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Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Posted on: February 8, 2012 5:37 pm
Edited on: February 10, 2012 2:51 pm
 
Assuming he's healthy, all signs are pointing to Manning playing elsewhere in 2012. (Getty Images)

By Ryan Wilson

Peyton Manning's change in fortune has been swift. Prior to the 2011 season, the general perception of what he meant to Indianapolis went something like this: he had singlehandedly saved the Colts from themselves, led them to a Super Bowl title in 2006, and his accomplishments were the currency that helped fund Lucas Oil Stadium.

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Now, days removed from Super Bowl XLVI -- hosted in Indianapolis by the way -- Manning has gone from patron saint of the city to public enemy No. 1. Maybe that's a slight exaggeration but not by much.

In the weeks prior to the Giants-Patriots matchup, Manning spoke with the Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz about his future with the Colts. The takeaway: Peyton had no intentions of retiring, even if his future wasn't with in Indy.

Owner Jim Irsay fired back, calling Manning "a politician," the two then issued a joint statement professing great love and admiration for one another. And that appeared to be that. Neither side spoke in specifics about their situations during Super Bowl Week … until Thursday evening, when Manning's camp leaked word that Manning had been medically cleared to play. This was news to everyone, including Irsay, who tweeted hours later that "Peyton has not passed our physical nor has he been cleared to play for The Indianapolis Colts."

And it was at that point that the public, which had firmly supported Peyton basically since the moment he was drafted in 1998, began to view the franchise quarterback differently.

During a Wednesday appearance on "The Tony Kornheiser Show," Kravitz talked about the he-said, he-said back-and-forth posturing by both camps and what it means for the future of Peyton and the Colts.

"I think people are starting to sway over to Jim Irsay's side on this," Kravitz told Kornheiser. "… It's such a no-brainer. It's been a no-brainer since they went to 0-13. He could give them money to play football. Andrew Luck has got to play, okay? It's not even about the $35 million anymore. I mean, the guy's arm is a noodle, he can't throw like an NFL quarterback, and by March 8, there's no way of knowing whether he's going to be ready or not."

Wow. "Arm is a noodle" is nowhere near "been medically cleared to play." But that doesn't mean Manning won't be healthy at some point. It's just that nobody knows when.

“I know some of the people that have seen him throw,” Kravitz continued. "They say he’s not throwing like an NFL quarterback yet. That doesn’t mean he never will.  This thing is going to take time. Structurally, he’s sound. Structurally, he can take a hit.”

In response to a question from Kornheiser that "Manning hijacked the Super Bowl," Kravitz responded, "I'm quite sure [Peyton] did it deliberately.

"I lost a lot of -- I don't want to say respect for him -- but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt and not say that his conversation with me was political and calculated, but there's no doubt in my mind that that story breaking Thursday night right around the time every single TV station is doing an exclusive on Andrew Luck (and, it turns out, blog).

"It comes out on Thursday night about six o'clock -- that doesn't come out unless the Peyton Manning camp wants it to come out. They're putting public pressure on Jim Irsay. It was calculated, it was deceptive, I didn't think it was a good time to do it. And, yes, he absolutely stole the Super Bowl. … I don't think there's any doubt that he stole some of the attention away from the Super Bowl.

"Look, that story was going to be there whether he opened his mouth or not, but he had given us every indication that he was going to go underground and only do his Gatorade and DirecTV thing and then shut the hell up," Kravitz said. "And he didn't do that. I thought that that was kind of smarmy. …

"You got Andrew Luck, just start over, I wish they could make the decision today or tomorrow and move on with it. Instead we're just … holding onto something that doesn't really exist."

So, yeah, if it wasn't obvious before, we think it couldn't be clearer now: Peyton's played his last game for the Colts, and Eli was the last Manning to play in Lucas Oil Stadium during the 2011 season.

Now the only question is if the Redskins are still interested in Manning's services. (Obvious answer: of course they are!)

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Comments

Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: February 9, 2012 2:31 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

This is just more media created news that isn't really news. This writer is a jerk to even insinuate the Manning Indy Public Enemy #1. What exactly is that so called observation based on? How could an entire city turn on a player who done nothing but win, and win big and bring glory to a team that hadn'd much in the 20+ years before he arived. He gave the team and City an identity. If the media is going to print such crud, you better have some facts to back it up. I'd asay Irsay is PE #1 if it's anyone. Not Peyton. Why not print some actual fact you deadbeat sports beat writers. Right now I'd say the sports national media is lower than Congress or the National Enquirer...pure trash.



Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: February 9, 2012 2:26 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Its a nice state. Forgot to write that!



Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: February 9, 2012 2:26 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Ever been to Indiana?



Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: February 9, 2012 2:19 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Who the hell is this stupid woman with the stupid shirt?  What does Got Peyton? mean b****?



She's just some hick who calls herself a Colts fan but who probably couldn't name three other players on the team besides Manning.

