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Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

Posted on: February 23, 2012 10:15 am
Edited on: February 23, 2012 10:28 am
 
Luck appears to be the future in Indy, the only question is when. (US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

The road to the first-overall pick isn't a smooth one. There's all the losing, the waning fan interest, the almost certain turnover on the coaching staff and the roster. But once the offseason arrives and the new faces are in place, hope is renewed.

Now that Colts fans seem to have accepted that Peyton Manning's best days are behind him and Andrew Luck is the future, there are reasons for optimism. Typically, the NFL Draft takes place on the last weekend of April, but the Colts, should they choose, can sign Luck (or any other draft-eligible player) as early as … Friday. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tells PFT that after a pair of coin flips locks in the draft order, Indianapolis can ink Luck to a contract.

NFL Draft prep
Greasing the skids: the new CBA includes a rookie wage scale which means that holdouts are much less likely since there isn't much to negotiate. One of the benefits to doing this sooner than later: it will officially close the book on the Manning era, something owner Jim Irsay is probably eager to do, and the focus would be on Luck, the Colts' next franchise quarterback.

(Then again, maybe Irsay wasn't joking when he said he "would love to have Manning back.")

Should Indy sign Luck before the draft, however, it doesn't mean that the Rams would immediately be on the clock with the No. 2 pick. Aiello explains that only the team holding the first-overall selection has that option.

This is good news for the Browns, Redskins and any other outfit in the market for Robert Griffin III, who is expected to go as high as second overall. It's also good news for the Rams because they'll be able to trade out of the pick and improve their roster in the process.

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Since: Mar 30, 2008
Posted on: February 23, 2012 1:30 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

Wasn't Ryan Leaf supposed to be the next best thing in '98. Kind of eery similarities between Leaf and Luck. Both left after their junior year (grant it, Luck was a redshirt), both played in the Pac-10, both averaged over 300 yards and 30+ plus touchdowns their junior year and they could pass as brothers a little in the face. I'm just saying that Leaf was "hyped up" also back in college. If Luck was so great, why didn't his college coach at the time (Harbaugh) convince him to go pro also. Beware Colts, follow your old tradition by passing on Leaf to take Manning and passing on Rickey Williams to take Edgerrin James.
OMG, again with this ridiculousness??? Let me clue you in on a FACT. Manning was the #1 ranked QB that year, and was expected to be drafted #1, so the Colts didn't pass on Leaf, they simply went with the #1 like they were expected to. So following your "old tradition", that is exactly what they should do with Luck, take him as the #1 ranked player at #1 in the draft. The guy that would be "Leaf" in this scenario is RG3, not Luck. This isn't just my opinion either. From the 1998 SI article just before that historic draft, this was written...

The weight of opinion in the NFL now says that Tennessee quarterback Peyton Manning is the clear choice, ahead of Leaf, as the No. 1 pick in the draft, which will be held on April 18 and 19. In the wake of a meteoric Rose Bowl season that sent his pro stock soaring, Leaf became a sort of joint entry with Manning. Discussion of one player rarely passed without mention of the other. There was little doubt that Manning and Leaf would be the top two draft picks; the issue was which would be selected by the Indianapolis Colts, who will choose first, and which would end up with the San Diego Chargers, who have the second selection.

But in the view of a six-man blue-ribbon panel that analyzed game tapes of the players for SI, Leaf doesn't rank as high as Manning. Each expert was asked: If you had to pick one of these players, whom would you take? With different degrees of conviction, each said Manning. Three said they would be shocked if the Colts didn't select him.

 Ryan Leaf had 1 good year where he made a Rose Bowl run. Andrew Luck went to back-to-back BCS games. Statistically, their careers are not even close! Just look at their career numbers...

Ryan Leaf
  • 32 games played (only 24 started)
  • 53.8 completion %
  • 7433 passing yards
  • 59 passing TDs
  • 24 interceptions
  • 141.4 passer rating
  • -171 rushing yards (yes, that is a negative number!)
  • 14 rushing TDs
Andrew Luck
  • 38 games played (started all 38)
  • 66.1 completion %
  • 9430 passing yards
  • 82 passing TDs
  • 21 interceptions
  • 161.1 passer rating
  • 957 rushing yards
  • 7 rushing TDs
Simply for comparison, here are Peyton Manning's college numbers:
  • 43 games played (started all 43)
  • 62.5 completion %
  • 11201 yards
  • 89 passing TDs
  • 33 interceptions
  • 147.1 passer rating
  • -181 rushing yards (yes, also negative)
  • 12 rushing TDs
Now conferences and eras are different for these three obviously, so the comparisons can't be 100% direct, but if I am being objective, I would say that Luck's college career is closer to Manning's than Leaf's. I would also conclude that Luck's career is the best in a majority categories compared to both others. Whatever anyone concludes on their own however, I think it is pretty safe to say that Luck and Leaf are comparable at all! Luck was much more accurate, took care of the ball much better and was vastly more mobile than Leaf was. 



Since: Aug 13, 2011
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:58 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

@TA79Bandit:
I understand where you are coming from with your post and I agree that quality interior lines are of extreme importance in the NFL, but all the "experts" keep saying that the NFL is a quarterback-driven league and I think it would be foolish for the Colts to pass on Luck if they decide not to keep Peyton (which I think will be their decision). Rebuilding the Colts will not be an overnight thing - or a one or two draft season thing, either. But starting with a quality replacement for Manning is the way to start.



