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Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D

Posted on: March 2, 2012 8:36 pm
In this photo from Oct. 22, 2006, Manning loses his helmet after getting hit in a game against the Redskins(Getty Images)

By Ryan Wilson

Former Saints defensive coordinator Gregg Williams apologized Friday evening for his part in the team's "pay for performance" bounty program that rewarded players for injuring opponents. In fact, one NFL source told's Mike Freeman that linebacker Jonathan Vilma offered up $10,000 to any teammate who knocked then-Vikings quarterback Brett Favre out of the game.

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Freeman says to expect more leaks in the coming hours and days.

(Apparently, Williams had a similar program when he was with the Redskins; a former player told the Washington Post that compensation ranged from "hundreds to thousands of dollars" with the biggest payout thought to be $8,000.")

One story we should expect to hear more about: Peyton Manning. He missed the 2011 season with a chronic neck injury, and he's probably taken his last snap for the Colts. Back in September, Tony Dungy, Manning's former coach who now serves as an NFL analyst for NBC, traced Manning's neck issues to a 2006 game.

The opponent? The Redskins. And the defensive coordinator? Yep, Gregg Williams.

Sports Illustrated's Peter King wrote about Dungy's remarks in his Week 1 Monday Morning Quarterback column:
Dungy had an excellent observation on our ... NFL special on NBC. He said Manning's neck history dates to Oct. 22, 2006, when his neck got wrenched and his helmet ripped off on a hit by two Washington defenders. We showed the highlight on our Saturday show, and Manning, after being hit and crumbling to the ground awkwardly, lay there for a second, and when he rose, he stretched his neck and shook his right arm for a second, as if trying to get the feeling back in it.

"Earlier in the game,'' Dungy told me, "I'm outraged that there was a flag for roughing-the-passer on Dwight Freeney for just grazing the quarterback's helmet. So I'm yelling at the ref [Scott Green], 'Where's the flag! Where's the flag!' And I don't yell much, but I did then. So I didn't notice Peyton calling timeout and being shaken up. Peyton came to the sideline and said to [backup] Jim Sorgi, 'Jim, start warming up.' As the timeout went on, he said to us, 'I can stay in, but we need to run the ball here.' ''
Former Colts president Bill Polian told King that Manning was fine at the end of the 2010 season and had "no recurrence of the neck problems that caused his first surgery after the 2009 season."

In January 2010, a week before the Saints faced the Colts in the Super Bowl, Williams (by then New Orleans' defensive coordinator) was asked about some controversial hits on Brett Favre in the NFC Championship Game.

“Here’s the deal," he said. "When you put too much of that type of worry on a warrior’s mind, he doesn’t play all out. If it happens, it happens. And the only thing you’d like for me to say is that if it happens you hope he doesn’t get back up and play again.”

Williams may have been sincere when he apologized Friday, but the remarks above makes them seem less geniune. More than that, you might think that the only reason Williams is sorry is because he got caught.

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Since: Dec 7, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2012 9:03 pm

Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D

I got one thing to say to all you pussies: SAINTS 31 COLTS 17

Since: Mar 3, 2012
Posted on: March 3, 2012 8:43 pm

Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D

If these charges against Williams turn out to be true, he MUST BE BANNED from the NFL for life.  The commisioner
must send a message that will be FOREVER heard by anyone who wants to be involved in the NFL.


Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2012 7:46 pm

Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D

if you remember the saints/colts superbowl when manning threw that pick 6 to porter, someone was running after manning trying to knock his block off, but what did manning do? fall down on his own, like a girl. at least in the nfc championship game, favre took it like a man. the saints tore his ass up and still to this day, what is favre saying, "hey man, that's just football." brett is absolutely right! let the men play..

Since: Jan 14, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2012 7:43 pm

Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D

hypocrisy. roger goodell says he wants to cancel the pro bowl because the guys stand around and don't play defense? then everyone is "astounded" that guys are trying to legally knock the crap out of targeted players. this happens in every football locker room from high school on up. you can't have it both ways goodell you sissy doll.

what is the NFL going to look like in a couple years? you can't hit the QB, can't tackle a WR. they might as well play flag football, the league is going to hell in a handbasket. what's next? allowing women to play?

Since: Jan 15, 2007
Posted on: March 3, 2012 5:38 pm

Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D

To everyone calling for the "death sentence", crying about how 'so disgraceful' this is, and implying they cheated. Since I started playing football at the age of 5, my coaches have told me to "Rip their F**king heads off!!" This was nothing more than a motivational technique. No one was paid to go out there and hit a player illegaly, or try to maliciously injure someone. They were incentives on the table for smacking the shit out of the QB. If you do not want the same thing our of your defense, you are not a fan of football.  
Oh you were told to go an injure the opposing QB? Bullsh.t and you know it.

There's a difference between hitting a QB hard and getting into his head and intenionally trying to knock a QB out of the game. That sort of stuff no longer has a place in the NFL. Get with the times.

Since: Mar 23, 2009
Posted on: March 3, 2012 5:21 pm

Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D

Hey Rangers, considering the story says that Manning had his first surgery after the 09 season perhaps you should get your facts straight instead of trying to correct my mistake.

Since: Feb 17, 2010
Posted on: March 3, 2012 5:05 pm
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Since: Nov 21, 2006
Posted on: March 3, 2012 4:41 pm

Dungy traces Manning's injury to Williams' D

LOL your GAY!!!!!

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Posted on: March 3, 2012 4:31 pm
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Posted on: March 3, 2012 4:30 pm
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