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Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Posted on: February 27, 2012 7:22 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 2:10 am
The RG3 sweepstakes gains momentum after the combine. (Getty Images, US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

The NFL Draft is two months off, but this much is certain: some team in desperate need of a franchise quarterback will trade up to the No. 2 spot and take Robert Griffin III, which was confirmed by NFL Insider Pat Kirwan. This is great news for the Rams, who currently own the second pick. While St. Louis has its own franchise quarterback in Sam Bradford, they have plenty of other needs.

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On Friday,'s Mike Freeman wrote about Griffin's future, noting that "League sources maintain at least three teams are strongly considering moving up in a blockbuster deal with the Rams to snag Griffin. Those teams, sources say, include Washington, Miami and Seattle. Team officials also say Cleveland has interest in trading up, though not as much as other teams." 

Freeman added that "It will likely take two No. 1 picks (at least) to make that trade, and the reason is some teams view Griffin as similarly talented as Luck or such a close facsimile in terms of potential that the difference isn't a great one."

RG3 had a nice showing at the combine and in Peter King's "Monday Morning Quarterback" column he writes that "The Rams will drive a hard bargain. Cleveland (fourth overall pick), Washington (sixth) and Miami (eighth) will be in the derby to move up; Seattle (12) and a couple of mystery teams could be, too. Add the fact that the money involved (four years, about $22 million) is likely to be less than the money paid to the top (current) free agent Matt Flynn, and the market for Griffin will be hopping."

That last point can't be emphasized enough. Right or wrong, Flynn's getting paid, just like Kevin Kolb did last year. If teams truly are sold on RG3's potential, then the new CBA means that trading up, by itself, isn't cost prohibitive -- although that could change based on the Rams' asking price. (ESPN's Adam Schefter tweeted Monday night that the Rams could get a deal similar to what the Chargers got for Eli Manning in 2004: two first-rounders, a third-rounder, and a fifth-rounder.)

A possible monkey wrench for teams not located in DC: the Redskins have a history of overpaying for talent, although they've been much better about it in recent years. Still, we liken owner Daniel Snyder's approach to player personnel to that of a prospective homebuyer who waives the home inspection and offers $40,000 over asking. It's a no-holds barred approach that ultimately doesn't work -- in real estate or for the 'Skins.

But the heart wants what the heart wants. And if Snyder is convinced that RG3 is the answer in Washington, we wouldn't be surprised if he had a roster-building relapse. Other potential suitors would be priced out of the bidding, which is great news for the Rams. Still, even if the 'Skins show restraint in the race for RG3, St. Louis should benefit.

"The whole paradigm has changed in several ways,'' Rams COO Kevin Demoff told King Saturday night. "Griffin could be cheaper than Flynn. The fact that you can get a potential franchise quarterback for what the top picks are paid now makes it easier to justify trading a lot for it.''

And fear not, RG3 sweepstakes losers.'s Pete Prisco tweets an important point:

For teams that might rush to trade up to No. 2 to get Griffin, just remember Matt Barkley and other QBs will be in next year's draft.
2/27/12 5:59 PM

The problem, of course, is that there's no guarantee that those quarterback-needy teams in range of RG3 this offseason will have similar opportunities to draft Barkley a year from now. That risk has to be weighed against the cost of getting Griffin now, as well as exploring other options, like trying to sign Flynn.

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Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: February 28, 2012 1:54 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

I think it's crazy to trade more than 2 first rounnd picks for anyone who hasn't taken a snap in the Pros. Maybe for a proven veteran with a lot of years left, but not for a college player. It's worth it if he works out, but how many can't-miss QBs have busted badly in the pros? Why waste 2 top picks on a potential bust?

History has shown that franchise QBs can be found late in the first round, and in many cases, outside the first round. Why risk a monumental mistake by trading 2 first round picks? Is there no way Cleveland's 2 first round picks cannot outperform RG3? Of course they can. Maybe by a lot. 

Since: Jul 26, 2009
Posted on: February 28, 2012 1:51 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Smart move, they can fill a lot of holes by making the trade. Bradford will be fine. Not that they would deal with a division foe but I hope the Seahawks don't break the bank making a trade for the #2 pick. I'd go for Flynn.

Since: Apr 18, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2012 1:35 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Buffalo needs to trade up if not for a quarterback then anyone on defense.

