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Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

Posted on: February 28, 2012 2:16 pm
Edited on: February 28, 2012 5:35 pm
 
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By Will Brinson

We already know that St. Louis "will" trade out of the No. 2 spot in April's NFL Draft. Even before reports of that, there was little debate about the Rams pulling in a haul for Robert Griffin III. That's because, as Clark Judge wrote recently, the Rams are sitting on a "gold mine."

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But we haven't heard any specific potential trade options for RG3. Until Tuesday, when we heard a report about what the Redskins are willing to offer in exchange for the second-overall pick. According to Mike Jones of the Washington Post, Dan Snyder's team is willing to part with two No. 1 picks "plus other selections in the middle to early rounds" in exchange for the rights to RG3.

Presumably, the Redskins would use their No.1 pick in 2012's draft (sixth overall) and package it with their No. 1 pick in 2012 (currently undetermined) and try to create a package similar to what the Giants used in 2004 when they acquired Eli Manning from the Chargers. At that time, the Giants gave up two No. 1 picks (one of which was Philip Rivers) plus a third- and fourth-round pick in that draft in exchange for Manning.

Two things on this. One (and this is something I never thought I'd say), RG3 would be a perfect fit with Mike Shanahan's offense. According to Pro Football Focus, Rex Grossman threw downfield (20 times or more) the 12th-most number of times of any quarterback in the NFL last year. He did that without starting every single game and he did it without being accurate. Rolling out of the pocket and keeping his eyes downfield before throwing a laser is what RG3 does best. It would be fun to watch and he would be quite successful.

But then there's point No. 2: I'm not sure that two first-round picks is enough to land Griffin. If the Redskins are getting their initial salvo out there publicly this soon, it's entirely possible that someone else is willing to package an additional first-round pick in order to land the coveted Baylor prospect.

However, the timing of this should be clear: the Redskins would like to get something locked down before free agency. Though they wouldn't be technically allowed to make a deal until the draft approached, the Redskins and Rams could have a handshake agreement on a deal prior to that. And Washington and Mike Shanahan can't go into 2012 without a quarterback.

If they get to free agency and don't have a sense that they can get Griffin on draft day, they absolutely need to pursue someone in free agency that can improve their play at quarterback immediately, whether that's someone like Peyton Manning, Matt Flynn or just Kyle Orton.

The question then becomes whether or not Washington's potential offer of four very good picks qualifies as enough for Jeff Fisher and Les Snead to take Griffin off the trading block and come to an agreement on the terms of a draft-day trade prior to the start of free agency. That's risky as the value of the No. 2 pick could continue to skyrocket as the draft approaches.

But if teams fill their quarterback issues via free agency, it's also possible that the value of the pick could drop or remain stagnant. By striking early, it's possible the Rams could get the best-possible deal well in advance of the draft, and really begin planning out how to fill their roster with high-end talent.

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 10:13 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

Joe Flacco is a good quarterback. He's not great but if you need someone to do good in the playoffs, you can count on Flacco. Name a quarterback in his draft class that won more playoff  then Flacco ? MATTER OF FACT, name a quaterback that won more playoff games then Flacco in the last 4 seasons ? Give that man respect 

Sanchez won 4 playoff games in 2 years, I believe all on the road.  And oh yeah, he's about to lose his job because he sucks. 

The Jets and Baltimore have won playoff games because their TEAMS did a great job.  They ran the ball effectively and played great defense. Special teams was great, coaching was even better.

THAT is how those teams won..... not because of mediocre qb's that can barely throw a ball accurately down field.  

Trent Dilfer won a superbowl... last I checked he wasn't great either.  



Since: Aug 2, 2009
Posted on: February 29, 2012 8:57 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

Never show yer hand that early in any poss negotiation unless you are trying to get others to the table.



Since: Aug 10, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 8:32 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

I love the part where they state they need to improve their play at quarterback immediately and go on to say even if it's "just" Kyle Orton.  Man, Orton gets no credit!  He's a good quarterback, I hope someone gives him a chance, he does well even with lack of talent around him.  Plug him into a system with talent and everyone will wonder why they never signed him. 



