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Suh, Vick, Plax highlight most-disliked athletes

Posted on: February 8, 2012 12:37 pm
Edited on: February 8, 2012 8:19 pm
Suh's moved past his Thanksgiving mistake, but the public hasn't forgotten yet. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Not breaking news: Michael Vick is an unpopular athlete when it comes to public polling. This has been true since Vick went to jail for dogfighting and it remains true to this day. But it's a bit surprising to see Lions defensive lineman Ndamukong Suh climbing the charts (sliding the chutes?) of the most unpopular athletes in the world.

According to a survey done by Nielson and published by Forbes, Suh checks in as the fourth-least-liked athlete in the world, behind only Vick, Tiger Woods and Plaxico Burress.

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It's not entirely shocking that Suh would end up on this list. He's easily recognizable as the second-overall pick in the 2009 NFL Draft and someone who has a pile of endorsements. He also stepped on an opponent on a nationally-televised Thanksgiving Day game against the Packers and drew a two-game suspension.

He's regarded in some corners as "dirty" and in many places as a "bad boy" of the NFL, regardless of whether or not that's accurate. According to Forbes, Suh's lack of popularity is a total 180-degree turn, as he was on the list of most popular athletes just four months ago.

"He went from being so popular to being a pariah in one season," says Stephen Master, VP of Sports for Nielson.

Fortunately for Suh, an incident-free 2012 will go a long way towards cleaning up his image. Guys like Plaxico and Vick, who served actual prison time, as well as Tiger, who suffered through a public infidelity scandal the likes of which we've never seen, have a much higher hill to climb if they want to regain their popularity among the general populace.

Dropping out of the top-10 most-hated list from the NFL this time around? Al Davis (passed away), Jerry Jones (must have become sympathetic with the Cowboys missing the playoffs?), Ben Roethlisberger (was never actually charged?) and Randy Moss (retired).

The lesson as always? Time heals all wounds. Some times it just takes longer for some people.

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Since: Jan 27, 2012
Posted on: February 9, 2012 6:08 pm
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Since: Apr 25, 2008
Posted on: February 9, 2012 1:58 pm

Suh, Vick, Plax highlight most-disliked athletes

well again you make excuses by pointing finger at me saying i dont know any black people or else i'd understand  1st  two wrongs don't make a right and 2nd i know plenty of black people thanks for your assumption that i dont don't your just as bad as what you rant against. 

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2012 1:12 pm

Suh, Vick, Plax highlight most-disliked athletes

Ndamukong Suh is a "dirty player" at best, but not a criminal

It is a mixture of two different things with very different implications on who these people are.  I would even say it is a mixture of three different things, because there are loads of players who are responsible citizens and not dirty players, but who are obnoxious (Ochocinco) who wind up on these kinds of lists.  I would equate Suh with someone like Bill Lambier.  He is an exceptionally good player but crosses the line into being a dirty player.  Lots of players have relished that role.  That is way different than committing a crime. 

And even having said that, not all crimes are equal.  What Vick did was a million times worse than what Plax did thought Plax is also obnoxious and has a rep as a bad teammate, so that could play into it too.  Having said that, what Rothlesberger was accused of is a lot worse than what Vick did, but there is a lot of ambiguity as to whether he actually did what he was accused of, so people give him the benefit of the doubt.

And I'm sure for some people race does play into it, but as a whole, there are a ton of reasons to dislike someone.  I hated Lambier and Isiah and Rodman but that emotion was skewed by the fact that a lot of their dirty, and often brilliant, basketball was played against the Bulls.  And it was easier to forgive Rodman his trangressions when he was wearing red and black and helping the Bulls to three championships. 

I'm sure there is a segment of the population that does embrace the whole "thug life" stereotype, but to say it is a majority of black America is silly.  Also, having gone to high school up in a predominantly white suburb in the late 80s/early 90s, I can tell you that it was not uncommon to hear NWA, Dre, Snoop, etc blasting from the speakers of a nice white middle class kid.  People are people and they like what they like, and there is no clean easy fair path to forgiveness. 

Last year before the Superbowl the Onion ran the headline "Rothlesberger one win away from being a good person"  Funny cause its true.

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Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: February 9, 2012 10:12 am

Suh, Vick, Plax highlight most-disliked athletes

While I understand both players making the list. I'd like to know how long does one have to pay for the crime one commits?  I am an animal lover and really find what Vick did repulsive. But he served his time, he continues to show remorse and bring awareness to cruelty to animals. Suh is labeled as a dirty player, mostly because of what he did this Thanksgiving game on national TV.  I'd like to know why Ben Roethisberger gets a free pass and it seems like no one ever brings up what he did.

