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Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Posted on: February 27, 2012 7:22 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 2:10 am
The RG3 sweepstakes gains momentum after the combine. (Getty Images, US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

The NFL Draft is two months off, but this much is certain: some team in desperate need of a franchise quarterback will trade up to the No. 2 spot and take Robert Griffin III, which was confirmed by NFL Insider Pat Kirwan. This is great news for the Rams, who currently own the second pick. While St. Louis has its own franchise quarterback in Sam Bradford, they have plenty of other needs.

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On Friday,'s Mike Freeman wrote about Griffin's future, noting that "League sources maintain at least three teams are strongly considering moving up in a blockbuster deal with the Rams to snag Griffin. Those teams, sources say, include Washington, Miami and Seattle. Team officials also say Cleveland has interest in trading up, though not as much as other teams." 

Freeman added that "It will likely take two No. 1 picks (at least) to make that trade, and the reason is some teams view Griffin as similarly talented as Luck or such a close facsimile in terms of potential that the difference isn't a great one."

RG3 had a nice showing at the combine and in Peter King's "Monday Morning Quarterback" column he writes that "The Rams will drive a hard bargain. Cleveland (fourth overall pick), Washington (sixth) and Miami (eighth) will be in the derby to move up; Seattle (12) and a couple of mystery teams could be, too. Add the fact that the money involved (four years, about $22 million) is likely to be less than the money paid to the top (current) free agent Matt Flynn, and the market for Griffin will be hopping."

That last point can't be emphasized enough. Right or wrong, Flynn's getting paid, just like Kevin Kolb did last year. If teams truly are sold on RG3's potential, then the new CBA means that trading up, by itself, isn't cost prohibitive -- although that could change based on the Rams' asking price. (ESPN's Adam Schefter tweeted Monday night that the Rams could get a deal similar to what the Chargers got for Eli Manning in 2004: two first-rounders, a third-rounder, and a fifth-rounder.)

A possible monkey wrench for teams not located in DC: the Redskins have a history of overpaying for talent, although they've been much better about it in recent years. Still, we liken owner Daniel Snyder's approach to player personnel to that of a prospective homebuyer who waives the home inspection and offers $40,000 over asking. It's a no-holds barred approach that ultimately doesn't work -- in real estate or for the 'Skins.

But the heart wants what the heart wants. And if Snyder is convinced that RG3 is the answer in Washington, we wouldn't be surprised if he had a roster-building relapse. Other potential suitors would be priced out of the bidding, which is great news for the Rams. Still, even if the 'Skins show restraint in the race for RG3, St. Louis should benefit.

"The whole paradigm has changed in several ways,'' Rams COO Kevin Demoff told King Saturday night. "Griffin could be cheaper than Flynn. The fact that you can get a potential franchise quarterback for what the top picks are paid now makes it easier to justify trading a lot for it.''

And fear not, RG3 sweepstakes losers.'s Pete Prisco tweets an important point:

For teams that might rush to trade up to No. 2 to get Griffin, just remember Matt Barkley and other QBs will be in next year's draft.
2/27/12 5:59 PM

The problem, of course, is that there's no guarantee that those quarterback-needy teams in range of RG3 this offseason will have similar opportunities to draft Barkley a year from now. That risk has to be weighed against the cost of getting Griffin now, as well as exploring other options, like trying to sign Flynn.

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Since: Jan 6, 2012
Posted on: February 28, 2012 4:53 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

"The NFL Draft is two months off, but this much is certain: some team in desperate need of a franchise quarterback will trade up to the No. 2 spot and take Robert Griffin III, which was confirmed by NFL Insider Pat Kirwan."

So do tell how Kirwan was able to confirm this? Did the GM of some team go up and tell Kirwin, or did Kirwin simply report on a speculative rumor?  Probably the latter. Then this putz Ryan Wilson reports the "speculation" as news that was confirmed by Kirwin. Since when did Kirwin's speculation become fact? The speculation may prove to be true....but it is NOT A FACT that some team will trade up to #2 for QB. This report is irresponsible and is not based on any FACTS.