Since: Jan 5, 2012
Posted on: February 29, 2012 7:48 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

I hope Shanny's kid doesn't kill this relationship like he did with all the other Skins QB's.  I want RG3 on a team that will respect his leadership & his skill set under center!



Since: Jan 27, 2012
Posted on: February 29, 2012 7:20 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

Joe Flacco is a good quarterback. He's not great but if you need someone to do good in the playoffs, you can count on Flacco. Name a quarterback in his draft class that won more playoff games then Flacco ? MATTER OF FACT, name a quaterback that won more playoff games then Flacco in the last 4 seasons ? Give that man respect 



Since: Jun 14, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 7:09 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

Note to football_guy_83. You are spot on with a lot of your comments! However, I watch tons of football games and I strongly disagree with you on Joe Flacco. The guy is barely a 50% passer. He does as well as he does, because the Ravens have a great offensive line and an outstanding running back to take pressure off of him. I don't care if he has been to the playoffs 3 years in a row!! It is primarily due to the rest of the team, not him. I wouldn't even put him in the top 10 QB's in the league. Do you really think he is as good as P. Manning prior to his injury, E. Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Big Ben, Philip Rivers who just had a lousy year, Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Cam Newton, Tony Romo, Michael Vick, or Sam Bradford???

RGIII will most likely be the real deal!! He is not another Vince Young!!! He has the potential to be better than Luck, due to his speed and elusiveness, unless he gets hurt like Vick this year. I would love my Dolphins to get him. We have gone through 17 QB's since Marino was forced into retirement. Look at the problems Denver is having since Elway retired. If the scouts and other experts are convinced about his abilities, he is probably worth a high #1 pick this year, a #1 pick next year and a #2 and #3 either this year or next year. It is hard to find a Marino or Brady late in the draft. I think if you can afford to trade the picks to get a franchise QB, you do it while you can.



Since: Oct 13, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 3:02 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

Torn on this one, because on one side; I don't care for the Redskins, and I absoltutely enjoy watching Dan Snyder make a fool of himself, but on the other side; I really enjoy seeing big trades go down, and hopefully we can expect more of this excitement since the new CBA pruned Rookie saleries.
It has always been great fun to watch hated teams like the Redskins, Cowboys, Raiders, Vikings, and Bears, to name a few, make blunders on trades over the years, but I'm not sure what to make of this possible trade. I just don't believe RG3 will be the "Next Big Thang", ( Oh and isn't Cam still holding that crown anyway?) although he could surprise as the aforementioned Mr. Newton appley showed us last year, but it is exactly Mr. Newtons entry into the NFL the previous year that will lessen the impact that Griffin will have in his rookie campaign. They are similar players, both are dynamic atheletes, and a threat the run the ball, and NFL defenses are quick to adapt. We saw last season Newton make a big splash, but toward the end of the season, after defenses began to adapt, Newton wasn't as effective. I think young Mr. Griffin will find that someone has already pilfered the cookie jar the year before, and his type of play will not be as unexpected, and his impact will be less than that of Newtons.
Finally, even though RG3 is quicker, and faster than Newton he also is giving up 25+ lbs to Newton, 25 lbs that Newton used to shake off tackles, and while 3 is 6' 2", 220, I'm still leery of any guy taking too many hits from head hunting LB's and Safeties to get over excited on yet another over hyped running QB. Good luck Robert 



Since: Sep 11, 2011
Posted on: February 29, 2012 2:17 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

Griffin is another Vince Young



Since: Aug 18, 2006
Posted on: February 29, 2012 2:04 am
 

Report: Skins willing to deal 1sts, more for RG3

Does this surprise anyone? I don't think so. I have been saying this is going to happen as soon as Jones and Barkley stayed in school. I believe Manning goes to the AFC (Miami) and Flynn will go to the Browns. The only other real player in this is maybe the Seahawks. The Redskins are in postion to add a high QB pick for the first time in a long time. My money says Dan will not miss this one and he should not. The Redskins line blows and RG3 can move around. A true "nobrainermove" for the Redskins. I think 2 1st and a 3rd should do it. Maybe they drop and extra 5th or 6th for good measure. What's the last QB the Redskins had picked this high? Shuler? Campbell was a reach late in the first round. This move will make Skins fans happy and excited for the season.



Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: February 28, 2012 11:39 pm
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