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Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

Posted on: February 6, 2012 9:51 am
Edited on: February 7, 2012 6:25 am
 
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By Josh Katzowitz

INDIANAPOLIS -- Bill Belichick was strangely happy all week. Until, that is, the Giants beat the Patriots 21-17 in Super Bowl XLVI and Belichick blew off a postgame interview with NBC and gave clipped comments to the assembled media in the presser following the game.

But Tom Coughlin never changed this week. He talked about the team, eschewing questions about his legacy or about his future as an NFL coach, and during his Monday morning press conference, after a night of spending time with friends and family where there was plenty of “banter” and only 15 minutes of sleep, Coughlin’s answers were consistent. He stayed solid.

Now that you’ve won two Super Bowls, he was asked, can you discuss your legacy and what this win means to the way people see your coaching career?

“No, I’m not really into that stuff,” Coughlin said. “It’s not about me. That’s what we talk about all the time. We’re not about individuals. We’re about what’s in the best interest of our team. All our power is generated from our team. We’re cognizant of some of the superior individuals we have on our team, but it is the team that provides us with the strength and the ability to perform under pressure.”

Giants 21, Patriots 17
Another reporter tried a different tact. Now that you’re 5-1 against Bill Belichick, Coughlin’s old buddy, Florida Times-Union writer Vito Stellino began, and 2-0 vs. him in the Super Bowl, can people say that you’re a better coach than your former colleague?

“There you go,” Coughlin said with a smile. “I’m just trying to do my job the best I can possibly do, thank you very much.”

One last attempt: you’re going to be back next season, right?

“I certainly hope so,” said Coughlin, ever humble. “My intentions are for it to be that way. I do have some ownership that has to give approval. But I’m looking forward to it.”

Yes, I’m sure the Maras will need to be convinced that Coughlin should be brought back next year. But aside from Coughlin’s legacy -- assuming Bill Parcells gets into the Hall of Fame at some point, doesn’t Coughlin, who now has as many Super Bowl titles as Parcells, deserve the same consideration? -- how will history look back on Eli Manning?

After his Super Bowl MVP performance (30 of 40, 296 yards, a touchdown) that garnered him his second Super Bowl title, Manning was asked the last time he had bragging rights over his brother Peyton Manning -- who, sadly, only has one Super Bowl ring.

“This isn’t about bragging rights,” Eli said. “This is a lot bigger. This is about a team and organization being named world champions, a team finding a way to get a victory. That’s the only thing I care about. Peyton and I know that’s the goal every year.”

And as to the question about Eli Manning’s status as an elite quarterback?

“This business about being an elite quarterback,” Coughlin said, “that’s come and gone. I don’t think we’ll hear much about that anymore.”

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Since: Jan 7, 2012
Posted on: January 8, 2013 12:24 am
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

CLASS ACT????   WHAT A JOKE!



Since: Jan 18, 2012
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:00 am
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

Romo 73
Great posts guys...I was starting to think that I (along with my friends) was in the minority as someone who loves Tom Coughlin.  The guy is a class act as is Mr. Reese.  I think there are always going to be those loser fans that freak out and hit panic button when something goes wrong.  In fact Mr. Mara said that he did recieve letters asking for these guys heads...man, I would have to be REALLY bored to write to the Giants owner and ask for someone to be fired. 

Long live Tom Coughlin and Reese (and Eli)...we love this team and appreciate YOUR accomplishments over the past 8 years.  Thank you!


You made some great points and if I may I would like to add the following.

 

After watching the pre Coach years I understood why some players were upset that Coach came in and changed the country club attitude the
team had. 

Coach brought four things to this job.  Being able to instill discipline, rebuild teams, develop Quarterbacks and being a proven winner.

The Maras knew this and were willing to give him the time to accomplish this. Unlike the previous coach who can’t find a job if they had
fired Coach he would have gotten another head coach job in a heartbeat.

Coach has accomplished all four of those things.  He has instilled discipline, rebuilt the team, developed Eli and won two Super Bowls.






Since: Feb 4, 2008
Posted on: February 7, 2012 12:34 pm
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

Great posts guys...I was starting to think that I (along with my friends) was in the minority as someone who loves Tom Coughlin.  The guy is a class act as is Mr. Reese.  I think there are always going to be those loser fans that freak out and hit panic button when something goes wrong.  In fact Mr. Mara said that he did recieve letters asking for these guys heads...man, I would have to be REALLY bored to write to the Giants owner and ask for someone to be fired. 

Long live Tom Coughlin and Reese (and Eli)...we love this team and appreciate YOUR accomplishments over the past 8 years.  Thank you!



Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: February 7, 2012 12:29 pm
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

my biggest problem with all of this is that had they not won week 17, would we not be possibly talking about Coughlin in terms of "can he keep his job?".  I find it rather embarrassing that the media jumps to conclusions as fast as they do, including many fans.  1 game was the difference between the next CBS article reading "Coughlin should get the gate" and instead the article is about his "legacy".  I for one give the most credit to Eli Manning whom throughout his career I considered nothing more than an average QB that hit a hot streak at the right time during the playoffs 3 years ago and otherwise has just rode the coattails of his father and brothers legacy.  That is no more.  Eli has shown this entire season that he may be a Manning, but he's also a great QB himself.  That pass to Manningham was simply the icing on the cake.  I'm doubtful even the praised Tom Brady could have made that throw and he did it without hesitation, without question that he'd hit his receivers hands.  I think too often fans especially take for granted what it is like to have a guy of his talent playing on your team, and you only realize it once it's gone.  Take it from me, a Bills fan.  I saw some of the greatest years any fan could ever see, aside from finishing the final game of course, and we've been searching for our Jim Kelly replacement ever since.  I say that about Coughlin too.  Giant fans should not be so fast to question him, or his abilities because an absolutely clueless coach is just around the corner.  Congrats to the Giants and lets hope that's the last time in decades that we will have to see the Patriots



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: February 7, 2012 11:59 am
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

Scorpio there are only 2 teams that wouldn't pick up Eli in the drop of a hat.  Saints and the  Packers.  Eli is better than Ben not to mention he would be 100xs better at repairing the scumbag image we have of the Steelers.  I'm very proud Eli is our QB.  He never is in the newspaper unless it's something good.  He doesn't have 18 rape allegations or crack possession charges.  He's a very humble guy.  I look at it like Drew Brees.  Breesus is such a good person that it's hard not to root for him.  If the Giants went down,  I would've been rooting for the Saints the whole way.  ELihas proven to be the most clutch QB in the league right now.  Where are all the people who made fun of us for not getting Rivers? 



Since: Apr 5, 2007
Posted on: February 7, 2012 11:50 am
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

Unless you followed the team closely in its home market you'd believe all this talk about media and fans calling for Coughlin's head.  It's only true to the extent ALL teams (as in, 100%) have such fans.  The media?  Almost all have been defending Coughlin.  The fans? Sure, some fans have been saying Coughlin's tenure has been marked by late season collapses and, with one notable exception, when they reach the playoffs getting blown out at home.  But this is a small minority.  The vast, vast majority of Giants fans have been happy with Coughlin.  It's too bad that all you have to do is repeat something enough times ("Giants fans have been calling for coughlin to be fired!") for people to accept it as fact.




Since: Feb 1, 2007
Posted on: February 7, 2012 10:58 am
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

Excellent post, chasmunch!  Refreshing to read something of substance and insight on these usually boorish boards.  Well done.




Since: Sep 26, 2011
Posted on: February 7, 2012 10:21 am
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

...this is the same guy who at .500 everyone had their buckets of tar warmed up and and sacks of feathers at the ready....and the big time haters could be seen milling about the rail yelping it was time to get the party started....good lord, save us all.


    I'm pretty sure the Head Coach is reflected by what his team accomplishes out on the playing field....the HoF isn't peppered w/ head coaches w/ losing records but w/ lots of coaching ability...



    I'm really not a Giants fan. In 1960 I was a pre-teen listening to the Eagles win 'The Title' on the radio w/ the men of my family, so I became a fan of Norm Van Brocklin, Concrete Charlie Bednarik, and The Eags.  Funny, I couldn't tell you the head coach's name if my life depended on it.....



   To fast forward, the owners, the coaches, the team doctors are now all part of the theatre...everybody knows way more about these people than they have a right to.....if it's just a game that adults play, than play the game....but as everyone knows it's a business, no, a BIG BUSINESS. Try gathering as much inside personal information about CEOs from Fortune 500 Corps.....not gonna happen....



   All I've seen of Tom Coughlin, heard from his mouth, is praise for the guys who play for him...no public spanking of guys that fall out of step....just team team team. ....and he coaches at the pleasure of the Maras...


   Hall of Fame?...who knows?  But he is a genuine winner, a team guy, an asset to his organization, and more clearly now that ever, a humble man that grown men want to go to war for, and someone that the Giants someday will have a very hard time replaceing, as in his retirement.


   If there is one thing in sports that bugs me a little too much, it's the judgement of guys like Coughlin stirred up by the press when his guys on the field are getting the short end of it....so look what the Giants accomplished....they won it all.  As a fan of sport in general, I've derived an extra measure of satisfaction with the comeback of this team, this year, led by the old quiet head coach working his tail off on the sidelines.


   This was a big win for the NFL as much as for the Giants....it's a real story line about big time human beings...relish it....it's a rare commodity amongst all the superfluous noise dished out by the press hunting for traction.    &n
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Since: Nov 12, 2011
Posted on: February 7, 2012 10:04 am
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

here is the press again, chasing egotistical statements like the WWE and to set thestage for future rivalries and to cause fissures in the family relationship between Eli and Peyton.  The leading questions should be directed to cause organizational diswentions between management and players, not families.



Since: Jan 18, 2012
Posted on: February 7, 2012 5:46 am
 

Coughlin discusses legacy and Eli Manning

Stuz said

Who/what is elite?  It's kind of hard to say.  Coughlin built his reputation in Jacksonville on defense.  Defense is what won the game for the Giants and what ultimatel lost the game for the Patriots.  I think that for someone who has been fired by the New York media several times already, it isn't surprisng that Coughlin doesn't want to discuss his legacy.  He's smart enough to let that take care of itself.  Instead I'm sure that he would rather relish the truly not-fired status and let that speak for itself.



I know that I am only a rookie and I agree with most of what you said but respectfully I must disagree with the fact that Coach was known only for building defenses.


When he came to Giants he was more known for being both a stern disciplinarian (something the Giants needed at the time) and an offensive coach who could develop QB. For example he took Mark Brunell  and developed him in a three time Pro Bowler and a guy who piled up over 25,000 yards as a Jaguar.   He has continued to do that with ELi




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