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Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Posted on: March 6, 2012 12:37 pm
Edited on: March 6, 2012 2:02 pm
 
Gibbs, in his second stint as Skins coach. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Gregg Williams, the man at the center of "Bountygate," worked under Joe Gibbs as the Redskins defensive coordinator from 2004 to 2007 (before he became head coach of the Bills; there is also a concern he ran a bounty program there). So naturally, Gibbs was asked about whether bounty programs existed in Washington. And he said they absolutely did not.

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But here's an interesting twist to that: George Starke, one of the original "Hogs" under Gibbs during his first tenure as 'Skins coach, appeared on ESPN 980 and said, via Dan Steinberg of D.C. Sports Bog, that Gibbs used to walk through the locker room and hand out $100 b ills to defensive players who knocked down the quarterback.

"Let’s be clear: the reason that the Hogs did that Hogs Night Out poster ... was, in the meeting after the game, Joe Gibbs would come in, he’d have a fistful of $100 bills," Starke said. "And if Dexter knocked the quarterback down three times, he would get three hundred-dollar bills. And Joe would pass the money out in the meeting, and we would have to duck."

(Hogs Night Out was a result of Starke and the linemen being mad they received no money, so they'd apparently sign Jack Kent Cooke's name to the check.)

Starke pointed out that Gibbs wouldn't consider the $100 handouts "bounties," but rather "incentives." And there's a big difference there, even if both are a violation of (current) NFL rules. Bounties contain a malicious intent to cause injury or physical harm to another player. Incentives are simply bonuses for doing your job well.

And while Starke pointed out that he didn't think Gregg Williams (who he doesn't know) would tell a player to hurt someone, he said that "George Allen did in fact put a bounty on Roger Staubach of 200 bucks, and the bounty was to knock him out ... Not to hurt him. Let's be clear about that. Knock him out... We used to call it drag-offs."

Now that is a bounty. And even if Starke doesn't think what Gibbs was doing would be considered a "bounty" and even if Gibbs wouldn't call it a "bounty," combining that description of injury to a person with the visual of Gibbs making it rain in the 'Skins locker room isn't exactly the best public relations for the former Redskins coach.

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Since: Feb 15, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 7:10 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Wouldn't any coach feel that he has a better chance with the backup in there ? Why would someone not return to the game if they're not hurt ? Say they're scared? Just how do you knock someoe out of the game without hurting them ? What reason would keep you out of the game ? Please be specific.
It goes on and has done so since the beginning of the game in some form or another, even for just bragging rights, or free beers at the bar after the game in the old days. When tempers flare, they try to hurt each other for pride.



Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:49 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Derek Sutton... it is NOT a crime to ask consenting adults who play a game for millions of dollars to hit his opponent very hard DURING a football play.  You are wrong... if the Saints were mugging guys in the parking lot after the game or even running off the field at halftime or the end of the game (see Andre Watters chasing down Eric Martin for an example), THEN it is arguably a crime.  These guys are paid millions to hit each other as violently as they can on every play.  Don't even begin to say it is a crime, or I will get your resume to the ACLU with Idiot Doyel.  Posters will chime in... this is NOT a criminal situation. 



Since: Dec 19, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:44 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Big deal! Gibbs used to hand out rubbers to his players when his daughter was around!



Since: Nov 7, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:40 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Goodell has to come down really hard on them , especailly Williams now that ex players are suing the NFL. For head injuries
I wonder how many of the potential litigants received bounties in their playing days?  I highly doubt this is limited to the Saints and Skins and wherever else Williams coached. This could get really ugly really fast.



Since: Sep 11, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:36 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Goodell has to come down really hard on them , especailly Williams now that ex players are suing the NFL. For head injuries



Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:31 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

I think that rewarding players for getting to the opponent's quarterback is quite different from rewarding players for injuring another team's players. There was no suggestion in Starke's remarks that indicated that Joe Gibbs sanctioned intentionally injuring opponents' players, and it is unfair and irresponsible to intimate, as the headline does, that Gibbs was guilty of engaging in behavior similar to "bounty hunting."  Unless CBS Sports has evidence that Gibbs did anything more than Starke indicated, it owes Gibbs and readers an apology.



Since: Dec 23, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:30 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Zeppelin , buddy put a bounty on the kicker zendajous ( probally spelt wrong) but nothing happened , think it was all for show anyway , williams coached with buddy. So their you go !



Since: Dec 23, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:28 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Looks like the AINT,s are coming back after their 3 year ride to glory. They will be hard pressed to win again , losing colston , nicks and all the draft picks that the nfl is going to take not to mention they don't have a number 1 this year. ( thank you boys) back to being the losingest franchise in pro sports. Only team with a worst history would be the Clippers. Lol



Since: Jan 20, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:23 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

I remember very clearly Buddy Ryan openly talking about putting a bounty on anyone and everyone that wore opposing uniforms.  He was hardly the only person we heard about.  As fans, we have been hearing rumors for generations about so called the bounties in the league.  It hurts Roger Goodell's credibility to sit there and act so shocked that this goes on.  I would bet anything that this sort of thing goes on in 75% of all the locker rooms in the NFL, if not 90%.  I think the NFL is right to move towards a more humane approach to the game.  I just think its an insult to our intelligence as fans for Roger Goodell to act like he can't believe this sort of thing goes on.  If nothing else it makes him look out of touch.  Sean Payton and others will be made an example of for sure. I say 8 games.




Since: Jan 9, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 6:23 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Brees. You are crazy , what they did is Illegal , never mind that it is morally wrong .. It is a Crime


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