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Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Posted on: February 8, 2012 5:37 pm
Edited on: February 10, 2012 2:51 pm
Assuming he's healthy, all signs are pointing to Manning playing elsewhere in 2012. (Getty Images)

By Ryan Wilson

Peyton Manning's change in fortune has been swift. Prior to the 2011 season, the general perception of what he meant to Indianapolis went something like this: he had singlehandedly saved the Colts from themselves, led them to a Super Bowl title in 2006, and his accomplishments were the currency that helped fund Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Now, days removed from Super Bowl XLVI -- hosted in Indianapolis by the way -- Manning has gone from patron saint of the city to public enemy No. 1. Maybe that's a slight exaggeration but not by much.

In the weeks prior to the Giants-Patriots matchup, Manning spoke with the Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz about his future with the Colts. The takeaway: Peyton had no intentions of retiring, even if his future wasn't with in Indy.

Owner Jim Irsay fired back, calling Manning "a politician," the two then issued a joint statement professing great love and admiration for one another. And that appeared to be that. Neither side spoke in specifics about their situations during Super Bowl Week … until Thursday evening, when Manning's camp leaked word that Manning had been medically cleared to play. This was news to everyone, including Irsay, who tweeted hours later that "Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts."

And it was at that point that the public, which had firmly supported Peyton basically since the moment he was drafted in 1998, began to view the franchise quarterback differently.

During a Wednesday appearance on "The Tony Kornheiser Show," Kravitz talked about the he-said, he-said back-and-forth posturing by both camps and what it means for the future of Peyton and the Colts.

"I think people are starting to sway over to Jim Irsay's side on this," Kravitz told Kornheiser. "… It's such a no-brainer. It's been a no-brainer since they went to 0-13. He could give them money to play football. Andrew Luck has got to play, okay? It's not even about the $35 million anymore. I mean, the guy's arm is a noodle, he can't throw like an NFL quarterback, and by March 8, there's no way of knowing whether he's going to be ready or not."

Wow. "Arm is a noodle" is nowhere near "been medically cleared to play." But that doesn't mean Manning won't be healthy at some point. It's just that nobody knows when.

“I know some of the people that have seen him throw,” Kravitz continued. "They say he’s not throwing like an NFL quarterback yet. That doesn’t mean he never will.  This thing is going to take time. Structurally, he’s sound. Structurally, he can take a hit.”

In response to a question from Kornheiser that "Manning hijacked the Super Bowl," Kravitz responded, "I'm quite sure [Peyton] did it deliberately.

"I lost a lot of -- I don't want to say respect for him -- but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and not say that his conversation with me was political and calculated, but there's no doubt in my mind that that story breaking Thursday night right around the time every single TV station is doing an exclusive on Andrew Luck (and, it turns out, blog).

"It comes out on Thursday night about six o'clock -- that doesn't come out unless the Peyton Manning camp wants it to come out. They're putting public pressure on Jim Irsay. It was calculated, it was deceptive, I didn't think it was a good time to do it. And, yes, he absolutely stole the Super Bowl. … I don't think there's any doubt that he stole some of the attention away from the Super Bowl.

"Look, that story was going to be there whether he opened his mouth or not, but he had given us every indication that he was going to go underground and only do his Gatorade and DirecTV thing and then shut the hell up," Kravitz said. "And he didn't do that. I thought that that was kind of smarmy. …

"You got Andrew Luck, just start over, I wish they could make the decision today or tomorrow and move on with it. Instead we're just … holding onto something that doesn't really exist."

So, yeah, if it wasn't obvious before, we think it couldn't be clearer now: Peyton's played his last game for the Colts, and Eli was the last Manning to play in Lucas Oil Stadium during the 2011 season.

Now the only question is if the Redskins are still interested in Manning's services. (Obvious answer: of course they are!)

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Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:04 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Kravitz is the scum here. Trying to draw attention to himself. News people should report news not create it. When did this all change?

Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:02 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

On a side note, I am shocked that I even have to defend Peyton.  I can't even believe it.  He's been a stand-up player for 13 years and on pace to break every meaningful passing record, and he needs to be defended from some people?  Unfreakingbelievable.

Since: Sep 1, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:02 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Peyton who? Oh yes....Two Time Super Bowl Champ Eli Manning's older brother. I forgot about that second fiddle.

Since: Jan 18, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 7:01 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Maybe I'm crazy, but I think Peyton Manning has earned the right to do whatever he wants and say whatever he wants in Indy.  Whoever said his arm is a noodle is an idiot, plain and simple.  If you want to criticize Peyton, do yourself a favor and look up his career numbers, okay?  Peyton could've technically been voted MVP last year without playing a down.  Why?  Because now we have irrefutable evidence how valuable he was to the Colts for most of the last decade.  He may not play in Indy next year, but he deserves better than what Irsay and the media have said since he went to rehab.

Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: February 8, 2012 6:56 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Wow... this guy Kravitz is an idiot.  He should apply for a job on this website, writing articles.  He would fit right in.  "Peyton hijacking the Superbowl"???  Ridiculous, and doesn't even warrant a response.  Peyton was tickled pink for his little brother, and went out of his way to be low- key.  This Kravitz is a total MORON. 

Since: Nov 25, 2010
Posted on: February 8, 2012 6:45 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Peyton is not a much better PLAYOFF and SUPER BOWL QB. Eli has him beat handily there. Just setting that straight. Regular season? No contest - it's Peyton.

Since: Nov 14, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 6:43 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Irsay doesn't need the city on his side.  He just needs to decide on the best course of action, and if he's wrong, the fans will let him know with their dollars, and if he's right, the fans will buy Luck-y #7 jerseys and hold up signs that say "Peyton Who?" and move on, because that's how fans are.

The problem is not just at QB though.  Look at the Peyton pick.  It followed Faulk 4 years earlier and Harrison 2 years earlier.  Without them, is Peyton the savior?  And since that draft, 1st rounders included Edge, Wayne, Clark, Freeney, Addai and Anthony Gonzalez.  This team knows (knew?) how to draft.

It takes years of consistent drafting to make a solid offensive team.  Luck won't help if they don't add more talent around him consistently, replace the RB every 5 years, etc. 

Since: Sep 25, 2007
Posted on: February 8, 2012 6:37 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Still butt hurt, huh gopack?  Don't worry.  There's always next year.

Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 6:34 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Wow, does Kravitz look stupid here.  Kravitz expanded the questions beyond the original "brother-in-the-Super-Bowl" scope, then rails on Peyton Manning for answering those questions and considers them calculating and political.  Dude, you asked for the interview, then you asked him about his health and future.  And you blame him for talking about it?  Then you complain about the timing of the word about his doctors clearing him.  Maybe if Kravitz hadn't been campaigning for the Colts to cut Manning and move on with Luck, even saying that was the only choice, he wouldn't have such a conflict of interest in his "work". 

Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: February 8, 2012 6:26 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

The most unfortunate thing that is happening is that little bro is getting all the accolades that big Manning deserves.

Peyton is a much better QB, he went to a team that wasn't that good (when he was drafted) and didn't whine about it, and was on pace to break all Favre's records until he got hurt.

Little man Manning (Eli) is a whiner who cried his way out of San Diego, has a couple lucky plays a game, and is all of a sudden consider hall of fame material?  The fact that he got the MVP just goes to show you how ridiculous the attention he gets is.

If you want to name an MVP of that game I think you can pick any one of three guys on that defensive line.  Without that defense holding Brady in check the measly few points Eli was "given" would not have even been close to enough to win that game.

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