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Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Posted on: February 8, 2012 5:37 pm
Edited on: February 10, 2012 2:51 pm
Assuming he's healthy, all signs are pointing to Manning playing elsewhere in 2012. (Getty Images)

By Ryan Wilson

Peyton Manning's change in fortune has been swift. Prior to the 2011 season, the general perception of what he meant to Indianapolis went something like this: he had singlehandedly saved the Colts from themselves, led them to a Super Bowl title in 2006, and his accomplishments were the currency that helped fund Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Now, days removed from Super Bowl XLVI -- hosted in Indianapolis by the way -- Manning has gone from patron saint of the city to public enemy No. 1. Maybe that's a slight exaggeration but not by much.

In the weeks prior to the Giants-Patriots matchup, Manning spoke with the Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz about his future with the Colts. The takeaway: Peyton had no intentions of retiring, even if his future wasn't with in Indy.

Owner Jim Irsay fired back, calling Manning "a politician," the two then issued a joint statement professing great love and admiration for one another. And that appeared to be that. Neither side spoke in specifics about their situations during Super Bowl Week … until Thursday evening, when Manning's camp leaked word that Manning had been medically cleared to play. This was news to everyone, including Irsay, who tweeted hours later that "Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts."

And it was at that point that the public, which had firmly supported Peyton basically since the moment he was drafted in 1998, began to view the franchise quarterback differently.

During a Wednesday appearance on "The Tony Kornheiser Show," Kravitz talked about the he-said, he-said back-and-forth posturing by both camps and what it means for the future of Peyton and the Colts.

"I think people are starting to sway over to Jim Irsay's side on this," Kravitz told Kornheiser. "… It's such a no-brainer. It's been a no-brainer since they went to 0-13. He could give them money to play football. Andrew Luck has got to play, okay? It's not even about the $35 million anymore. I mean, the guy's arm is a noodle, he can't throw like an NFL quarterback, and by March 8, there's no way of knowing whether he's going to be ready or not."

Wow. "Arm is a noodle" is nowhere near "been medically cleared to play." But that doesn't mean Manning won't be healthy at some point. It's just that nobody knows when.

“I know some of the people that have seen him throw,” Kravitz continued. "They say he’s not throwing like an NFL quarterback yet. That doesn’t mean he never will.  This thing is going to take time. Structurally, he’s sound. Structurally, he can take a hit.”

In response to a question from Kornheiser that "Manning hijacked the Super Bowl," Kravitz responded, "I'm quite sure [Peyton] did it deliberately.

"I lost a lot of -- I don't want to say respect for him -- but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and not say that his conversation with me was political and calculated, but there's no doubt in my mind that that story breaking Thursday night right around the time every single TV station is doing an exclusive on Andrew Luck (and, it turns out, blog).

"It comes out on Thursday night about six o'clock -- that doesn't come out unless the Peyton Manning camp wants it to come out. They're putting public pressure on Jim Irsay. It was calculated, it was deceptive, I didn't think it was a good time to do it. And, yes, he absolutely stole the Super Bowl. … I don't think there's any doubt that he stole some of the attention away from the Super Bowl.

"Look, that story was going to be there whether he opened his mouth or not, but he had given us every indication that he was going to go underground and only do his Gatorade and DirecTV thing and then shut the hell up," Kravitz said. "And he didn't do that. I thought that that was kind of smarmy. …

"You got Andrew Luck, just start over, I wish they could make the decision today or tomorrow and move on with it. Instead we're just … holding onto something that doesn't really exist."

So, yeah, if it wasn't obvious before, we think it couldn't be clearer now: Peyton's played his last game for the Colts, and Eli was the last Manning to play in Lucas Oil Stadium during the 2011 season.

Now the only question is if the Redskins are still interested in Manning's services. (Obvious answer: of course they are!)

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Since: Oct 26, 2010
Posted on: February 10, 2012 3:38 am

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

I get a kick out of reading writers, non-football people and those who are NOT in the know comment on how Manning is throwing while people in the know think he his really close and looking fine.

Who to believe.... Who to believe....   

Since: Nov 15, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2012 1:41 am
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Since: Mar 24, 2009
Posted on: February 10, 2012 12:51 am

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

In case none of those posting about Peyton Manning here realize it, professional football is a cutthroat business.Since that's the case, players & owners jockey all the time over how to best position themselves financially.Given the questions about Peyton's health, it's been a given for some time that the Colts are unlikely to exercise their expensive option & keep him.Obviously, Peyton feels he can still play, so he's trying to make the moves that will put him in position to get the best deal possible as a free agent.Would any of you criticizing him for this do anything differently if you were in his shoes?Don't you try to make as much money from you jobs as you reasonably can?

