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Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Posted on: February 27, 2012 7:22 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 2:10 am
The RG3 sweepstakes gains momentum after the combine. (Getty Images, US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

The NFL Draft is two months off, but this much is certain: some team in desperate need of a franchise quarterback will trade up to the No. 2 spot and take Robert Griffin III, which was confirmed by NFL Insider Pat Kirwan. This is great news for the Rams, who currently own the second pick. While St. Louis has its own franchise quarterback in Sam Bradford, they have plenty of other needs.

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On Friday,'s Mike Freeman wrote about Griffin's future, noting that "League sources maintain at least three teams are strongly considering moving up in a blockbuster deal with the Rams to snag Griffin. Those teams, sources say, include Washington, Miami and Seattle. Team officials also say Cleveland has interest in trading up, though not as much as other teams." 

Freeman added that "It will likely take two No. 1 picks (at least) to make that trade, and the reason is some teams view Griffin as similarly talented as Luck or such a close facsimile in terms of potential that the difference isn't a great one."

RG3 had a nice showing at the combine and in Peter King's "Monday Morning Quarterback" column he writes that "The Rams will drive a hard bargain. Cleveland (fourth overall pick), Washington (sixth) and Miami (eighth) will be in the derby to move up; Seattle (12) and a couple of mystery teams could be, too. Add the fact that the money involved (four years, about $22 million) is likely to be less than the money paid to the top (current) free agent Matt Flynn, and the market for Griffin will be hopping."

That last point can't be emphasized enough. Right or wrong, Flynn's getting paid, just like Kevin Kolb did last year. If teams truly are sold on RG3's potential, then the new CBA means that trading up, by itself, isn't cost prohibitive -- although that could change based on the Rams' asking price. (ESPN's Adam Schefter tweeted Monday night that the Rams could get a deal similar to what the Chargers got for Eli Manning in 2004: two first-rounders, a third-rounder, and a fifth-rounder.)

A possible monkey wrench for teams not located in DC: the Redskins have a history of overpaying for talent, although they've been much better about it in recent years. Still, we liken owner Daniel Snyder's approach to player personnel to that of a prospective homebuyer who waives the home inspection and offers $40,000 over asking. It's a no-holds barred approach that ultimately doesn't work -- in real estate or for the 'Skins.

But the heart wants what the heart wants. And if Snyder is convinced that RG3 is the answer in Washington, we wouldn't be surprised if he had a roster-building relapse. Other potential suitors would be priced out of the bidding, which is great news for the Rams. Still, even if the 'Skins show restraint in the race for RG3, St. Louis should benefit.

"The whole paradigm has changed in several ways,'' Rams COO Kevin Demoff told King Saturday night. "Griffin could be cheaper than Flynn. The fact that you can get a potential franchise quarterback for what the top picks are paid now makes it easier to justify trading a lot for it.''

And fear not, RG3 sweepstakes losers.'s Pete Prisco tweets an important point:

For teams that might rush to trade up to No. 2 to get Griffin, just remember Matt Barkley and other QBs will be in next year's draft.
2/27/12 5:59 PM

The problem, of course, is that there's no guarantee that those quarterback-needy teams in range of RG3 this offseason will have similar opportunities to draft Barkley a year from now. That risk has to be weighed against the cost of getting Griffin now, as well as exploring other options, like trying to sign Flynn.

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Since: Feb 3, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 8:46 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

On what planet do the Rams trade RG3 to a division rival, CBS?  Take Carroll's pic down please.

Since: Feb 9, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 8:37 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

If you are the Rams, why not trade Sam Bradford and draft RG3?

Bradford is hurt every year but still has some value. And you would probably be saving on salary with the new rules. You would not get as much in return for him but RG3 seems special and unlike Bradford, durable.