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Since: Dec 14, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2012 8:59 am

Suh, Vick, Plax highlight most-disliked athletes

Of course most of these athletes on the Forbes list are black.  That is how the Afro culture in America behaves, in general.  Spare me your trite comments that I'm a racist, bigot, etc. Black culture in aggregate holds bad and even criminal behavior in high regard, as I guess they think that they are "sticking it to the man" or the like.  Ever listen to just about any "rap"? The vast majority of themes in this "music" have to do with f%%king b%tches, pimping out women, smoking weed, shooting people, gmee the money, etc.  These fantasti

c themes resonate loudly with blacks.  They dress like them, talk like them, and emulate these great role models as a whole.  And by the way, the guys on this list DESERVE to be on this list due to their personal behavior.  I would bet my LIFE that the blacks esteem of Vick, Eldrick, Plaxico, etc, only GREW after the beforementioned gentleman were caught in their various gun, dog-killing, massive infidelity scandals, etc..."Street cred"...As a contrast, the majority of European- descended America has a much different view.  They find qualities like humility, education, fidelity, law-abidement, philanthropy, etc, much more appealing, as it represents themselves as a whole. Call me a liar.  There are, of course, exceptions on both sides but if you asked young black boys what they want to be when they grow up I would guess the #1 and #2 answers are an NBA player or a rapper.  That is just a fact of their culture.  Ask white children and you will get an entirely different array of answers, very few of which would be playing in the NBA or "rapping".  As Negro/black people probably consist of only 12% of the population, I would expect that a poll of the most dis-liked athletes to be black. Most of the resondents in the poll are white and don't admire the values of these men.  Just my guess - if a poll of the most ADMIRED athletes was administered to blacks only, the top vote getters would be something in the nature of Tiger (serial philanderer/liar), Kobe (rapist), Vick (dog killer), Randy Moss (wife beating pot head),and maybe even OJ (murderer).  If only whites were asked the same question I'm guessing it would look something like Manning, Pujols, Verlander, Mickelson, Duncan, Brees, etc, people who's values they look up to...Just my opinion...

I'm not going to call you racist... What you fonted here shows you know absolutely nothing about black people and this doesn't have anything to do with black culture... If anything, you watch too much TV and accept everything you've been told about blacks... You probably don't know any blacks personally because if you did, they'd tell you how ridiculous your opinion is... IF they know you have this opinion, that is...  

I'm a black man and I know something you definitely don't... There's a set of rules for black men that don't apply to anybody else!!  The rule is: "As long as you're a good boy, we'll treat you really nice.. But don't you get outta line boy!!"  We black men have learned to operate within that paradigm... Thing about these guys is they forgot the rule!!  As soon as they did, you and your kind gave them a good asswhipping... Andyou want the asswhipping to continue.. that's why you can't stand them...

I posed the question yesterday... WHAT has any of these guys done to you personally??  No one wants to go there because you realize how ridiculous it is to not like someone for no reason... Well here's the answer... You hate them because they violated your rule, got out of line, and you want them to pay dearly for abusing your paternalistic love...

Since: Aug 10, 2011
Posted on: February 9, 2012 5:45 am

Suh, Vick, Plax highlight most-disliked athletes

I understand the hatred for Michael Vick and Plaxico Burress.  They are both convicted criminals.  Ndamukong Suh is a "dirty player" at best, but not a criminal.  He plays hard and instills fear in offenses.  You have to gameplan for Suh, I don't think he deserves to be on the same list as Vick and Plax. 

Since: Feb 13, 2007
Posted on: February 9, 2012 2:05 am

Suh, Vick, Plax highlight most-disliked athletes

Take away the stomp though and really Ndamukong Suh has done nothing wrong in my eyes. He plays the DT position the way the football gods intended. Mean, nasty, and downright destructive. Stop the run, and break the QB. Any NFL GM, Coach or defense would add this guy in a heartbeat. I'd buy a Suh jersery day one if he was a Panther. Playing dirty, gets labeled on defensive players way to quick. You want dirty? Check out the Falcons O-line under Dan Reeves. Some of those guys would gouge eyes, kick, chop block, and roll defender's legs intentionally to cause injury. But has an OL ever been suspended?

Since: Oct 3, 2006
Posted on: February 9, 2012 12:49 am

Suh, Vick, Plax highlight most-disliked athletes

sorry Hawkman.  I will try to do better, or actually um, time :)

I do agree strongly with one part of the article..I think given the relative newness of his hater crowd, Suh can prtty easily turn the corner if he play's nice next year, (and its not completely naive to expect him to do that. he may have simply gotten too famous too fast and had the classic young celebrity meltdown)

whereas there may be no hope for the others since the roots of their unpopularity are buried pretty deep.

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