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Goodell on 18 games: 'People want more football'

Posted on: February 17, 2012 8:39 pm
Edited on: February 17, 2012 9:42 pm
 
Whether fans want it or not (they don't appear to), what about the safety concerns of an 18-game schedule? (US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

NFL commissioner Roger Goodell's salary will reportedly double to $20 million as part of a new five-year contract extension from the NFL. That's a lot of coin but if the league wasn't awash in money the owners wouldn't reward Goodell with that kind of payday.

Not surprisingly, some players were less than effusive when they heard the news, probably because depending on your perspective, Goodell's tenure as commissioner falls somewhere between awesome (the owners) and awful (the players). Falcons wide receiver Roddy White tweeted apoplectically Tuesday:

"How in the hell can u pay a man this much money that can't run tackle or catch?"

And before you roll your eyes, this isn't a "he's never played the game!" argument. When someone suggested that Goodell's oversight as commissioner has allowed White to make a lot of money, White got testy.

"Thats the stupidest thing i have ever heard the players make this league dont ever forget that," White tweeted in response. "My god given talents feed me not him."

This is true. No fan in the history of tackle football has ever bought a ticket to a game to see Goodell. We talked about this on a recent Pick-6 Podcast and our opinion is basically this: Goodell is a savvy politician who worked his way up from the bottom and is now presiding over the nation's most popular sport. He is responsible for it's growth, yes, but without players the NFL wouldn't exist in it's current form. We're pretty sure Goodell would agree with this.


We mention this because Goodell spoke recently about the state of the league, specifically addressing expansion ("We are not considering expansion. I’ve tried to make that clear when I was asked by Bob Costas recently.") and the never-gonna-die 18-game schedule discussions.

“Well, I appreciate the enthusiasm for it and I hear it from the fans consistently," Goodell told ESPN 1050, dusting off his not-entirely-accurate talking points from this summer's lockout. "People want more football. I think they want less preseason and more regular season and that’s the concept we are talking about here."

Again, this is stretching the truth. Everybody -- fans, players, media -- thinks the preseason is too long. But that doesn't mean they want, say, two fewer preseason games if it means two more regular-season games. Last May, CBSSports.com's Josh Katzowitz did an informal Twitter poll and found that 83.9 percent of respondents were fine with the 16-game schedule.

In February 2011, Sports Illustrated's Peter King did his own Twitter poll and concluded that "18 percent of 1,200 football fans, less than one out of every five, want what Goodell says they want. And 82 percent want to keep it at 16 regular-season games."

But even if you call B.S. on the self-selection bias in such polls, what about this? Goodell has championed safety above all else but isn't he talking out of both sides of his mouth when he says "safety is No. 1" and then clamoring for two additional regular-season games because the fans want it?

In November 2010, Dolphins owner Stephen Ross said "The additional games, the studies show, will not really increase injuries."

Technically, Ross was right. Esquire wrote about this issue back in January 2011:
Dated September 6, 2010, the 26-page version (of a study conducted by an independent research firm for an NFLPA injury report) relies on data from the NFL Injury Surveillance System in following 16,552 injuries from 2004 to 2009 — position-by-position, game-by-game, and location-by-location.

Over the course of a season, the analysis found that 16.1 percent of injuries occurred in training camp, another 24.7 percent in preseason, and 57.9 percent during the regular season. In total, 21.2 percent classified as "major" injuries, with severity increasing dramatically from the regular season to the postseason. And while game-related injuries actually trended down from week to week, the report's introduction of head-injury data provides an alarming juxtaposition…
The juxtaposition? Total team injuries decrease over the course of a 16-game season and into the postseason but the percentage of brain-related injuries increases over that same time. (You can see the charts here.)

Perhaps that's a function of better awareness about the long-term dangers of concussions, as well as improved testings procedures. "Still," the Esquire piece concludes, "the early version of the report states that each player now has a 10 percent chance of suffering from a concussion in a given season."

However you spin it, that's not good.