Since: Jun 17, 2007
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:52 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

1)  I wonder if Jim Irsay, who counted on Polian all those years to build his team, really thinks he knows enough about football to make this choice? Has anyone considered the possibility that Luck could be a huge bust?  Let's see...  Leaf, Leinart, Sanchez (who's teammates want Manning, ironically), and Palmer just off the top of my head.  The Pac 10 has produced a lot of bust (Leaf/Leinart) or average QBs (Sanchez/Palmer). Certainly none of whom I'd trade for a healthy Peyton Manning.  I'm not dissing the Pac-10, but their style of football produces really good offensive stats. The SEC and Big 10 seem to produce the best QBs (The SEC had eight starting QBs in the NFL last year (not counting Manning) - among them Eli and Stafford) and the Big 10 produced Brees and Brady) All I'm saying, is everyone is making Luck a sure-fire Hall of Famer already, and odds are, he won't be anywhere near what Manning was/could still be.

2)  This year exposed the fact that the Colts are nothing without Peyton Manning. Now we all know that the four MVPs were well warranted and deserved. Do they really think that Andrew Luck, who will probably never be at Manning's level, will be able to make this team anything near what Manning helped it to become? Andrew Luck with the Colts defense and hardly a running game to speak of. Andrew Luck will have to throw, and only the truly great ones can throw every down and be successful.

3)  What about the pressure?  Andrew Luck is replacing THE FRANCHISE.  Sorry, Jim Irsay, the Horseshoe isn't bigger than Peyton Manning and you are about to learn that.  Wherever Peyton goes, most Colts fans will follow.  Peyton made the franchise - we are riding with Peyton. So, anything less than winning as much as Manning and looking as good doing it, will be a failure.  Imagine being Andrew Luck and having to step into "Peyton's Place" with all the expectations that are there, and with the added pressure of how all of this went down. Irsay basically took the keys from Manning and gave them to Luck.  Good "Luck" with that, Colts!

4)  Honestly, I've been watching the Colts since Manning was drafted, and I can't see this ending any way but ugly for the Colts.  They drop back into the pack of wanna-bes.  Peyton Manning will probably end up with a team where he can add to his already-HOF resume, and continue to play the game he enjoys with, more than likely, a better supporting cast!  And, I'm guessing Reggie Wayne is going wherever Peyton goes, not to mention the majority of the fans whom Peyton brought with him on Draft Day and throughout his career.  So, there you go!  Good job Jim Irsay. Everything that had been bestowed on Jim Irsay with Manning, he is about to throw away in one fell swoop.  The fans gone. The respect gone. Irsay looks a lot like his Dad when this is all said and done.



Since: Jun 24, 2010
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:43 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

No, they weren't only missing a QB...but, it's the most important position on the team.  Given the circumstances w/Manning, it makes sense to establish your new franchise QB.  You build your offense around that guy...and in this case, Luck's the best player to take over.  Agree they have a lot of needs...but you eliminate the QB position first and foremost.



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:36 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

coach, I agree with you that you can never count on the "next best thing".  If Manning had blown out his knee and was coming back this year I would agree that they should stick with Peyton, but he has had 4 neck surgeries, and because of his massive bonus and the draft, the Colts are forced to make this decision before they can get all the info on whether Manning can really ever play again.  So from that perspective, better to take the risk with the guy who could be your franchise for the next 10-15 years than with the guy who might retire tomorrow, and will likely have about 3 years left in him best case.  It sucks for Peyton.  I usually side with the player on these things, but I think unfortunately the Colts are making the right move here.  I can't believe that Wayne would stay without Manning either.  My guess is he goes to the "enemy" and starts catching passes from Brady.



Since: Apr 26, 2007
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:34 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

Wasn't Ryan Leaf supposed to be the next best thing in '98. Kind of eery similarities between Leaf and Luck. Both left after their junior year (grant it, Luck was a redshirt), both played in the Pac-10, both averaged over 300 yards and 30+ plus touchdowns their junior year and they could pass as brothers a little in the face. I'm just saying that Leaf was "hyped up" also back in college. If Luck was so great, why didn't his college coach at the time (Harbaugh) convince him to go pro also. Beware Colts, follow your old tradition by passing on Leaf to take Manning and passing on Rickey Williams to take Edgerrin James.




Since: Feb 23, 2012
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:27 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

I thought the Colts hired Bruce Arians on Jan 30th to be there offensive coordinator or did I get that wrong. Who knows, Ryan Wilson might not be the real IDIOT here.



Since: Dec 11, 2006
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:26 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

By pushing #18 out of the way for the "Next Great Thing", (wish I had a dollar for every time I've heard that phrase) the Karma Train is steaming towards Indy! Hey Jim Irsay, remember what the Colts were like before Peyton? If not, you'll be reminded soon enough because that's where you're headed again. While watching last season, it seemed to me that Indy needs A LOT MORE than a new QB. But hand the reigns to an inexperienced QB on a team in need of so much rebuilding that it might as well be an expansion team. I have rooted for the "Horseshoe" for the very last time. Apparently, the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree-as another Irsay alienates Colts fans AGAIN! And stop trying to make Peyton the bad guy. This decision is yours alone.

Hoping #18 is healthy and ready to return to his H of F career in a new town. How about him and Reggie Wayne go as a package deal to Miami? Peyton will need someone to show him around anyways.

Here's to wishing Peyton the best....and the exact opposite for Irsay and his Hoseshoe!



Since: Jan 26, 2011
Posted on: February 23, 2012 12:08 pm
 

Colts could sign Luck as soon as Friday

I feel the same way about rooting for the old gunslingers who move onto new teams and try to go out in a blaze of glory after their original teams push them aside for the next young buck who catches their eye.


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Since: Feb 23, 2012
Posted on: February 23, 2012 11:51 am
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