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Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

Posted on: February 27, 2012 11:59 am
 
Poe ran a 4.87 in his first attempt at the 40 on Monday. (US Presswire)
By Josh Katzowitz

We told you earlier about Bruce Irvin, the defensive lineman/outside linebacker who ran an unofficial 4.43 in the 40 as a 245-pounder. Defensive tackle Dontari Poe, out of Memphis, might have managed to top that in terms of other-worldly feats.

After bench-pressing 225 pounds 44 times -- the most of any combine participant this year (though it was five reps short of the all-time record set by Stephen Paea) -- the 346-pounder ran an unofficial 4.87 in his first attempt at the 40 (he went 4.94 in his second attempt).

The fact a guy who weighs that much can be that strong and that fast is fairly ridiculous. As NFL.com’s Jeff Darlington writes, "RG(3)'s 4.41 40 is proportionate to a 346-lb man running it in 6.84 secs. And Poe (at 346 lbs) just did it in 4.87 secs.”

Poe is the 27th-ranked prospect in the NFLDraftScout.com rankings, and in his mock draft, Rob Rang projects Poe to go to the Bengals while the 21st pick, while Dane Brugler has him going to the Steelers at No. 24.

With a performance like today, though, Poe might have catapulted himself into the top-15.

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Since: Nov 12, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:18 am
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

There's a whole lot of love on is board for a guy who just didn't produce all that much against average competition.  He faced double teams, but all of the better players do.  There's a huge difference between quickness in the box and speed, and a DT/NT needs quickness in the box more than straight-line speed.  Maybe Poe has that also, but it didn't translate into plays in the backfield in Conference USA.  I'm also wondering why he never learned to lower his pad level, instead getting pushed back by smaller OL who understood leverage.  I suppose that can be coached, but I wonder why it wasn't already.

Poe's always been projected as the first NT taken, and first or second DT.  I don't think his 40 time is going to change his draft position much since I'm pretty sure he won't be returning punts and kickoffs. 



Since: Aug 10, 2011
Posted on: February 28, 2012 9:46 am
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

A solid performance at the NFL combine does not equate to a solid NFL career.  That being said, this guy is a stud!  Being that big, strong, and fast is at the very least a good starting point.  If this kid is even the slightest bit coachable, he should do well in the NFL. 



Since: Oct 23, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 9:44 am
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

Here is to hoping the Colts grab Luck with the first overall pick, then possibly trade next year's 1 and another pick to move back into the first round to grab Poe. With the Colts beginning the switch to a 3-4 (although they have admitted it will take time since they have NO players that fit the system currently, this is the type of guy to fill the middle of the line for years to come and to build a new defense around. If the Colts are able to make some draft trades and come out of the draft with Luck and Poe, then the draft will be a huge success.



Since: Aug 18, 2011
Posted on: February 28, 2012 4:32 am
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

The 40 was initially timed to see how well players could cover punts.  I don't think any teams will be having him cover punts, so it is irrelevant.  I remember when Casey Hampton couldn't pass the Steelers running test one training camp, then made the Pro Bowl that season.  People have to understand what skills are important for each position.  Most combine numbers are meaningless for most players, but some are very important for a few positions.  It's mostly just a spectacle and it gives coaches and scouts a chance to watch the players work out habits and how they participate in drills.



Since: Dec 4, 2011
Posted on: February 27, 2012 9:17 pm
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

While some here are suggesting that the 40 yard dash doesn't translate into performance on the field, you might be right, but remember: this is probably the workout that best displays the commonly required physical characteristics of a player in broad terms. Not everything, but something to begin with.



Since: Jul 22, 2011
Posted on: February 27, 2012 7:47 pm
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

Poe maybe the best DL in this Draft.  I watched the Combine and he is
perhaps now a top 15 pick. He will be a game changer in the NFL over a long
period of time. He seems very clean and a dream to coach. SEC schools may have
missed him but NFL scouts have seen what he can do. You watch him play on game
tapes and you think he is playing against lower caliber OL. He would have been
superior in the SEC or any big conference. With his speed he fits into a 4 3 and
you can use cover LB's. Poe is a GAME CHANGER!




Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: February 27, 2012 3:36 pm
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

Combine don't alwaya convert to on thefield performance, but if all the experts are saying he's so smooth and his numbers show it at what point can we believe walks like a duck, talks like a duck...it must be a duck...From all the stuff I've seen, I think the Chiefs if they don't go QB either peyton or RG3 then they should go after this guy and he'd be a perfect nosetackle for the future...and maybe sign Soliai and a D-Line in a 3-4 where two of the 3 are poe and soliai that could be a very strong combo.  If they QB especially Peyton then they need to go RT in the Draft...to replace Barry Richardson who's gods aweful. 



Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: February 27, 2012 3:29 pm
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

It's nice to be a great athlete, but it's nicer to be a great football player.  When will they figure out that the two are not synonymous?
The reality is that most teams understand that.  And by most I mean eveyone except the Raiders.  You have to understand that scouts are not trying to see how good of a football player these guys are now, they are trying to see how good they can be.  And there are some things that can't be taught, like speed and strength (to a point, that is).  Teams may want to gamble on athletic players and hope they pick up on the finer points of the game with training.  If a player was a total gamer in college and doesn't shock at the combine, they still get picked highly most of the time.  Just look at Aldon Smith of the 49ers, who did not impress at the combine.

 The reason this gets blown out of proportion every bloody year is that writers want to report every little inane detail of the combine because it is a brief flurry of activity in the dead of the offseason.  And then, to further capitalize on this, the feature writers chime in showing us how sage they are by telling us that. "you know, combine numbers don't mean everything.  Tom Brady had terrible numbers"  as if every team in the league (save the Raiders) did not completely understand that.  Of course, some of these same guys turn around and figure combine numbers heavily into their evaluation of the draft.  Prisco totally panned the Niners for taking Aldon Smith because he was slow and too short at the combine.  All he did was get a sniff away from the rookie sack record.



Since: Feb 22, 2008
Posted on: February 27, 2012 3:28 pm
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

It's nice to be a great athlete, but it's nicer to be a great football player.  When will they figure out that the two are not synonymous?
The reality is that most teams understand that.  And by most I mean eveyone except the Raiders.  You have to understand that scouts are not trying to see how good of a football player these guys are now, they are trying to see how good they can be.  And there are some things that can't be taught, like speed and strength (to a point, that is).  Teams may want to gamble on athletic players and hope they pick up on the finer points of the game with training.  If a player was a total gamer in college and doesn't shock at the combine, they still get picked highly most of the time.  Just look at Aldon Smith of the 49ers, who did not impress at the combine.

 The reason this gets blown out of proportion every bloody year is that writers want to report every little inane detail of the combine because it is a brief flurry of activity in the dead of the offseason.  And then, to further capitalize on this, the feature writers chime in showing us how sage they are by telling us that. "you know, combine numbers don't mean everything.  Tom Brady had terrible numbers"  as if every team in the league (save the Raiders) did not completely understand that.  Of course, some of these same guys turn around and figure combine numbers heavily into their evaluation of the draft.  Prisco totally panned the Niners for taking Aldon Smith because he was slow and too short at the combine.  All he did was get a sniff away from the rookie sack record.



Since: Oct 25, 2007
Posted on: February 27, 2012 2:53 pm
 

Dontari Poe posts eye-popping combine numbers

Can't believe that combine numbers have become the beast they have.  Fast and strong is great, how about translating that into a little on the field performance during your career?  Tom Brady's numbers at his combine were putrid and assuredly contributed to him lasting until the 6th round, wonder how many clock watchers lost their jobs over that one.  It's nice to be a great athlete, but it's nicer to be a great football player.  When will they figure out that the two are not synonymous?


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