In other words, a typical Colts fan.



Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: February 9, 2012 1:44 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

@joeshmoe Good points.



Since: Sep 23, 2009
Posted on: February 9, 2012 1:42 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

If YOU were the owner of the Colts, would YOU pay Manning 26-28 million in March not knowing if he can play ever again?  He was paid something like 26 million last year without playing a down. Yes I know what he has done for the team, but he also has been paid a lot of money in return. YOU were 2-14 last year. YOUR in a rebuilding area. Rebuild with either drafting Luck or getting a lot of draft picks for Luck. YOU need more than manning to fix this team. Just one guys opinion. Right or wrong, Manning alone doesn't fix a 2-14 team. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

Look at it this way.  Why wouldn't Jim Irsay pay Peyton Manning in hopes of him being healthy enough to play.  He did it for Bob Sanders for 6 seasons.  He's done it for Anthony Gonzalez for 4 seasons.  He's done it for 2 seasons for Dallas Clark. 

With Manning, you can still rebuild through the draft.  Trading the 1st pick allows you to pick up a lot of young talent.  This years draft is deeper than it has been in years and sets up nicely for the Colts needs.  The safety position, LB's and DL's are plentiful.  As well, there are several good QB's available.  The Colts could draft RG3 if they slide down and allow him to sit behind Manning or Orlovsky and learn the system a la Aaron Rodgers.

With Manning being willing to restructure his contract and accept an incentive based contract with little or no base pay would also allow the Colts to resign current veterans Reggie Wayne and Robert Mathis.



Since: Jan 27, 2012
Posted on: February 9, 2012 1:39 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

You are correct PackCrewBucks99. It's the Media that destroys people's lives, or tries to. Peyton Manning has always been a stand up player and citizen. Some media are so poor at their jobs they prefer to criticise rather than report facts. Whatever happens with PM, will happen. All in good time. I don't agree with you about RG3. He may have lots of talent, but he should have stayed at college level for another year. He's too anxious to hit the big stage. Some scouts don't like his height and he did miss most of the 09 season with leg injury. Bumb leg/future injury potential is a red flag. Luck is proven commodity, ready to lead and very savvy with media (he will need to be good at taking criticism). Mr Irsay commented during SB week that he has never felt so stressed. No kidding. I believe they'll work something out suitable to both.




Since: Jan 27, 2012
Posted on: February 9, 2012 1:26 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Just wondering how this writer was able to determine the status of Peyton Manning's arm. I suppose you have to write about something, but you need to stick to factual information, quit speculating and making decisions for PM and Mr Irsay. No wonder some professional athletes prefer to stay completely clear of the media. It's a circus and not a very good one. I doubt very much any media is permitted to watch Manning rehab/work with receivers. So you all need to zip it and wait for those who matter, to make the call. It was the media who made the Peyton story overshadow the SuperBowl (a bit). Even worse was the constant barrage of questions aimed at Eli. That was rude and aimed at attempting to distract Eli. Didn't work. He played great, ignored the nonsense. The poor conduct of some media blew everything out of proportion and soon as the SB was over, the Manning bashing died down-for a few days. Here you go again-deciding where he will play. You don't know squat about anything. Try working a little harder and find another subject story to write about, IF you are good enough. The fans in Indy aren't blaming Peyton for anything. That's what lousy media does best. You can bet Manning and Irsay will find a private spot for their discussions. You'll just have to wait for the outcome. Quit spreading gossip and B.S.



Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: February 9, 2012 1:24 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

If YOU were the owner of the Colts, would YOU pay Manning 26-28 million in March not knowing if he can play ever again?  He was paid something like 26 million last year without playing a down. Yes I know what he has done for the team, but he also has been paid a lot of money in return. YOU were 2-14 last year. YOUR in a rebuilding area. Rebuild with either drafting Luck or getting a lot of draft picks for Luck. YOU need more than manning to fix this team. Just one guys opinion. Right or wrong, Manning alone doesn't fix a 2-14 team. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?   



Since: Nov 15, 2009
Posted on: February 9, 2012 1:15 pm
 

Indy writer on Peyton: His 'arm is a noodle'

Heads up folks! Sincerely. This is the stage where Indy Media begins to villify your Hall of Fame QB. And I say "Stage", because this is all a progression of a set plan to dump Peyton Manning. This is turning out to be Farve-Rodgers-Thompson, Walsh-Young-Montana. Irsay is essentially using Bill Walsh's playbook here. That playbook was used by Ted Thompson and now Jim Irsay. Now, if your like me, you will feel like will have lost a family member when Peyton goes,ala Brett Farve. Please people, I emplore you. This league is all about money. Don't let the media or the Colts begin to tell you Peyton Manning is a sneak or decietful. This is exactly what happened to Farve here in Wisconsin. Whatever happens, Peyton Manning IS the Indianapolis Colts. Although, Robert Griffin lll would look real good in a Colts uniform, just sayin'.


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