Back to Goodell's recent radio appearance:

"We wouldn’t add an extra two games without reducing the preseason and we are not going to do it without the players support, so we did that in the collective bargaining agreement instead of having the unilateral right, which we had," he said. "We determined that we were going to do this together. We are going to make changes in the offseason and during the preseason and during the regular season to make the game safer. If we can accomplish that we’ll look at the idea of restructuring the season and taking two preseason games away and the potential of adding regular season games, but I don’t think that will happen until at least 2013 or 14.”

Conspiracy theorists might say that while Goodell's crackdown on helmet-to-helmet hits and unprotected pass-catchers does make the game safer, it's also something he and the owners can point to in a few years and say, "See, we take this very seriously, illegal hits are down, the NFL is less violent, the next logical step: 18-game seasons."

Because other than money, there's no urgency here. If Goodell truly is listening to the fans (or the players), this wouldn't ever come up again. We're guessing that ain't happening.

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dlopez711
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2012 4:59 pm
 

Goodell on 18 games: 'People want more football'

Still for Green Bay just because the article Goodell says that the fans want 18 games mean nothing.Redwings says that we have no say.So who do you think knows more?

Forget to respond to this one before I give up on you people.  SEASON TICKET HOLDERS, ADVERTISERS AND SPONSORS MATTER.. NOBODY ELSE MATTERS.   That is not my opinion, it's a FACT.  As long as there is a demand for 18 games the NFL will go to 18 games. As long as the league gets confirmation from season ticket holders and/or future and new season ticket holders that's what matters. 

Everybody else?  Nobody cares.  Everybody else will watch the games on TV, just as they are instructed to do.  NFL fans love football and even when they cry about 18 game seasons they won't stop watching games for free on television. 



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 20, 2012 4:56 pm
 

Goodell on 18 games: 'People want more football'

`Part of this is right,But lets face it in the last 3 years they have still only played in 1 Playoff game and they got smoked.And I would not say they are lousy,but they have a way to go.Not so much in winning but more in becoming a team that shows class.They had a coach chase another coach 50 yards down the field into a tunnel and he should have been suspended,They had a player try and rip a players helmet off and also try to stomp on a players arm and he was suspended,and they also led the league in personal fouls.So they still have a ways to go.

Wow. I can't believe it took me this long to figure you guys out, but I now realize why you're jumping all over my other posts.  You know I'm a Detroit sports fans and you people hate Detroit sports, so anything I say isn't worth a dime.  LOL   Wow, I normally pick up on things quicker then that..... my bad.

Your above posts proves beyond a reasonable doubt you're a Detroit hater, nothing more nothing less.

A new management team took over an 0-16 team and you say they "only" just now played in a playoff game 3 years later? That's a MIRACULOUS accomplishment and something that should be rewarded, not looked down upon.  In 3 short years this  team went from the laughing stock in all sports to a good team.  And that's all you have to say about a playoff game?  LOL    WOW !!!

Their coach chased another coach 50 yards?  Can you at least hide being a Detroit sports hater a little better then that?  I've watched NFL football for 25 years and NEVER saw a coach do what Harbaugh did.  What Schwartz did was wrong, absolutely.  But if Harbaugh just stops and politely shakes the man's hand as ALL COACHES DO EVERY WEEK IN THE NFL that incident never happens.  Only a Detroit sports hater wouldn't blame Harbaugh for starting that fight.  NFL coaches don't run at the other coach, slam on the other coaches hand and push him away.  They stop, politely shake and congratulate then walk or jog away......  you are a joke for thinking otherwise.

As for what Suh did and the personal fouls, what's your point?  I've seen Steeler players like Harrison do a lot worse for years, yet they still win year after year.  Suh screwed up, no doubt about it and there is no defending him.  But to knock the Lions as an organization for what Suh did is flat out stupid that once again only haters would do.   When you sign a kid to a contract of that size with guaranteed money exceeding 40 million dollars, all you can do is try and talk to him.   You can't cut him, you can't suspend him for long ( he has a union backing him) and you can't easily trade him.  

I'm done talking to you fools. I thought you people could talk sports but you aren't a sports fan, real fans don't make their hate so obvious.