Since: Oct 2, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 1:33 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

There are to many scenarios that the RAMS could do with the No. 2 Pick.  Yes they could trade Bradford and keep RG3.  They could trade away the pick to the Browns for their No. 4 and No. 22.  Now I see that the Redskins are willing to part with two No. 1 picks 1 this year and next. 

Crazy to see what the RAMS will do.  I just hope that Blackmon is there at either the No. 4 or the No. 8 spot for th RAMS to take.  They have been hurting for a reciever ever since the retirement of Bruce and when Holt left.

It's going to be intersting to see what happens.

IMO the RAMS trade with the Browns not only for the two first rounds this season, but a 1st rounder next season and a couple of other picks either this season or next.

I think that's fair.

If anyone thinks that the SeaHawks will play a role in any trade don't buy it.  There is no way the RAMS trade with a divisional rival and give them a good QB.

Since: Feb 28, 2012
Posted on: February 28, 2012 1:18 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

maybe its just me but bradford doesnt seem to be a franchise QB to me. why not trade bradford and draft RG3.if you trade the pick your just going to get picks back, if u trade bradford you can get a wide reciever and some picks. that to me would make the rams a better team in the long run.

Since: Aug 22, 2006
Posted on: February 28, 2012 1:18 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

And why not?  Barkley is more of the Carson Palmer breed than he is Leinart.  He has a strong arm and is deadly accurate and he already runs a pro set offense with great efficiency.  Barkley would have the been the #2 qb in this draft and is as good and ready a quarterback as there is in the nation right now.  I think if he went to a school other than USC you wouldnt be hating.  No, the drop off from Luck to Barkley is not significant at a little more football before commenting please. Thank you.

Since: Jan 25, 2012
Posted on: February 28, 2012 1:07 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

"just remember Barkley and other QB's will be in next year's draft"

I'm not sold on Barkley being a franchise quaterback in the NFL. To me he has more similarities with two of his USC cohorts---Lienart and Sanchez, than with RG3. He doesn't have RG3s arm strength, deep throw accuracy, to say nothing of his speed. By all appearances Luck and RG3 have the physical and mental abilities to thrive at the next level (given time). The drop off from Luck & RG3 to Barkley is pretty significant. Of course this comes with the caveat of 3 of the top quarterbacks in The League today (Brady, Brees, and Rogers) came with relatively low expections--none of them were considered franchise quaterbacks.

One additional note about RG3's running and speed. RG3 runs like a track athlete (which he was  at one time--world class). He has a long stride. He can from point A to point B quickly, but the long stride somewhat hinders his ability to make people miss like a Michael Vick.

Since: Feb 28, 2012
Posted on: February 28, 2012 1:04 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

Steelers old?  Please, they are constantly in the hunt!  Last year are the so called experts said the same thing, they old.  Well they ended up with a 12-4 record and barely missed winning the divison. But hey you cant't be on top ever year, people come up with ways to try to beat you because your on top.  In the last 10 years only three teams have represented the AFC in the Superbowl, Patriots, Colts and oh yeah the Steelers.  Keep talking people about my team, it just makes winning more sweet.  OLD!!! hell we all get old, but the Steelers dont die, they Muliple, lol. Yell

Since: Aug 8, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2012 12:52 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick

NFCEASTFAN -I can only assume you want to hang out on this page all day and stir up problems. If you want logic, you need only look no further than your flawed statistical analysis. The two events are NOT CORRELATED. Race has nothing to do with performance, much like the fact that there are no teams that have ever won the Super Bowl with a member of my family as coach. One has nothing to do with the other. Your sample size of black QB's is too small. There was an era when ALL QB's were white in the league and 100% of the Super Bowls were won by white quarterbacks. In fact, I suspect if you break down the number of Super Bowl appearances per whhite and black quarterbacks, you would move closer to the average for both because you have a bunch of terrible white QB's to offset great white QB's and you would have terrible black QB's to offset great black QB's. Don't even get me started on how you failed to include comments about Tommy Chang or other non-black/white quarterbacks.

If you keep sticking to your guns on this argument, I hope you write a letter to the Eagles and suggest that they trade Michael Vick for someone like Elvis Grbac. He won a Super Bowl with your formula, so logically you must think he is great and the Eagles would be better off with him. How about Rex Grossman calling the shots for Philly? He's still active AND white.

I am completely blown away by how you are ignorant to your racism or oblivious to the world of statistical analysis.    

Since: Sep 10, 2008
Posted on: February 28, 2012 12:35 pm

Rams will deal No. 2 overall pick


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