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RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

Posted on: February 21, 2012 10:59 am
 
Griffin's legs will speak for the quarterback at the combine. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Robert Griffin III is one of the more interesting athletes at this year's NFL combine. He's a big-time athlete whose stock can only go up as the draft approaches. If he shines at the combine and at his Pro Day -- now scheduled for March 21 -- teams will scramble for the No. 2 pick the Rams currently hold.

But it won't be because of his throws, as Griffin said on the Dan Patrick Show that he "probably" wouldn't throw at the Combine.

"I don’t think so," Griffin said Tuesday. "It’s still up in the air but I'm probably not going to throw."

RG3, as Rob Rang noted recently, already said he was unlikely to throw at the combine. Griffin might not need to throw, however. He's going to run the 40-yard dash, and if he posts a sub-4.4-second time, it's going to generate some buzz. Griffin thinks he can.

"I think there's a possibility," Griffin said before acknowledging he'd gone under 4.4 in the 40-yard dash before.

Griffin ran track in high school (he owns a pile of Texas state records) and early in his career at Baylor (he set a Midwest Regional record for the 400-meter hurdles) so speed isn't an issue. Size is Griffin's issue; as CBSSports.com's Clark Judge pointed out in his recent combine preview, Griffin's measurements in the coming week are something to watch.

(The size versus speed thing is also why the RG3-Cam Newton comparisons are just silly. Newton's 6'5", 248 pounds. Griffin's 6'2" 220. If Newton could run a 4'4" he'd be Superman. Literally.)

But it's speed that will really cause teams to fall in love with Griffin. If he goes sub 4.4, the biggest winner is St. Louis, because the auction for that top pick is going to get hot and heavy.

Speaking of auctioning for Griffin's services, it's also worth noting that RG3 signed with Adidas. The shoe company announced the news on Tuesday and Griffin confirmed it on Patrick's show. And we dug up this first Adidas commercial with Griffin, who Adidas is wisely marketing as "RG III."

You know, what with their three-stripe logo and all.



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Comments

Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2012 5:06 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

the best running back duo and a top 5 offensive line like Carolina has.

Are you high? Williams was one of the biggest disappointments of 2011. The number 2 back, Stewart, outplayed him nearly every game. Shockey is no longer considered a pro bowl TE. How do you rate an offensive line in the top5? What is your criteria?



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: February 21, 2012 5:05 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

 Redskins can't mess around. RGIII has it all. From his upbringing, maturity, and skill set. Indy will regret taking Luck 1st overall. This is a guy who is (really) willing to sit & learn, or start from day one. The NFL will be a big adjustment for any quarterback, and the key w/RGIII is his maturity, and ability to avoid sacks/contact. A young quarterback w/maturity can avoid frustration (speed & difficulty of the game) & outside diversions (ex. booze, drugs & strippers). I doubt RGIII's career military parents raised an undisciplined fool. A good, stable family is also worth it's weight in gold. RGIII is Wally Cleaver on steroids (RGIII would never take real steroids, just a figure of speech). Bruce Allen get on the phone now, and start making the deal !



Since: Jun 17, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2012 4:43 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

The Giants o-line has been one of the best year in and year out for the past 4 years.  As a group, the core has been together for 6 years (Snee, Boothe, McKenzie...Baas was new this year).  
Mainly Because Eli has the ability to avoid sacks  sometimes to his detriment, he makes quick decisions. David Carr was fast but he held onto the ball way too long. Boothe is an undrafted free agent thats OK, and Will Beatty took Diehls job and gave it back but they weren't the same line they were in 07 and were dead last in running.


Baylor hadn't even been to a bowl since the 90s before RGIII showed up.  Potential does NOT equal talent or success.  It is "up and coming" because RGIII put them there.
Hence up and coming not just RGIII but even their basketball program has been good.


haven't seen RGIII at an NFL level yet, but, then again, no one has seen Andrew Luck at an NFL level, either, but everyone assumes he is the next Peyton Manning.  To me, RGIII has far more upsid
Andrew Luck is as close to a sure thing that there is on the NFL level, ever. Every scout says hes the best quarterback prospect in 30 years and has been lauded ever since HS. Plus his father was a QB and has the pedigree. All you have as an argument for RGIII is that he's fast and thats why you say he's going to be better. Teams will trade 3 1st round picks for Luck, How come they won't for RGIII???
 