The Green Bay Packers coach, who knows a lot more then you'll ever know PREDICTED the Lions to do well this year.  McCarthy called them the up and coming team in the NFL and said the Lions worry him more then any other team in the division.   That's what he said when he was asked about his division opponents, not the Lions.   



Since: Jul 7, 2007
Posted on: February 20, 2012 4:38 pm
 

Goodell on 18 games: 'People want more football'

I must correct myself - - SteelersSam now holds the record for stupid, lame and biased things I've read.


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Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: February 20, 2012 1:51 pm
 

Goodell on 18 games: 'People want more football'

Redwing the reason I didn't mention the NBA or the MLB is because we were only talking NFL.  As the the NBA they have had preseason and exhibition games here in NM at the Pit.  MLB also has come to NM a few times to play exhibition games as well.

As the the NFL, not once have they come to NM.  You would think that a team like the Bears who has Native NM Urlacher would thow a bone to us at least once, but never has that been the case.

I travel to Pheonix year after year to see the RAMS play, I even travel to Dallas and Denver when the RAMS come to town as I do when the Lakers and the Dodgers are within Driving distance.

Would love to see some kind of Pro Team in NM.  We have the Isotopes which is the Triple A affiliate of the Dodgers, and I am proud to say as a City Councilor here in Santa Fe that I managed to get our city a Pro baseball team from the Pecos League of Professional Ball Clubs "SANTA FE FUEGO" which will start play this May.

For those cities such as mine it gives those of us who live and work here 24/7 and alternative to having to travel many miles to see our team play.  It may not be THE SHOW, but as a sports fan I just enjoy being at the park enjoying a game.

If the NFL ever decides to give New Mexico a chance at seeing a Pro game I guarantee it will be a sell out.  As much as I am not a fan of the Cowboys or Broncols NM has an abundant of these fans.  Hell if either one of them cam to play I would go jus because I love the sport, and to see a pro game is something I wouldn't pass the chance at seeing.



Since: Jan 29, 2007
Posted on: February 20, 2012 1:39 pm
 

Goodell on 18 games: 'People want more football'

The owners were willing to lock out the players because the players were getting something like 57 percent of BRI, that's why.  That number is ok when revenues weren't 9 billion dollars and growing, but the owners wanted a fair share of the pot, and they got it.  The owners knew the players union would cave, and they did.  And one more thing, NFL owners are the richest sports organization owners in the world so if necessary they could easily afford a lockout for a complete season. As for your Goodell comments, numbers is all that matters.  The NFL from 2006 through 2009 grew at a rate of about 7.6 percent per season in revenue.  The other 3 professional sports leagues only averaged growth of around 3.5 percent.   Also, 35 to 45 percent of the revenue other leagues bring in is from ticket sales, in the NFL only 22 percent is ticket sales.  THAT is where Goodell has been a master and why he's the best commissioner the league has ever had.  The revenue outside of ticket sales he's helped increase exponentially during his tenure is why he's getting the raises he's getting.And stop with the "on Goodell's nuts" comments.  What are you, 12 years old?  I'm not on anybody's nuts, but I understand the business world and how it works.  The NFL is by far the most profitable sports league in North America and it's growing, year after year.Until or unless that stops, Goodell isn't going anywhere and he'll continue to see his paychecks get larger.... as they should. 







 Why did you only reference 2006 to 2009? what happened in 2010 and 2011? In terms of the fans having a choice of either accepting the change or not watching. You're right and as I explained I canceled the NFL network and I did not miss not having the Thursday night games. As for my age I happened to be 12 years old, not sure why this is an issue. I'm sorry you do not appreciate the way us kids express ourselves. But my point was you seem to really like Roger Godell. I am curious to why you have such loyalty. Are you Roger Godell? Our maybe a relative of his? Does he pay your bills? I honestly can't think of 1 likable quality he has. Plus someone else made a good point, why say the fans want 18 games? why not just say I want to add 2 more games and remove 2 preseason game, and since I'm the commisioner and you are all just fans I'm going to make this change whether you like it or not? 

Sorry About the duplicate message, I'm a nube. I didn't know how to make that nice blue box.


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