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Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Posted on: February 8, 2012 5:37 pm
Edited on: February 10, 2012 2:51 pm
Assuming he's healthy, all signs are pointing to Manning playing elsewhere in 2012. (Getty Images)

By Ryan Wilson

Peyton Manning's change in fortune has been swift. Prior to the 2011 season, the general perception of what he meant to Indianapolis went something like this: he had singlehandedly saved the Colts from themselves, led them to a Super Bowl title in 2006, and his accomplishments were the currency that helped fund Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Now, days removed from Super Bowl XLVI -- hosted in Indianapolis by the way -- Manning has gone from patron saint of the city to public enemy No. 1. Maybe that's a slight exaggeration but not by much.

In the weeks prior to the Giants-Patriots matchup, Manning spoke with the Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz about his future with the Colts. The takeaway: Peyton had no intentions of retiring, even if his future wasn't with in Indy.

Owner Jim Irsay fired back, calling Manning "a politician," the two then issued a joint statement professing great love and admiration for one another. And that appeared to be that. Neither side spoke in specifics about their situations during Super Bowl Week … until Thursday evening, when Manning's camp leaked word that Manning had been medically cleared to play. This was news to everyone, including Irsay, who tweeted hours later that "Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts."

And it was at that point that the public, which had firmly supported Peyton basically since the moment he was drafted in 1998, began to view the franchise quarterback differently.

During a Wednesday appearance on "The Tony Kornheiser Show," Kravitz talked about the he-said, he-said back-and-forth posturing by both camps and what it means for the future of Peyton and the Colts.

"I think people are starting to sway over to Jim Irsay's side on this," Kravitz told Kornheiser. "… It's such a no-brainer. It's been a no-brainer since they went to 0-13. He could give them money to play football. Andrew Luck has got to play, okay? It's not even about the $35 million anymore. I mean, the guy's arm is a noodle, he can't throw like an NFL quarterback, and by March 8, there's no way of knowing whether he's going to be ready or not."

Wow. "Arm is a noodle" is nowhere near "been medically cleared to play." But that doesn't mean Manning won't be healthy at some point. It's just that nobody knows when.

“I know some of the people that have seen him throw,” Kravitz continued. "They say he’s not throwing like an NFL quarterback yet. That doesn’t mean he never will.  This thing is going to take time. Structurally, he’s sound. Structurally, he can take a hit.”

In response to a question from Kornheiser that "Manning hijacked the Super Bowl," Kravitz responded, "I'm quite sure [Peyton] did it deliberately.

"I lost a lot of -- I don't want to say respect for him -- but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and not say that his conversation with me was political and calculated, but there's no doubt in my mind that that story breaking Thursday night right around the time every single TV station is doing an exclusive on Andrew Luck (and, it turns out, blog).

"It comes out on Thursday night about six o'clock -- that doesn't come out unless the Peyton Manning camp wants it to come out. They're putting public pressure on Jim Irsay. It was calculated, it was deceptive, I didn't think it was a good time to do it. And, yes, he absolutely stole the Super Bowl. … I don't think there's any doubt that he stole some of the attention away from the Super Bowl.

"Look, that story was going to be there whether he opened his mouth or not, but he had given us every indication that he was going to go underground and only do his Gatorade and DirecTV thing and then shut the hell up," Kravitz said. "And he didn't do that. I thought that that was kind of smarmy. …

"You got Andrew Luck, just start over, I wish they could make the decision today or tomorrow and move on with it. Instead we're just … holding onto something that doesn't really exist."

So, yeah, if it wasn't obvious before, we think it couldn't be clearer now: Peyton's played his last game for the Colts, and Eli was the last Manning to play in Lucas Oil Stadium during the 2011 season.

Now the only question is if the Redskins are still interested in Manning's services. (Obvious answer: of course they are!)

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Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 9:01 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Noodle arm or Noodle head? I would trust Manning with a noodle arm before all but maybe 6 other QBs. Shame on you Colt's fans for going for this. Manning built the Colts and you guys turn on him because you smell Luck around the corner. People wonder why sports stars run after money. No one is untouchable anymore. You guys must have forgot about Jeff George and his Million dollar arm and 2 cent head. I hope Luck Sucks and Manning plays 10 more years and rules the Colts everything they play.

Since: Dec 17, 2011
Posted on: February 8, 2012 8:52 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Kravitz is a babbling fool.  Always has been, always will be.

The general public's opinion in Indianapolis is with Peyton - They will not side with Isray.  "If" Peyton can play, the fans want him to remain a Colt.

