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Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

Posted on: March 1, 2012 8:54 pm
Edited on: March 2, 2012 10:23 am
GM Mickey Loomis reportely thinks Brees is a 'very good' quarterback. (Ryan Wilson, PRESSWIRE)

By Ryan Wilson

We're 12 days away from free agency, and the Saints and franchise quarterback Drew Brees are "roughly $5 million a year apart" on a new contract, according to's Jason Cole.'s Mike Freeman said as much Wednesday, adding that the differences could lead New Orleans to franchise Brees. It's an odd way to treat the guy primarily responsible for saving the organization in post-Katrina New Orleans. The same guy, by the way, who is two months removed from breaking Dan Marino's single-season passing record, and two years removed from leading the Saints to a Super Bowl.

All this prompted Freeman to ask: "What the hell are the Saints doing?"

Fair question.  "I've said this before," Freeman continued. "There are certain players, only a handful, where you open the vault and roll out the cash. You give them a blank check. Brees is one of those players. Franchising Brees is going to anger him, no question. Players despise the tag because it limits their earning potential. So you've ticked off your best player. For what? Why?"

Because, in an inexplicable turn of events, the Saints, according to Cole, are "privately trying to sell itself on the notion that Brees is simply a 'very good' quarterback."

Oh my. A quick refresher: between 1967 and 2005 (the year before Brees arrived), New Orleans made the playoffs a grand total of five times. In 38 years. They've been to the postseason three times since, including one Lombardi Trophy.

Cole writes Thursday that the "very good" quarterback meme "was the word coming out of the NFL scouting combine this past week, when Saints general manager Mickey Loomis tried to define Brees as 'very good' when the quarterback was called “great,” according to three league sources. All three sources were asking Loomis why it was taking so long to sign Brees to a contract extension. Loomis’ answer spoke volumes."

Cole thinks Loomis' foot-dragging will necessitate owner Tom Benson stepping in to fix things. Fortunately, he remembers what the pre-Brees Saints were like.

“Benson knows where this team was 15 years ago and he sees where it is now. He has to make the call. Mickey is not going to do it," a league insider told Cole.

This also means that the team can't move forward with Marques Colston or Carl Nicks, two important pieces to New Orleans' high-powered offense. It's likely that Colston will hit free agency while the team will franchise Nicks (not surprisingly, he's against it), but this assumes that a Brees deal gets done before March 5 (the last day a team can use the franchise tag).

The latest news coupled with the Colston/Nicks situation prompted's Pete Prisco to tweet this:

Just a thought: If Drew Brees really is Mr. New Orleans, shouldn't he get a long-term deal done so others can get signed?
3/1/12 8:03 PM

Having said that, If Brees is smart he won't do it.
3/1/12 8:03 PM

Whatever happens, the Saints have to sign Brees. Because without him, this team will be our early favorites for the Matt Barkley sweepstakes. (Hey, it worked for the Colts!) By the way: if Brees is "very good," what does that make backup Chase Daniel?

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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: March 2, 2012 9:57 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

I know baby's mamas are expensive but come on. Brees seems like a family guy. Your kid's kid's kids should have not probelm making it with the $$$$ you already banked. I don't know the numbers on Brees' past contracts but a 2nd round pick had to be making good money plus the deal you got to come to NO had to be big time. I am friends with Mark Clayton's dad and the kid set up the entire family and has a boat load of cash for the rest of his life. I am thinking he was picked 22 or something and he didn't even get a 2nd big deal. I guess he was smarter with his cash. I guess if you can get it, go ahead but you hurt the chances to keep other players or bringing in other key guys. QBs are the biggest cogs, ask my Skins. Brees holds the chips now so he will get tagged or get what he wants. Maybe the Saints fans should occupy the Garden District or the Superdome until they get it together.

Drew Brees so far has grossed just over 70 million dollars in his career, 60 million in his last deal and about 11.5 million in total the few years before.  A great place to check an athletes lifetime earnings is, it's a great site for things like that. 

But here's the thing almost EVERYBODY on this thread is missing.  This isn't about Brees NEEDING more money then the Saints are offering and it's not about greedy agents or anything else.  Drew Brees is in a union, a huge union in a massive sports organization. His job in that situation is to get every penny he can, nothing more nothing less.  And the more he gets the more every other star player that helps him on that team gets.  And then players on other teams playing all positions benefit.   If he takes less then so will everybody else ......