Since: Aug 22, 2007
Posted on: February 29, 2012 8:08 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Saying Warren Moon was the best to play the game is just plain ignorant.  He wasn't even a top 5 QB when he played the game.  He was playing at the same time Jim Kelly, Joe Montana, Dan Marino and John Elway played....those names in themselves DESTROY WARREN MOON!!!!!!  I'm certain someone could quickly mention a name I missed that is an NFL GREAT that played during this time as well.

Since: Sep 7, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 12:43 am

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

You bring up a point that has always bothered me about the left, though; this overprotective tendency that winds up defining people by their differences almost as much as would bigots. Even my friends do this sometimes. Two have commented on my avatar in commending tones, as if it's brave of me to have a black QB as my avatar. Moon is my avatar because - IMHO - he was perhaps the greatest QB ever to play the game, and until they moved, the Oilers were my favorite team (may Bud Adams eat Taco Bell and be chained to a toilet for a year). It had nothing to do with the ground he broke, though I admire him for that, too.
It's not just the left.  I've noticed that alot of right-wingers gravitate to the articulate black athletes just to prove they aren't racist like say Skip Bayless or etc etc.  Take McNabb, he was a good quarterback in his prime.  Maybe even very good.  He wasn't a superstar. You'll notice McNabb had countless odd supporters in his corner, which was IMHO due to the reasons stated above. I thought some of what Limbaugh actually said was accurate- at least when discussing Mcnabb's actual performance and the media's desire to create an Immortal Hero for racial reasons.  But of course, that discussion couldn't be had due to the Ad Hominem dynamic associated with the source.

Now, Limbaugh is an idiot, and once again, there was no need to classify McNabb as anything more than a Quarterback, but he was obviously stirring the pot with a hot button political discussion, because well, that's what he does.  I'd like to see Griffin viewed as a quarterback and not a Black Quarterback.  It does nothing to promote assimilation by categorizing him as anything else.

What the media did to McNabb in an attempt to "help" the cause only polarized and drew more insensitivity.  Long story short, rambling aside, nobody does anybody any favors by qualifying players by race or holding one to a lesser standard.  If the guy is good, say he's good, but if he's bad, tear him to shreds and don't let race be a factor in the assessment.

Since: Aug 11, 2010
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:42 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

I am aching for real football news. Free agency cannot get here fast enough. BTW don't be surprised if that MLB Tulloch from Detroit ends up in Philly.


Since: Feb 28, 2012
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:36 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

It goes to show that it costs nothing to DREAM BIG!!!

Since: Jun 29, 2011
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:29 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

It will be interesting to see who trades up to the No. 2 spot, and what they give up for it.

Since: Aug 11, 2010
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:12 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Only cigy butts! However, I have learned to never put anything past Andy Ried and the Eagles front office. Reference the Kolb deal last year. We always get something for nothing. Look at the facts.#1... the Rams don't have a CB and Samuel will fill the need quite nicely #2...Samuel is worth 2-2nd round picks add up the value of the 15th pick  3-2nd rounders and a 3rd rounder and you get the value of the #2 pick. #3...Rogers-Cromartie is a better cover CB in the Eagles system than Samuel. Truth be told I think that the obvious course of action is for the Birds to select Kuechly with the 15th pick...BUT the Eagles NEVER do what you expect. God I need to go outside and have a cigarette!

Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:06 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

loyusmaglite: Did you watch Bradford play last year?
I did. He looked jumpy and scared and not at all like he did the year prior. Perhaps because:
Whoever plays QB for the Rams in the immediate future better not have lead feet behind that weak OL.
Give the kid a break. His team was just awful, and that O-line made David Carr piss himself, remembering what he'd gone through - and he didn't play for the Rams. Bradford's only weapon was the overpriced, overrated Brandon Lloyd, a career journeyman who was made into a star by Kyle Orton and a pass-first, pass-always Broncos philosophy. Maybe give it another year or so before dumping the #1 overall pick and all those millions. It's not like he's JaMarcus Russell or Ryan Leaf. He had a rough year.

Since: Sep 30, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2012 10:12 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

and what is that you are smokin???

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