And you Ryan Wilson may be a bigger babbling fool then Bob "Cheesebuger" Kravitz.    To write, and I quote " Manning has gone from patron saint of the city to public enemy No. 1. Maybe that's a slight exaggeration but not by much" is the dumbest thing I have ever heard.

You must not have been in Indy over Superbowl weekend, or not read the reports about how just about everyone, even dogs where sporting Indianapolis 18 Manning Jerseys the entire weekend.

While I agree the announcement was a timed move, and a PR ploy to put pressure on Irsay, what is wrong with that? It is a business right?  Why can't both sides play.  CBS brass should run you off for such a baseless statement.

I have always been a COLT fan, will continue to be a COLT fan and agree LUCK is the future in Indy, but if Peyton has anything left in the tank he should finish his career in Colt Blue.

The $28 million Jimmy has to cough up to Manning by March 8th unless they restructure his contract is peanuts compared to what Peyton made Jimmy during Superbowl week.  Without Peyton, there is no Superbowl in Indy, along with no talk of a future Superbowl in Indy down the road.

If Irsay cuts him, even as a Colts fan I hope Peyton signs with another AFC south team and crushes Jimmy's dream twice a year.  He would get what he deserved from the man that got his franchise where it is today.     
;     &nbs


Since: Nov 5, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 8:51 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Manning is DONE. End of story. His arm will NEVER regain the stremph it once had.

Since: Jul 27, 2011
Posted on: February 8, 2012 8:08 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Question: Who is the biggest loser?  Kravitz, Ryan Wilson, CBSSports, or the major media who pass along these non-headlines? You fellow bloggers have it right!  Kravitz has access so he is attributed credibility. Huh?  And since when is Manning public enemy no. 1--since Kravitz portrayed him as a Super Bowl stealer?  Helloooo, Bob Kravitz!  Helloooo CBSSports!  YOU are the ones attempting to shape public opinion when you don't even have a story!  No one does yet.  Go ahead and say Manning's doctor says he's cleared, that it's not a full-fledged physical from any team, that Indy won't know his health by the $28 million deadline. Say Luck is the man of the moment.  But for cryin' out loud!  ALSO say Luck hasn't thrown a NFL pass and could be a bust, that all the pressure in the world is on him.  Say if Manning's been doing any arm work-outs or COULD his arm be a noodle (and know what you're talking about).  And tell us--will someone tell us?--where Manning's injury even came from?  It's assumed to be football related, but it runs in the family and could be more than a nasty couple of hits. Otherwise, tell KRAVITZ to shut up!  And stop passing on his gossip.

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 8:04 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

AFC 100% no chance for the Skins because same divison as Eli, No Way.
There is 0% chance for the Skins because they're the effing skins. Peyton is smarter than that. He wants to play for wins and a super bowl shot, not money. The skins will never reach the super bowl under the ownership of Dan Snyder. Ever. If he goes, I think it is Arizona, Miami, and possibly Baltimore depending on Flacco's contract situation, in that order. In any event, we can all agree Kravitz blows goats and is a poor source of unbiased information.

Since: Oct 17, 2010
Posted on: February 8, 2012 8:03 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Peyton is an issue because the media made him an issue. If his arm is a noodle than as a Dolphins fan I say serve up a portion with some marinara sauce because we will take Peyton all day every day and twice on sunday and good LUCK with your franchise pick from the PAC 12 where they have such a long history of great QBs like Palmer and Sanchez oh and lest forget the one and only LEAF. Peyton to Reggie Bush out of the backfield sounds pretty good to me.

Since: Aug 9, 2009
Posted on: February 8, 2012 8:01 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

I really hope that Andrew Luck is a bust.

Yes I'm a Colts fan and yes it's most likely the Colts are going to take Luck in the draft but, if they don't I wouldn't hope he was a bust or any other player coming in the NFL. To me that's almost as bad as wishing an injury on a player. Besides what has Andrew Luck ever done to you? Did he wish you were a failure in your chosen profession? 

Since: Jun 2, 2009
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:59 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Really why hope QB's will be a bust?  The league only has about 15 respectable ones.

Since: Aug 25, 2010
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:53 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

I really hope that Andrew Luck is a bust.

Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:45 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

100% that Peyton goes to an AFC team. I am betting Miami. Daddy will not want the brothers having to face each other in the post season unless it is the Super Bowl (why do you think he forced Chargers Trade). Plus having Marshall, Bush and Wayne will follow as a FA. AFC 100% no chance for the Skins because same divison as Eli, No Way.

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