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Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Posted on: February 27, 2012 7:22 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 2:10 am
The RG3 sweepstakes gains momentum after the combine. (Getty Images, US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

The NFL Draft is two months off, but this much is certain: some team in desperate need of a franchise quarterback will trade up to the No. 2 spot and take Robert Griffin III, which was confirmed by NFL Insider Pat Kirwan. This is great news for the Rams, who currently own the second pick. While St. Louis has its own franchise quarterback in Sam Bradford, they have plenty of other needs.

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On Friday,'s Mike Freeman wrote about Griffin's future, noting that "League sources maintain at least three teams are strongly considering moving up in a blockbuster deal with the Rams to snag Griffin. Those teams, sources say, include Washington, Miami and Seattle. Team officials also say Cleveland has interest in trading up, though not as much as other teams." 

Freeman added that "It will likely take two No. 1 picks (at least) to make that trade, and the reason is some teams view Griffin as similarly talented as Luck or such a close facsimile in terms of potential that the difference isn't a great one."

RG3 had a nice showing at the combine and in Peter King's "Monday Morning Quarterback" column he writes that "The Rams will drive a hard bargain. Cleveland (fourth overall pick), Washington (sixth) and Miami (eighth) will be in the derby to move up; Seattle (12) and a couple of mystery teams could be, too. Add the fact that the money involved (four years, about $22 million) is likely to be less than the money paid to the top (current) free agent Matt Flynn, and the market for Griffin will be hopping."

That last point can't be emphasized enough. Right or wrong, Flynn's getting paid, just like Kevin Kolb did last year. If teams truly are sold on RG3's potential, then the new CBA means that trading up, by itself, isn't cost prohibitive -- although that could change based on the Rams' asking price. (ESPN's Adam Schefter tweeted Monday night that the Rams could get a deal similar to what the Chargers got for Eli Manning in 2004: two first-rounders, a third-rounder, and a fifth-rounder.)

A possible monkey wrench for teams not located in DC: the Redskins have a history of overpaying for talent, although they've been much better about it in recent years. Still, we liken owner Daniel Snyder's approach to player personnel to that of a prospective homebuyer who waives the home inspection and offers $40,000 over asking. It's a no-holds barred approach that ultimately doesn't work -- in real estate or for the 'Skins.

But the heart wants what the heart wants. And if Snyder is convinced that RG3 is the answer in Washington, we wouldn't be surprised if he had a roster-building relapse. Other potential suitors would be priced out of the bidding, which is great news for the Rams. Still, even if the 'Skins show restraint in the race for RG3, St. Louis should benefit.

"The whole paradigm has changed in several ways,'' Rams COO Kevin Demoff told King Saturday night. "Griffin could be cheaper than Flynn. The fact that you can get a potential franchise quarterback for what the top picks are paid now makes it easier to justify trading a lot for it.''

And fear not, RG3 sweepstakes losers.'s Pete Prisco tweets an important point:

For teams that might rush to trade up to No. 2 to get Griffin, just remember Matt Barkley and other QBs will be in next year's draft.
2/27/12 5:59 PM

The problem, of course, is that there's no guarantee that those quarterback-needy teams in range of RG3 this offseason will have similar opportunities to draft Barkley a year from now. That risk has to be weighed against the cost of getting Griffin now, as well as exploring other options, like trying to sign Flynn.

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Since: Nov 18, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 12:04 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

galf- smells like dan snyder should be dialing

Since: Apr 28, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 12:02 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Don't be blinded by Cam Newton, RG3 isn't Cam. The Rams will be laughing all the way to the bank on this one. A couple of high picks to put around their core and they will do just fine. I feel sorry for the team that gets this kid and finds (3 years from now) out he just isn't what they wanted.

Since: Oct 17, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:52 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

What a mistake the Rams are making.  Sam Bradford is a nice kid and Jeff Fisher is a nice coach.  And "nice" just about sums up the next 10 years in St. Louis.  Unfortunately the mark of Super Bowl franchises has been their ability to take risks and go against the grain.  The Rams will regret not picking Griffin.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:52 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Antz, I'm not sure that Flynn is a step up over McCoy.  At least not for the money it's going to cost.  I've despised McCoy since he was in college, but I think that he's more than capable to win if they give him a better supporting cast.  If you don't have anyone to hand off to or throw to or block for you, you don't get much of a chance to show what you can do.

Since: Mar 5, 2010
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:47 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

On the surface, this is completely logical for St. Louis. RG stock is booming. Someone should be desparate for a QB of his potential. Rams are in a good spot to host the auction. It will be interesting to see how it plays out for everyone involved. Let the fun (and jockeying for postion) begin.

Since: Aug 17, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:45 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

To the chickenfan bashers:

His point is that we are here reading an article about teams' potential desires to trade up and get RG3, and it got spun in to argument about race.  That's what's stupid.  So I guess I'll chime in too.

The vast majority of QBs have been white.  The vast majority of RBs have been black.  The vast majority of WRs have been black.  So it doesn't take a rocket scientist to conclude that a white QB and black RBs and WRs have a good chance of winning a Super Bowl.  That's what almost every team looks like.  That's not scouting, that's statistics.  If there is one black starting QB in the league, and only one black QB has won the Super Bowl in the last thirty years, then that's statistically correct.

What's stupid is to say that RG3 won't do it because he's black.  What IS stupid is to say that Donovan McNabb didn't do it because he's black. 

Tom Brady and Drew Brees and Peyton Manning are great because they are great.  Not because they are white.

Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:44 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

The Browns, now, are better off staying at #4 and taking the risk on Matt Flynn and just making their team better overall with the two first rounders they have now.  It's really not worth them to deal those away to the Rams as it would be a REALLY GREAT deal for the Rams.  I do think now that the Redskins have the best chance to get RGIII since they have the #6 pick.  I just hope they don't mortgage the future for a QB...we have a lot of needs as well before we can even think about contending.

Since: Aug 8, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:41 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

NFCEASTFAN, you are an idiot. A white QB is part of the formula for success? First, that's racist to say that the ethnicity of anyone affects winning percentage. That's like saying the New York Knicks will never win a championship because nobody has won a championship with a Chinese-American on their team. Or like saying I've never been attacked by a polar bear because my shoes repell them. The events are not correlated. Second, you are judging "success" on Super Bowl championships. Who would you say the WORST quarterbacks are and are part of the formula for having the worst teams in the history of the NFL? Ryan Leaf was white, whoever they started in Miami was white, the unvictorious Tampa Bay team had a white QB, the Cleveland Browns with Colt McCoy, Matt Leinert, Koy Detmer, the list of terrible teams with white QB's goes on and on. If I were you, I'd be thanking Andy Reid for providing you with Donnovan McNabb and Michael Vick instead of Jon Kitna and Jay Fiedler.

Since: Dec 7, 2011
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:38 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

the rams may be a team that jumps into the second tier after a few years. i say that because this is a good decision, which i something they havent done the last couple of years. that was a good article, stting the pros of trading up. you can get a good player and n ot have to pay 50 mil for an unproven talent. to merg3 has the taent.( exceptional athelete) and the temperment to be a better than average qb in the nfl. if you can put together a good team an above average qb can get you far in the palyoffs, it not to the super bowl.

Since: Aug 29, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:35 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Wiki- I got that from 61% of NFL players are black, 1.7% Samoan and Latino....

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