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Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Posted on: February 27, 2012 7:22 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 2:10 am
The RG3 sweepstakes gains momentum after the combine. (Getty Images, US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

The NFL Draft is two months off, but this much is certain: some team in desperate need of a franchise quarterback will trade up to the No. 2 spot and take Robert Griffin III, which was confirmed by NFL Insider Pat Kirwan. This is great news for the Rams, who currently own the second pick. While St. Louis has its own franchise quarterback in Sam Bradford, they have plenty of other needs.

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On Friday,'s Mike Freeman wrote about Griffin's future, noting that "League sources maintain at least three teams are strongly considering moving up in a blockbuster deal with the Rams to snag Griffin. Those teams, sources say, include Washington, Miami and Seattle. Team officials also say Cleveland has interest in trading up, though not as much as other teams." 

Freeman added that "It will likely take two No. 1 picks (at least) to make that trade, and the reason is some teams view Griffin as similarly talented as Luck or such a close facsimile in terms of potential that the difference isn't a great one."

RG3 had a nice showing at the combine and in Peter King's "Monday Morning Quarterback" column he writes that "The Rams will drive a hard bargain. Cleveland (fourth overall pick), Washington (sixth) and Miami (eighth) will be in the derby to move up; Seattle (12) and a couple of mystery teams could be, too. Add the fact that the money involved (four years, about $22 million) is likely to be less than the money paid to the top (current) free agent Matt Flynn, and the market for Griffin will be hopping."

That last point can't be emphasized enough. Right or wrong, Flynn's getting paid, just like Kevin Kolb did last year. If teams truly are sold on RG3's potential, then the new CBA means that trading up, by itself, isn't cost prohibitive -- although that could change based on the Rams' asking price. (ESPN's Adam Schefter tweeted Monday night that the Rams could get a deal similar to what the Chargers got for Eli Manning in 2004: two first-rounders, a third-rounder, and a fifth-rounder.)

A possible monkey wrench for teams not located in DC: the Redskins have a history of overpaying for talent, although they've been much better about it in recent years. Still, we liken owner Daniel Snyder's approach to player personnel to that of a prospective homebuyer who waives the home inspection and offers $40,000 over asking. It's a no-holds barred approach that ultimately doesn't work -- in real estate or for the 'Skins.

But the heart wants what the heart wants. And if Snyder is convinced that RG3 is the answer in Washington, we wouldn't be surprised if he had a roster-building relapse. Other potential suitors would be priced out of the bidding, which is great news for the Rams. Still, even if the 'Skins show restraint in the race for RG3, St. Louis should benefit.

"The whole paradigm has changed in several ways,'' Rams COO Kevin Demoff told King Saturday night. "Griffin could be cheaper than Flynn. The fact that you can get a potential franchise quarterback for what the top picks are paid now makes it easier to justify trading a lot for it.''

And fear not, RG3 sweepstakes losers.'s Pete Prisco tweets an important point:

For teams that might rush to trade up to No. 2 to get Griffin, just remember Matt Barkley and other QBs will be in next year's draft.
2/27/12 5:59 PM

The problem, of course, is that there's no guarantee that those quarterback-needy teams in range of RG3 this offseason will have similar opportunities to draft Barkley a year from now. That risk has to be weighed against the cost of getting Griffin now, as well as exploring other options, like trying to sign Flynn.

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Since: Aug 11, 2010
Posted on: February 28, 2012 9:31 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Eagles shock the world!!! Asante Samuel, #15 pick in the 1st 2nd and 3rd rounds to the Rams for the #2 pick. Instant heir aparent to MV. MV wins his SB in 2012 and The Eagles recoup thier 1st rd pick in trade for Vick at seasons end. RGIII leads the Birds in back to back SBs in 2013.

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Since: Apr 21, 2011
Posted on: February 28, 2012 8:55 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

loyusmaglite: Did you watch Bradford play last year? He was certainly not a franchise QB. Not even close. Whoever plays QB for the Rams in the immediate future better not have lead feet behind that weak OL.

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Since: Oct 5, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 8:53 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

I'm still curious about Bradford - I see sparks but no fire so far.  I understand they need a team around this guy so this might be the best approach to getting what he needs.  However if he becomes a flop then this will be looked at as a botched draft.  I like Griffin a lot - before these fraud combines - but I think the Rams are making the right decision.  Get as many draft choices as you can and pile on the picks for whoever wants Griffin.

I think that Miami would fit him perfect but he'll be gone before then. 

I think Griffin will be a top 10 by year 5 - I think he is that good and just needs some NFL coaching, and as long as he sticks to it.

Since: Jul 9, 2010
Posted on: February 28, 2012 8:46 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

'Skins please show restraint! Bruce Allen should look Snyder in a closet for a couple months and do the right thing. That is, rebuild the correct way, through the draft and a combination of smart free agent pick ups. RG3 would make Washington better, but 2 #1's and a #3 better? I don't think so. They need a top receiver, o-line help, a steady safety, younger LB's, etc. Let Allen take his time, they've suffered for years under the Snyder approach, suffer one more year and wait for Barkley!

Since: May 29, 2011
Posted on: February 28, 2012 7:45 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick


Since: Feb 25, 2009
Posted on: February 28, 2012 7:26 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

To be honest, Indy should be doing the same thing with #1 right now.  Simple supply and demand.
I disagree. The Rams have a lot invested in a guy they still believe is a franchise QB. The Colts are staring down the barrell of a life without Peyton Manning. We all remember how he ended up in Indy, don't we? This time is no different. They have a shot at a highly-rated QB, and they should take it. I mean, if they were sitting behind Cleveland, Washington, Seattle, or Miami in the draft and had no chance at Luck or Griffin, they might be wise to shop their pick for that handful of players and take a shot at Barkley or someone like him next year. But they're in the same position they were in '98, and given their success, I can think of no earthly reason why they shouldn't gladly pull the trigger.

Since: Sep 17, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 7:18 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Every year, on average, about 2 really good QB's emerge from the draft. Of course there are exceptions, busts and mid-late round surprises but generally speaking, there are about 2 guys that are franchise calibur prospects each year and the vast majority are 1st round picks. This is why QB's tend to go early and sometimes get overvalued because of the importance of the position (Gabbert and Ponder's stock rising last year, for example). In recent history, Andy Dalton with one solid year is already the most successful 2nd round QB not named Drew Brees (who only missed being a 1st rounder by 1 pick) which indicates that if you sleep on QB's when you are desperate for one, chances are that a 2nd tier prospect succeeding as a franchise guy are greatly diminished. I'm not saying someone like Brandon Weeden isn't a good player and he'll certainly be backing someone up next year but realistically, no one is going to build a team around him. The obvious standouts are Luck and RG3 and with so many teams so desperate to find their future cornerstone, St. Louis will make off like robber barons in a trade but one that I think is utterly necessary if you're Cleveland, Miami, Washington or Seattle.

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