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Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

Posted on: March 1, 2012 8:54 pm
Edited on: March 2, 2012 10:23 am
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GM Mickey Loomis reportely thinks Brees is a 'very good' quarterback. (Ryan Wilson, CBSSports.com/US PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

We're 12 days away from free agency, and the Saints and franchise quarterback Drew Brees are "roughly $5 million a year apart" on a new contract, according to Yahoo.com's Jason Cole.

CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman said as much Wednesday, adding that the differences could lead New Orleans to franchise Brees. It's an odd way to treat the guy primarily responsible for saving the organization in post-Katrina New Orleans. The same guy, by the way, who is two months removed from breaking Dan Marino's single-season passing record, and two years removed from leading the Saints to a Super Bowl.

All this prompted Freeman to ask: "What the hell are the Saints doing?"

Fair question.  "I've said this before," Freeman continued. "There are certain players, only a handful, where you open the vault and roll out the cash. You give them a blank check. Brees is one of those players. Franchising Brees is going to anger him, no question. Players despise the tag because it limits their earning potential. So you've ticked off your best player. For what? Why?"

Because, in an inexplicable turn of events, the Saints, according to Cole, are "privately trying to sell itself on the notion that Brees is simply a 'very good' quarterback."

Oh my. A quick refresher: between 1967 and 2005 (the year before Brees arrived), New Orleans made the playoffs a grand total of five times. In 38 years. They've been to the postseason three times since, including one Lombardi Trophy.

Cole writes Thursday that the "very good" quarterback meme "was the word coming out of the NFL scouting combine this past week, when Saints general manager Mickey Loomis tried to define Brees as 'very good' when the quarterback was called “great,” according to three league sources. All three sources were asking Loomis why it was taking so long to sign Brees to a contract extension. Loomis’ answer spoke volumes."

Cole thinks Loomis' foot-dragging will necessitate owner Tom Benson stepping in to fix things. Fortunately, he remembers what the pre-Brees Saints were like.

“Benson knows where this team was 15 years ago and he sees where it is now. He has to make the call. Mickey is not going to do it," a league insider told Cole.

This also means that the team can't move forward with Marques Colston or Carl Nicks, two important pieces to New Orleans' high-powered offense. It's likely that Colston will hit free agency while the team will franchise Nicks (not surprisingly, he's against it), but this assumes that a Brees deal gets done before March 5 (the last day a team can use the franchise tag).

The latest news coupled with the Colston/Nicks situation prompted CBSSports.com's Pete Prisco to tweet this:

PriscoCBS
Just a thought: If Drew Brees really is Mr. New Orleans, shouldn't he get a long-term deal done so others can get signed?
3/1/12 8:03 PM

PriscoCBS
Having said that, If Brees is smart he won't do it.
3/1/12 8:03 PM

Whatever happens, the Saints have to sign Brees. Because without him, this team will be our early favorites for the Matt Barkley sweepstakes. (Hey, it worked for the Colts!) By the way: if Brees is "very good," what does that make backup Chase Daniel?

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Since: May 20, 2012
Posted on: May 20, 2012 4:25 am
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

The Saints offered Brees a long-term contract before the 2011 season that would have made him the highest-paid player in the NFL and Brees and his agent, Tom Condon turned the contract down, a league source told CBSSports.com.

"[General manager Mickey Loomis] offered Brees the highest-paid contract in NFL history," the source said. "

Exactly how are the Saints offering a pretty good but not great quarterback the most money in nfl history handling it poorly? or do you mean to say that it is disgusting just how much money that they are offering to him? Lets be honest here...he certainly isnt tom brady, peyton or eli manning, aaron rodgers, or a future andrew luck. in fact brees would be placed in the level of qb's just below them. not trying to insult the man just being honest here. he is on a pass happy saints team during a pass happy era so his stats are abit inflated. sure he deserves to get a big raise but he rejected tom brady money? lol now thats just ridiculous and overly greedy on brees part. overrated would be the concensus here.



Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: March 11, 2012 6:49 pm
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

He should leave the team before he has to face the enevitable disgrace headed his way.



Since: Mar 3, 2012
Posted on: March 3, 2012 7:00 pm
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

I think he should sign a one year deal for as much as he can get.  The headhunters will get him hopefully.  You get what you deserve.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: March 3, 2012 12:09 pm
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

I want my teams' players to sign as small a contract as possible, so they have more options to build the best possible team with the most talent.

What you or I want means absolutely nothing.  There are probably 4 or 5 players at each position in the NFL that set the table for their peers when it comes to salaries, Brees is one of the qb's in that position with that responsibility.  The top guys get as much as they can at each position, and whatever is left goes to everybody else. 



Since: Oct 29, 2010
Posted on: March 2, 2012 5:59 pm
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

After the new ( taint gate ) the Saints might not have enough money to keep Drew Brees. I wonder how many teams will try to get even on Bress` legs and knees. whodat fans are now tainte saints , we`ll call them the Taints from now on



Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2012 2:48 pm
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

His job in that situation is to get every penny he can, nothing more nothing less.  And the more he gets the more every other star player that helps him on that team gets.
Not true. There's a salary cap. Every dollar one player gets is a dollar they cannot use to bring in a free agent or re-sign a good player to a new contract. Even if they don't hit the cap, the team may have it's own max on what they want to spend. More money for Brees would mean less money available for other players on the team.

I want my teams' players to sign as small a contract as possible, so they have more options to build the best possible team with the most talent.



Since: Jan 26, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 1:37 pm
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

The Saints better get Drew Brees signed and not cause any hard feelings over this contract with their franchise leader. The reason the Saints fell short in the 2011 season had absolutely NOTHING to do with quarterback Drew Brees and his ability to lead that offense. The team failed in the playoffs because of Greg Williams' sorry defense, that's why. Look at the game Brees played S.F. and how he led the Saints to 18 fourth quarter points, but a sorry defense blew a couple of late game leads!

I don't see where GM Mickey Loomis is coming from here and owner Tom Benson will need to step in and get this resolved before it starts to get ugly and personal because we've seen how that can ruin a team over the years!  



Since: Aug 20, 2006
Posted on: March 2, 2012 1:06 pm
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

Decent post about the pressure coming from the Players' Union, but how about the most obvious argument: we all want to be paid what we're worth and what we can get.  every single one of us negotiate with the world to make as much as we can.  you may donate or tithe some of that money away after it's yours, but all of us lobby to get paid our value and/or what the market will bear.  in the case of Brees, despite whatever happy horse crap the GM is trying to say, is an ELITE QB who should be valued as one of the top 3 QBs in the league. add to this all the points the article did a good job of pointing out relative to how much Brees has changed the culture and REVENUES of the Saints organization, and you have a compelling case to say he should be in the top 3 of all PLAYERS in the NFL.  Sure $20M is a large number, but how many millions has having Brees at the helm MADE for New Orleans.  not just the team, the city too. if you are directly responsible for generating that much money and success for your organization, why shouldn't he ask for a big pay day.  maybe the average American (myself included) won't make even a tenth that amount in their lifetime, these same people also won't turn a franchise around or generate massive corporate revenues either.  personally I think there is way too much money involved in professional sports relative to say education or law enforcement, but the reality is we value our sports more and we pump billions into watching sports and buying goods that get advertised while we're watching them.  if the money is there, Brees shouldn't catch grief for trying to negotiate his fair piece, he's no different than the rest of us.  this posturing and bs is the worst handling of what is obviously a slam dunk contract negotiation I can remember.



Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: March 2, 2012 11:51 am
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

Redwings, Great post!!! That is how the business works.




Since: Oct 15, 2009
Posted on: March 2, 2012 11:27 am
 

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

Deal should have been done last year.....I hope he walks, the redskins will pay him whatever he wants...that would resolve teh RG3 vs peyton delima..lol


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