manning's done in Indy immediately before the entire world turns its collective football-watching eyes onto the Colts hometown for the next week plus.

And maybe Irsay's simply leaning strongly one way and giving himself the option to flip-flop as the deadline nears.

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Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: January 29, 2012 12:20 pm

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

This guy really should get off twitter. Very few people are actually mature enough to handle all that contact with the public. Irsay clearly is not one of those people. Either is Mitt Romney actually. Or Newt Gingrich. While it is entertaining to watch these people bungle around while bragging how they're better than us because they're richer than us (and worked oh so much harder than us for that money, as they tell us) in the sports world there's usually a very strong backlash against rampant idiocy. Rush Limbaugh learned this first hand and then went running back to the safety of political talk, where the listeners are braindead and will accept anything you tell them with short term memory that allows them to ignore contradictions.

Irsay, you have a marketing/PR department. Use one of them. Do not communicate directly with people.

Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 12:01 pm

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

By the way, Cooper's condition was WELL KNOWN since the late early 90's.  The Colts knew about it, and drafted Peyton (who was tested many years ago for the condition along with Eli).  It worked out pretty good up to this point.  The NFL is a business, and teams do their due diligence before selecting a player.  The Colts got many great years out of Peyton, knowing the entire time about his family history.  Put your "scam" theory to bed, ELConquistador.

Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: January 29, 2012 11:56 am

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

El Conquistador, nobody scammed anyone.  This is simply a case of a guy who is dying to play football, who due to injury cannot right now.  If you really think Peyton hid his injuries from the Colts, then you don't know anything about the NFL and its business dealings.  Not to mention, you know ZERO about Peyton Manning and his core values and beliefs.  IF he ever plays again, we are all lucky to see an all-time great once again.  If not, he gave evrything he had for years, and we should appreciate that.  Peyton Manning was and still is dying to play football again.  He will make an informed decision with doctors and ultimately play or retire.  Do not say he scammed the Colts.  That is stupid.

Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: January 29, 2012 11:52 am

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Wo, El Conquistador, I didn't know as much about the family history as you presented--and older brother Cooper's fusion surgery is especially telling.  But in light of the mid-2000s publicity Cooper got, the Colts HAD to be aware of possible genetic repercussions for Peyton.  And if so, they may be late to the party, but yes, you'd HAVE to believe that Irsay won't take a "Cooper-like" chance on a mid-30s quarterback with a startlingly similar condition--after years in the pros.  If there's even the slightest similarity in Peyton's neck to Cooper's, it's way time to retire a hero, spend time with the wife and kids, and welcome millions in TV commentary and endorsements. 

This all begs serious questons: Where have the media been with more publicity on big brother's neck?  (Is this like Tiger, where no one wanted to bite the hand that feeds them?)  And is there any other family history of this nature?  Cooper didn't get it from football, and though football couldn't have helped Petyon, it's hard to bet against heredity. 

Great post, El C.

Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 11:46 am

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

if you think peyton didn't get a 2nd, 3rd and 4th opinion outside the colts medical staff, you have your head up your a$$. you think the colts "approved" of peyton flying all over the world getting stem cell therapy, etc.,? and peyton doesn't have to turn over that confidential (HIPAA federal privacy act) info. unless he wanted to, which he didn't until he collected that $20MIL check. remember, the colts thought peyton was playing last year, right up until the time he had the 3rd surgery. peyton & archie scammed the colts.

Since: Sep 2, 2006
Posted on: January 29, 2012 11:33 am

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

If you think the Colts didn't do their due diligence on Peyton's neck prior to his contract extension, you're crazy.  And if they didn't, they have no one to blame but themselves.  They have access to any medical reports they need and any tests that they wanted on his neck.  Don't go claiming that Manning "misled" the Colts.  If that's how you feel, blame the Colts for not doing their job before signing Manning (which I don't believe is what happened anyways) or blame the lockout for keeping Manning from getting access to his usual trainers during his rehab over the summer.

Since: Aug 1, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 11:19 am

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

Common sense tells you that it will be almost impossible to rebuild a Colts team with $28m sitting ona guy who may not play again and has a few more years left. I'd like to think that Manning would rework his contract to help the Colts out but I don't see that happening, and if he doesn't I think he's gone.

Maybe the decision has not been made, but I think it's more about making Manning affordable than holding on to him at all costs. It's a shame in all the arguing about caps, free agency and benefits, no one thought to include a "loyalty" provision where a team could keep a guy for his entire career, pay him and not get screwed in the end.

Still as long as the owners and players make money, I guess loyalty and the fans really doesn't matter that much.

Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: January 29, 2012 11:13 am

Irsay denies Manning decision was made weeks ago

peyton manning is done. all you have to do is google 'cooper manning neck injury' to get the family medical history on neck/spine/nerve conditions. who is cooper manning? the eldest brother who was forced to retire from football (in college) due to a similar degenerative nerve condition.

it was a calculated risk on archie & peyton's part. they knew about this condition in 2010. unfortunately, they misled the colts during contract negotiations last year. and the colts blew up when peyton decided at the last minute to have his 3rd neck surgery once the 2nd surgery and 'alternative' methods (multiple trips to europe) failed.

IMO the colts doing the right thing. remember, peyton still can't pass a physical and the colts already paid him $20MIL last year for misleading them and not being productive. that just don't fly in today's NFL- a multi-billion dollar business. it happened to kurt warner, donovan mcnabb and countless others before peyton. it's just a business.

so, the colts will attempt to coax peyton to retire a colt & take a position in the front office. and the wild card in all this is archie. what does archie tell peyton to do? don't underestimate papa archie's meddling influence, it's been going on since the boy's high school days, when archie dictated and negotiated their college choices within the SEC.

my guess is that peyton will follow the path of his predecessors. he will try and sell a team on his ability to play productive football for another 2-3 years. a smart GM/owner will go back and watch some of the game films of the final few games in 2010. Peyton making more than a few weak passes vs. SD, Oakland and Jets (playoffs.) His confidence especially took a nose dive. Even the butt kissing commentator Cris Collinsworth made reference to Peyton chucking & ducking in the face of pressure vs. SD.

Which franchise will over pay for damaged goods? Maybe no one if Peyton cannot pass a physical. But if he can convince someone to "take a chance" on him, it will most likely be the Redskins (desperate owner) or Dolphins (ticket sales.) Dark horse teams would be the Jets (a decent QB = SB?) or Cardinals (ala Kurt Warner.)

Good "Luck" to the Colts. They will suffer through a couple years of growing pains, just like when the Colts selected Peyton. But long term the franchise will be in good shape. With the new rules in the NFL, young QB's (dalton, newton) can come in an be successful year 1. It isn't the same NFL that it was even 5 yrs. ago.

Final analysis: the Colts will cut Peyton right at the March deadline, draft Luck or deal the #1 pick and try to pick up a boat load of picks (including a QB) or a couple big name free agents to help rebuild a weak lineup with a lot of holes

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