Since: Apr 23, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 4:47 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

White quarterbacks starting in Super Bowl- Bart Starr (2), Len Dawson (2), Daryle Lamonica, Joe Namath, Earl Morrall (2), Joe Kapp, Craig Morton (2), Roger Staubach (4), Bob Griese (3), Billy Kilmer, Fran Tarkenton (3), Terry Bradshaw (4), Ken Stabler, Vince Ferragamo, Ron Jaworski, Joe Montana (4), Ken Anderson, Joe Theismann (2), David Woodley, Dan Marino, Phil Simms, John Elway (5), Boomer Esiason, Jeff Hostetler, Jim Kelly (4), Mark Rypien, Troy Aikman (3), Steve Young, Stan Humphries, Neil O'Donnell, Brett Favre (2), Drew Bledsoe, Chris Chandler, Kurt Warner (3), Trent Dilfer, Kerry Collins, Tom Brady (5), Brad Johnson, Rich Gannon, Jake Delhomme, Ben Roethlisberger (3), Matt Hasselbeck, Peyton Manning (2), Rex Grossman, Eli Manning (2), Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers.

Black quartetbacks to start Super Bowl: Doug Williams, Steve McNair, Donovan McNabb.

Native American quarterback to start Super Bowl: Jim Plunkett (2).

There have been 46 Super Bowls, meaning there have been 92 starts by a quarterback. Of these 92 starts, 87 have been made by white quarterbacks, 3 by black quarterbacks, and 2 by Native Americans. I hope this clears up the confusion caused by the previous two posters, one of whom claimed that a higher % of black qb's than white had started the Super Bowl, and another haphazardly throwing up undocumented numbers to debunk the first poster.

Since: Jul 27, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 4:44 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

A possible monkey wrench for teams not located in DC: the have a history of overpaying for talent, although they've been much better about it in recent years.

This is one move I wouldn't mind we 'aggresively' pursue. While you mention Snyder, I think Shanahan not Snyder is sold on Griffin and will do all he can (within reason) to get that 2nd round pick. Remember, Shanny tried to offer a trade to Rams for Bradford but Rams were inetnt on drafting him, this time around I think he will make sures he gets a potential franchise QB. If it was any other position I would say no, even if it was Adrian Peterson we were trading up for!

We have been stuck in the cellar for so long without a QB and if we miss this chance, we could be stuck in the position (just out of range of top QB in the draft) for another 10 years without a viable QB.

We will eventually have to bite the bullet and trade for one while we have a chance even though those top picks are highly coveted to continue our rebuild. Now is the time IMO...


Since: Oct 12, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 4:40 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Kalil is going to be  Viking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since: Oct 24, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 4:27 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

A QB needy team that could likely win now should wait and select Brandon Weeden out of OK State. The guy is 28 years old - but he is as good fo a QB as there is, and he spent years in the MLB minors pitching as a Yankees prospect - so he can handle being a professional athlete. He is as pro-ready as anyone in this draft. I know he had Justin Blackmon, but he helped make JB into the top WR in this draft. If I was a GM, before I traded away my draft for RG3 or committed to a 36 year old coming off of 4 neck surgeries, I would draft a top player in round 1, wait until round 2 and grab Weeden. He should be a starter from day one, and will have an 8 or 10 year career.

Since: Jan 3, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 4:04 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

If Miami gets neither Flynn or Griffin, then they better get Peyton, draft either Tannehil, or the 6'5" kid from San Diego St. (i could be wrong on the school)  and let them learn from one of the best Q/B's in the game. You have to figure, Peyton still has 2-3 years left in the tank. 

Since: Mar 9, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2012 3:51 pm
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Since: Apr 21, 2011
Posted on: February 28, 2012 3:49 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Adgmog: The writer fashioned the report title, nothing more. The Rams of course are making reports designed to drive up the trade price. However, neither the story title nor current Rams statements bind the team to bypass RGIII and retain Bradford. The Rams will take the maximum the situation dictates, which includes drafting RGIII if the trade offers are not satisfactory to the Rams. Picking up an additional #1 pick is insufficient payment for the right to select a once in a decade talent, a John Elway who runs a 4.38 40 yard dash. If Bradford is genuinely as good as you tout, which I suspect is not true from watching him 2 seasons, the Rams can sign RGIII and still pick up that additional #1 pick. If you are correct in your estimation of Bradford, you confirm that the Rams can select greatness and still pick up that outstanding LT or WR they need.

Since: May 23, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 3:47 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Skins need to make this move. We have a good defense, and a good group of young running backs. The O-Line needs a little help, but RG3 could make this team competitive immediatley in the NFC East.

Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 3:45 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Miami would be a good fit

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