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Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

Posted on: March 3, 2012 11:23 am
 
Joe Gibbs, right, claims not to know that Gregg Williams might have had a bounty program in Washington. (US Presswire)
By Josh Katzowitz

We can discuss what Saints coach Sean Payton knew or didn’t know about the bounty brought about by his team and defensive coordinator Gregg Williams -- and the NFL says he knew about it at some point in the investigation process but did nothing to stop it. But former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs can tell you exactly what he knew when he employed Williams.

In three words: Gibbs knew nothing.

That’s what he told the Washington Post in the wake of what could be one of the nastiest scandals in NFL history.

“Just let me say this: I’m not aware of anything like this when I was coaching there,” Gibbs told the Post in a phone interview. “I would never ask a player to hurt another player. Never.”

Williams worked with Gibbs for three years as the Washington defensive coordinator from 2004-07 (that’s in the time frame Tony Dungy brought up Friday when the Redskins might have caused the beginning of Manning’s neck problems). For the record, Williams also took a defense that was ranked 31st in the league the year before he got there and turned it into a top-10 unit.

In his apology, Williams didn’t mention his time with the Redskins, but the team also apparently had a bounty program when Williams was there.

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And though Gibbs claims not to have known about it, the reports say the program was widely known throughout the organization.

“But I didn’t,” Gibbs said. “In my life … I wouldn’t ever tell a player to hurt somebody.

“They may say, ‘Well, Joe would know, because everybody else knew.’ But I didn’t know. I’m shocked by this.”

While it is hard to believe, like Payton, Gibbs didn’t know anything about the bounty program, but unless there’s absolute proof that disputes his spoken word, I suppose there’s not much reason not to give him the benefit of the doubt.

In other Williams-bounty-in-Washington news, here’s an interesting piece by Matt Bowen in the Chicago Tribune talking about his time with the Redskins playing for Williams and how the bounty system worked.

“I wanted to be That Guy for him, playing the game with an attitude opposing players absolutely feared,” Bowen writes. “If that meant playing through the whistle or going low on a tackle, I did it.

“I don't regret any part of it. I can't. Williams is the best coach I ever played for in my years in the NFL, a true teacher who developed me as a player. I believed in him. I still do. That will never change.”

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Since: Aug 16, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 4:01 pm
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

I wouldn't believe most coaches if they said this, but I believe Joe Gibbs.

1) Man has character. Doesn't even swear as a coach!
2) He let his defensive coordinator run the defense more fully than most head coaches. Williams was nearly autonomous like when he played only 10 players after Taylor's death, for the first play, and didn't tell Gibbs.
3) Joe seemed, and I don't want to sound disrespectful, a little clueless at times when he came back. Maybe that was just an impression. 



Since: Mar 8, 2008
Posted on: March 5, 2012 2:48 pm
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

Don-MLB-FL is in violation of this site's substance abuse policy. LOL...crazy.



Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2012 11:07 am
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

Gibbs and Payton either knew about the bounties and are covering their tracks, or they didn't know, and had far less awareness of their team that I ever thought possible. Either way, coaching is diminished in my eyes. Where was the head coach when the payouts were being handed out? Did they never hear players laughing and talking about the bounties? I'm sure a lot was said about it in the locker room. Nobody has ever said this was a secret among defensive players, and kept hush-hush from the rest of the team.



Since: Mar 5, 2012
Posted on: March 5, 2012 9:26 am
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

@ Gomexican..that was the best post I've EVER read on CBS in 10 plus years.




Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: March 5, 2012 4:29 am
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

My impressions of Gibbs go back before the days of the Hogs and Hogettes. Personally, he's the one guy I would believe in this situation. He's every bit the Sunday school teacher, even to the point of not swearing (a real accomplishment for a football coach, let me tell you.) Yet he's not the sort who plays preacher man when he's not been invited to do so. In other words, he's the genuine, hard-to-find deal--a bona fide Christian, in every sense of the Word. What's more, his players would've known that about him and made sure he was kept in the dark. The thing about the real deals is that the sinners tend to be pretty respectful of them, so long as they themselves were raised up around it. As most NFL players were.



Since: Dec 1, 2009
Posted on: March 5, 2012 4:27 am
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

My impressions of Gibbs go back before the days of the Hogs and Hogettes. Personally, he's the one guy I would believe in this situation. He's every bit the Sunday school teacher, even to the point of not swearing (a real accomplishment for a football coach, let me tell you.) Yet he's not the sort who plays preacher man when he's not been invited to do so. In other words, he's the genuine, hard-to-find deal--a bona fide Christian, in every sense of the Word. What's more, his players would've known that about him and made sure he was kept in the dark. The thing about the real deals is that the sinners tend to be pretty respectful of them, so long as they themselves were raised up around it. As most NFL players were.



Since: Feb 10, 2012
Posted on: March 5, 2012 4:21 am
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

It seems that there is a new "coach speak" defense - "Gee, I didn't know.." Ryan didn't know about locker room problems; Gibbs didn't know about Bounties.  It seems to me that when your HEAD coach you are supposed to know about such things.  Many labor grievances contain words like "knew or SHOULD HAVE KNOWN," so there is no presumed innocence here.


The argument that football is a violent sport so bounties are OK is ridiculous. Yes, Lewis and Harris try to hit people hard, very hard.  Their intent however is to take the plsyer off his game and not remove him from it.  Big difference there.  Notice that NFL bad boys Harris and Suh are among the first players to say the Bounty System is wrong. 


Finally, just because something was once "legal (as defined as not against the rules)" does not mean it can't become "Illegal (i.e. against the rules). Horse collar tackles and tear away jerseys are examples of such changes.  Bounties are now against the rules and spirit of the game. That is the fact that we, the fans, and the teams must accept. The people responsible for instituting the Bounty System with their teams, and those who allowed it to perpetuate knew that they were breaking the rules, but they did it anyway. They knew, if caught, they would be penalized. They don't deserve to be defended. They deserve to be punished.



Since: Oct 9, 2008
Posted on: March 4, 2012 11:34 am
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

I am sure that you had one good point in there somewhere before that cough syrup kicked in.




Since: Oct 11, 2006
Posted on: March 4, 2012 9:49 am
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

Get some glasses or learn how to write in a forum DON.



Since: Jul 3, 2010
Posted on: March 4, 2012 9:25 am
 

Gibbs says he didn't know about 'Skins bounty

Yes, the bounties have gone on for years and it is part of the game, so the NFL will basically slap Williams on the fanny.  The players with the idea of concussions - they are like stupid, but not the QBs they are the preyy boys, college educated that wne to the classes and earned their degrees taking classes other than yoga or sports recess.  Let's be real about all of this.....the players...the bottom level who are making dimes compared to hundreds....that is the way of the NFL....."hey guys lets use the players, let's get the fan's money, let's get the TV contracts and make millions".......that is the reality of all of this.  As a fan....do you think I honestly care if Favre cannot spell his name later in life because of brain damage?  Hell NO.  And with the Denver Broncos....it was Terrell Davis who delivered the Super Bowls to the team by running his knees into the ground, but all you hear is, "Elway, Elway, Elway" the horse-shaped-man faced QB.  Honestly just asked the horse-shaped-head of that doofus Sharpe, ask him in private, for he does not want to "bad mouth" for he is a respected TV personality.  LET'S BE REAL.....as a fan....I do not care about Dorsett and his issues, because quite frankly the questions become, "What have you done to your body that we do not know about?"...."Have you done drugs? Snorted cocaine, smoked crack?"......LET'S BE REAL.



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