Brees is under a lot of pressure behind the scenes that we'll never see, understand or be a part of.  We'll never know exactly what's going on but we know this much for sure.   We know his fellow union members want him to stay strong and hold out for every penny. We know his agent wants him to hold out for every penny.  Brees?  I'm pretty sure a great guy like that would play for a lot less if he could or if he had to... 

But,,,, he can't.  It doesn't work that way.  I hate unions, but it is what it is.  There are a handful of players in every sport at every position that are expected to set the table for everybody else.  Brees is one of those guys....  

But don't worry people... this deal will get done.  Brees will be a Saint for the rest of his career, no doubt in my mind at all.  He's too important to the team and he loves New Orleans way too much to even think about leaving.  He may even hold out if they franchise him, but that won't last long.  The Saints will give in..... they know they have to, but just as the union has a game to play so do the owners.   The more difficult they make things for Brees and his people the more likely players of much less quality and talent don't fight them as much in the future.

It's a game outside the game.....  

Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2012 9:43 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

If you wanna see what the Saints would be like without Drew Brees, just look at the 2011 Colts without Peyton.

Since: Mar 29, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2012 9:42 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

I'm a Giants fan - but if the Saints REALLY wanna  make a statement to their fans about their commitment to the people of New Orleans, Benson should fire Mickey Loomis, give Brees whatever he wants, and give a public apology stating that Brees is, in fact, a GREAT QB.

As a Giants fan, the one team that scared me more than any other was the Saints. I felt that there was no way we would have beaten them in the Dome, and that is all because of Brees. He's as good as they come.

Since: Oct 23, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 9:23 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

The Saints better take care of this , they don't need to loss him.

Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: March 2, 2012 9:18 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

I posted on this issue 2 or 3 days ago... The Saints and Brees are apart on 2 issues:  GUARANTEED money and Up- FRONT money.  That is the holdup. Brees and the Saints know he is going to exceed the per year contracts of Brady and Peyton Manning.  The big issue, and rightfully so to Brees, is loading the front end of the contract with the big bucks.  He will likely average 20 million a year for 5 years.  Ok... 100 million total.  Brees wants 23-25 per year during the first 2-3 years, and will play for 12- 15 per year in the last 2 or 3 years.  Why?? Because teams often cut or re- negotiate players in the later years of contracts.  The Saints want the opposite approach.  Pay Brees less up front, or as minimally as possible without insulting him, and then load him up on the back end.  They need to find a happy medium between them... and quick... Mar 5 is almost here.    

Since: Mar 30, 2010
Posted on: March 2, 2012 9:07 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

Brees as a very good QB? What a joke! He is a great QB. One of the best in the NFL. Not opening up the wallet considering everything he has down for that city would be a huge slap in the face. It's disgusting to tell the truth, just disgusting

Since: Oct 9, 2007
Posted on: March 2, 2012 8:43 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

Franchises can begin using the Franchise Tag, they have until the opening of free agency to designate who will receive it. Technically they CAN use it now but they have until free agency opens to work out a deal, then he will get tagged most certainly if a deal is not reached prior.

Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: March 2, 2012 8:42 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

It's obvious that the Saints are doing what they always do to our best them out of town...Manning, Hebert and now Brees, oh well I enjoyed it while it lasted, so it's time to see who the real Saints fans are when we're back to calling a 7 or 8 win season a "good year"...and our cheer goes from "Who Dat" to "Maybe Next Year" least they got a SuperBowl in my lifetime

Since: Aug 10, 2011
Posted on: March 2, 2012 7:00 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

This is kinda weird.  Drew Brees is one of those guys I thought would have a deal done rather quickly and not make a big deal about it.  It's not good for the Saints or Brees that this is taking as long as it is.  I'm sure he'll still be a Saint, so just spit in your hand and shake already!

Since: Aug 6, 2008
Posted on: March 2, 2012 5:13 am

Report: Saints, Brees $5M apart per year on deal

why would you not give drew brees whatever he wanted, wish my team had him ..

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