 



Since: Dec 15, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2012 4:36 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

Mobile but not running quarterbacks. Elway won his titles as an old man, Steve Young was mostly a product of niner system and admitted he had to tone down his running and Brees as never been a running quarterback. I guarantee you that none of them cared about their 40 time.

Agree that they are all "mobile" QBs, not "running" QBs.  

None of them had also wone nationals in 400m hurdles, either.

I think the point is that, like Cam Newton last year, and Matt Jones a few years before that, and Reggie Bush, and many, many others, this guy has something that no one else available has.  Whether that talent shows up as success on the field is an entirely unknown proposition, but the fact that the potential is there is intriguing, to say the least.  Heck, we could make comparisons to Gale Sayers, who had a once in a generation talent in terms of speed and agility, but whos ability to take the "big hit" was questioned.

Again, I refer to the touchdowns>incompletions about a thrid of the way through the season.  The man can throw.  Will he be able to pull a JaMarcus Russell (grrrrrrr) and chuck the ball 70 yards downfield?  Probably not, but how did that work out for Russell?  (he is financially set, so I guess the better question is, "How did that work out for the Raiders?")      
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Since: Dec 15, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2012 4:26 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

I don't know what you are watching but Manning, Brady or Rodgers hasn't had good offensive lines. Rodgers had to get guys out of retirement when they won a championship and the Giants have had issues over the past few seasons and the Pats line has been mediocre at best.

The Giants o-line has been one of the best year in and year out for the past 4 years.  As a group, the core has been together for 6 years (Snee, Boothe, McKenzie...Baas was new this year).  Their issue this year was injuries and the fact that they couldn't create a running game to save their lives.  Barring a few exceptions, though, they kept Manning upright most of the time (they are, after all, a long-pass play action team).  Combined with the Manning Slide (which, apparently, is genetic in origin), and the Giants did alright for themselves in that category (I THINK they won some kind of game at the end of this past season).

The Pats o-line is considered one of the best in football, with multiple All-Pros.

Green Bay.....maybe not the best.  But Aaron Rogers is also more mobile.  Injuries also decimated their line this year.

Baylor is an up and coming program that has produced high first round picks over the last few years (Jason Smith, Phil Taylor, Danny Watkins) and has a number of NFL players on their roster that will be drafted and some high in the future.

Baylor hadn't even been to a bowl since the 90s before RGIII showed up.  Potential does NOT equal talent or success.  It is "up and coming" because RGIII put them there.

Now, granted, we haven't seen RGIII at an NFL level yet, but, then again, no one has seen Andrew Luck at an NFL level, either, but everyone assumes he is the next Peyton Manning.  To me, RGIII has far more upside.   You are correct on one thing: only time will tell for all players.  Could be The GOAT QB.  Could be Ryan Leaf or (shudder)  JaMarcus Russell (and I'm a HUGE LSU fan....).



Since: Jun 17, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2012 3:56 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

The days of standing there like a statue are pretty much gone, you're going to need some mobility. 
I can see that since my boy Eli Manning has won 2 Super bowl MVP's in the last 4 years but maybe he should sit down on the bench because he can't run a 4.4 



Since: Jun 17, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2012 3:51 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

Sanchez and Flacco also didn't have 2 probowl TE's, a top 5 receiver, the best running back duo and a top 5 offensive line like Carolina has.

 
Elway, Young, Rodgers, Roethlisberger and Brees are all "running" QBs, all have SB championships. The days of standing there like a statue are pretty much gone, you're going to need some mobility. 



Mobile but not running quarterbacks. Elway won his titles as an old man, Steve Young was mostly a product of niner system and admitted he had to tone down his running and Brees as never been a running quarterback. I guarantee you that none of them cared about their 40 time.



Since: Sep 25, 2009
Posted on: February 21, 2012 3:46 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

Running quarterbacks DONT win championships, so don't bring up speed because that is the last thing I want my quarterback to do is run and get hurt so my scrub backup comes in ala Curtis Painter.
Elway, Young, Rodgers, Roethlisberger and Brees are all "running" QBs, all have SB championships. The days of standing there like a statue are pretty much gone, you're going to need some mobility.





Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2012 3:13 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

As a matter of fact I am pretty sure that Sanchez and Flacco's defenses were rated in the top 10, maybe five their first years in the league opposed to Carolina's which ranked near the bottom last year. Cam's large numbers were more of a function of his teams awful defense and had to keep throwing the ball.



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: February 21, 2012 3:10 pm
 

RG3 probably won't throw at combine, wants 4.4 40

Flacco and Sanchez didn't play for a team that won 2 games the year before either.


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