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Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments

Posted on: February 14, 2012 1:14 pm
Edited on: February 14, 2012 3:01 pm
Carter and Moss, in happier times. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Once upon a time, Cris Carter and Randy Moss were teammates with the Minnesota Vikings. As such, when news arises about Moss, ESPN trots out Cris Carter to make some comments. And over the past couple of days, Carter's managed to make Moss, who recently announced his return to football, something that doesn't resemble happy.

Carter initially said that Moss could hop out of bed and run a 4.3 40-yard dash. But then he added later that Moss has a lot of "quit" in him.

“The one thing you have to address with Randy Moss is not a conditioning thing," Carter said. "It's not an age thing. It needs to be addressed. I believe it's the elephant in the room. It's that thing called quit.

“And Randy, not like any other superstar I've met, he has more quit in him than any of those other players. So I need to addresses that. That's what (New England Patriots coach Bill) Belichick did when he brought him over from Oakland. He told him he wasn't going to have it."

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Moss had taken criticism from Carter pretty well, not mentioning it on one of his many USTREAM sessions. He's also been surprisingly contrite since announcing his return. But then he took to Twitter on Tuesday afternoon and fired some shots back at his former teammate.

"@criscarter80 its sad how u stroked ur own ego when u were suppose to b my mentor!then u wonder why karma bites u in the ass! #goodlukwithhof," Moss tweeted.

Quick translation: we're not boys anymore. I mean, it's one thing to fire back at Carter for something he did during his career, but ripping Carter for not making the Hall of Fame when one of the arguments against Carter is that Moss overshadowed him in Minnesota is kind of tough.

That being said, Carter stood up on his analyst pedestal and took some shots at a guy who's supposed to be his boy. He shouldn't be surprised if said guy, who doesn't usually operate with a filter in place, fires right back.

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Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:27 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments

First, Carter is paid to be an analyst and as such is expected to give his opinion. He is doing his job. If every ex-player or ex-coach held back their opinions on people they worked with on the field then Sunday morning shows wouldn't be worth watching because the analysts would be giving verbal reach-arounds to every player in the league.

Second, if I were Moss and I'm trying to get back into the NFL with the best possible fit and best possible deal I could get then the last thing I'd do is respond to any negative critisism. It just reinforces the persona people have of him. Keep you mouth shut until you get your deal.

Third, you could make a highlight reel of plays he has quit on over the years so stop Randy, stop acting like you never did.

Since: Aug 13, 2010
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:23 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments


I'm just pointing out the fact that Rice & Carter played against the same defenses and it didn't stop Rice from having ridiculous numbers. You know what stopped Carter from having ridiculous numbers? Moss. Check the stats from when these guys were teammates. Same defenses, same era. Numbers don't lie. But here's the other thing. People talk about defensive changes but forget to bring up what WRs used to be able to do in those days. WRs could push DBs down, shove'em to the side, literally fight them for the ball. Unless it was something utterlly egregious, you never saw pass interference called on the offense. Listen to the wideouts of those days, especially chris Collinsworth. So the whole defensive rules changes goes both ways. Micheal Irvin and Chris Carter were among the most physical WRs in the league at that time. That's what made them great. To be honest Chris Carter didn't even start blowing up until his 7th season. I think he owes a lot more credit for his success to Randy than anything. 

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:19 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments


Since: Jun 22, 2010
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:18 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments

Don't worry, if there will be any dumbassing going on it will come from you
Nice to know that we're on the same page...

And Carter doesn't get paid to say "things like that." He gets paid to speak his mind.

And there my friend is the question at hand. I think he's an idiot.

It has nothing to do with his stats like many of these idiots seem to want to bring into the conversation. It's about what he's preatching.
He's not preaching, he's giving his opinion on a subject....Since YOU don't agree with it, he's an idiot?

If he doesn't like the guy I'd rather he just say that.
Was he asked if he liked the guy or not?  One would think that you should be more offended if he went off on a tangent and said things about his dislike for the guy when asked about Moss' ability to catch a fade route...He was asked about where Moss would fit in best and he provided some context to his opinion...

I know, I'm a moron for giving my opinion that differs from your own...

Since: Dec 12, 2009
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:16 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments

....I will always remember the words...."I take plays off".......

Meaning that you are in fact a quitter Moss.....

Players who take plays off or quit should never even be thought of for the Hall Of Fame.....

Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:16 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments

This isn't anything new. This has been the knock on Moss his entire career. It shouldn't come as a surprise that Carter would make these comments when NFL defensive backs have made the same comments for years when asked about Moss quitting. Moss has never been a team player, has always had a 'me first' attititude and has always been a distraction off the field. But, that being said, in his younger days, teams would be willing to deal with it because of his talent. The problem is, now that he's getting up there in age, no one is willing to take the risk.  It's the same thing that happens to all loud-mouthed, me first guys when they get to the end of their careers. No one's going to bring this guy in to mentor younger players. No one's going to bring this guy in to coach younger players. And no one's going to give this guy an opportunity in the broadcast booth, because he's too controversial. The same thing has happened to TO, Barry Bonds, Jose Canseco, etc.

Since: Apr 28, 2011
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:11 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments

Why's everyone so riled up?  Carter is right, plain and simple. 
It does not matter what his career stats were, or if he's going to get into the HOF.
Randy got a bunch of money from the Raiders, then quit on them.
When he got to the Pats and wanted to play again, he was great.
Then he quit on the Vikes and never showed up for the Titans.
Whoever signs him now deserves what they get.  A quitter.

Since: Sep 3, 2007
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:09 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments

I'm not comparing Rice and Carter, as I never said anything about Jerry Rice, but since you mention it, did you see Jerry Rice's final 4 seasons? 12 total TD's I belive or close to it. It was just a way to pad his stats. He had a decent 1 and a half years with Oakland and then between the last 3.5 seasons he played his stats were just to pad on his to records. I'm not saying it wore on them physically, I'm just saying it was tougher to get the stats they had. Jerry Rice was just a gifted WR that had the ability to play longer than any other receiver ever. He would have the TD record in a season had he played 16 games. 22 TD's in 12 games. Cris Carter retired 2nd in td's and receptions, than Moss passed him in TD's and I think TO did, as well as Marvin Harrison in receptions and I don't know who else. 

Since: Oct 30, 2006
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:08 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments

Heck even when he "quit" he was twice the receiver Chris Carter ever was. Chris carter was
very very fortunate to have played with a great receiver like Moss. Chris should just keep his
trap shut and thank God anyone watches him

Since: Aug 13, 2010
Posted on: February 14, 2012 5:08 pm

Randy Moss rips Cris Carter for 'quit' comments


See I have to agree with you on the New England thing. There has only been one other athlete that has pulled the stuff Moss has pulled after leaving a winning franchise he, I guess you can say, "loves." And that's Dennis Rodman after the Detroit meltdown. Moss in Minn and NE was phenomenal. But you get the sense he felt letdown after being released from or traded from these teams. I don't believe he "quit" either. I do, however, believe he took some plays off. I'd be a hypocrite if I didn't. Plus, he never fit in with any team he played with after leaving NE. If he does come back, he'll be in rare form if used wisely. 

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