Whoever does sign Manning will definitely be taking a gamble.If a real bidding war breaks out, the "winner" who signs him will be taking a very high stakes gamble that could either pay off BIG TIME  or blow up in their faces.If Manning comes back totally healthy & is signed by a team on the verge of contending for a title (like San Francisco, Chicago, or maybe the NY Jets) Peyton could quite possibly carry them to a Super Bowl championship.But, if he's unable to come back at full strength whoever signs him could end up paying a fortune for a QB like the Vikings got stuck with last year when they signed Donovan McNabb. A low base salary contract with a lot of performance related incentives would be a good deal if some team on the cusp of contending can pull it off. However, given some of the NFL owners, this probably won't shake out that way. One (or more) NFL owner with more dollars than sense will probably offer Manning an absurd amount of guaranteed money to sign him.Somehow the name Daniel Snyder comes to mind here.It should be interesting to see how this all turns out.

Since: Jun 7, 2007
Posted on: February 10, 2012 12:02 am

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Bob Kravitz is known around town as the sports writer who's always looking for a reaction... any reaction.  His take on matters means absolutely nothing to me, or any of the other readers he so desperately tries to please.  He is only a writer by default, as this city has nobody else even interested in covering the sports articles.  He "knows some people who have seen him throw"?? Give me a break, Kravitz may be right, he may not... but his 'sources' are uncredible, and this is a non-story. Also, as for Peyton trying to steal the spotlight in the SuperBowl: he hid from the cameras the entire game, and only made a congratulatory statement through his father... Kravitz is a moron, and his garb is not far from that of 'the Onion'

Since: Dec 17, 2010
Posted on: February 9, 2012 11:48 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

I can't believe we are about to go through another bitter NFL divorce. The Brett Favre never ending sagas were bad enough. I think the media coverage of the Colts-Manning divorce will be covered even more than the Favre-Packers divorce. Get ready for ESPN's 24-7 non stop coverage.  

Since: Jan 7, 2012
Posted on: February 9, 2012 9:46 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Peyton Manning is a Good Sport! Nothing he says or does in the eyes of the public deserves the scrutiny this P.O.S. has laid on him. Will he ever be a hundred percent again? Maybe. Is it worth full pay? Not until proven. I'd say its a gamble for any team to pay him out right which is exactly why he's mentioned a conditional contract depending on performance. Who would expect anything less from an ELITE Qb with the Sportsmanship and Dignity of a Real American Idol!  He's as blue blooded as can be with the Colts and for them to try and press their "Luck" with a new qb instead of retaining him is a huge mistake. as far as him "stealing attention from the superbowl" Go pork yourself. I watched the game just like the rest of America and never thought twice about Peyton. It's all in your retarded head. 

Since: Jan 7, 2012
Posted on: February 9, 2012 9:35 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'


Since: Dec 17, 2011
Posted on: February 9, 2012 9:06 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

He'll return, but likely not at 100 percent. For a team with nothing to lose to have a formetly great players fo 3 years may be appealing.

Since: Jun 30, 2009
Posted on: February 9, 2012 6:22 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

The Redskins have 0 interest. 

The last thing Shanny wants is a QB that calls 50% of his own plays and has never run in a motion-centric offense or with unbalanced sets. 

Since: Sep 29, 2008
Posted on: February 9, 2012 6:21 pm

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

My, my, the gratitude these folks in Indianapolis must have. Irsay's had diarrhea of the mouth all along. Speculating, making pronunciamentos about forcing one of the greatest QBs in the history of the game to stay as some kind of glorified handmaiden to the young Pretender. He put Manning's ego out there and played a little hackey-sack with it in full view of the world. What, he and the rest of the ungrateful mob figure Peyton should just take it like some jailhouse punk?

That deserves re-posting. What an absolute asshole Kravitz is!! How DARE he? That maggot would be at the track texting results into the off-track betting parlors if it weren't for Manning. Irsay is mentally ill so he deserves a pass but he too will soon feel the wrath of Manning. Luck? Not my favorite after four years of that running game and a weak ass Pac 10 but whatever. He is NOT going to be Peyton Manning. Kravitz deserves what is obviously a very shitty life. I'm glad.

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