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Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Posted on: March 6, 2012 12:37 pm
Edited on: March 6, 2012 2:02 pm
 
Gibbs, in his second stint as Skins coach. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Gregg Williams, the man at the center of "Bountygate," worked under Joe Gibbs as the Redskins defensive coordinator from 2004 to 2007 (before he became head coach of the Bills; there is also a concern he ran a bounty program there). So naturally, Gibbs was asked about whether bounty programs existed in Washington. And he said they absolutely did not.

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But here's an interesting twist to that: George Starke, one of the original "Hogs" under Gibbs during his first tenure as 'Skins coach, appeared on ESPN 980 and said, via Dan Steinberg of D.C. Sports Bog, that Gibbs used to walk through the locker room and hand out $100 b ills to defensive players who knocked down the quarterback.

"Let’s be clear: the reason that the Hogs did that Hogs Night Out poster ... was, in the meeting after the game, Joe Gibbs would come in, he’d have a fistful of $100 bills," Starke said. "And if Dexter knocked the quarterback down three times, he would get three hundred-dollar bills. And Joe would pass the money out in the meeting, and we would have to duck."

(Hogs Night Out was a result of Starke and the linemen being mad they received no money, so they'd apparently sign Jack Kent Cooke's name to the check.)

Starke pointed out that Gibbs wouldn't consider the $100 handouts "bounties," but rather "incentives." And there's a big difference there, even if both are a violation of (current) NFL rules. Bounties contain a malicious intent to cause injury or physical harm to another player. Incentives are simply bonuses for doing your job well.

And while Starke pointed out that he didn't think Gregg Williams (who he doesn't know) would tell a player to hurt someone, he said that "George Allen did in fact put a bounty on Roger Staubach of 200 bucks, and the bounty was to knock him out ... Not to hurt him. Let's be clear about that. Knock him out... We used to call it drag-offs."

Now that is a bounty. And even if Starke doesn't think what Gibbs was doing would be considered a "bounty" and even if Gibbs wouldn't call it a "bounty," combining that description of injury to a person with the visual of Gibbs making it rain in the 'Skins locker room isn't exactly the best public relations for the former Redskins coach.

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Since: Mar 24, 2009
Posted on: March 6, 2012 4:28 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

"Gregg Williams, the man at the center of "Bountygate," worked under Joe Gibbs as the defensive coordinator from 2004 to 2007 (before he became head coach of the ; there is also a concern he ran a bounty program there)."

Do you guys do any QC before publishing articles?

Williams was the Head Coach of the Bills from 2001-03, after he was fired by the Bills, Williams was hired by the Skins.

Have I not corrected you before Mr. Brinson?


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Posted on: March 6, 2012 4:22 pm
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Posted on: March 6, 2012 4:21 pm
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Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 4:11 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Joe needs to come clean.....he clearly denied any of this went on under his coaching days while coaching the REDSKINS !!! If it's true he did hand out 100.00 dollar bills to put hits on players, then he certainly can't complain that the players didn't give him his money's worth.....They went to the Super Bowl 4 times under him and won it 3 out of the 4 times. WOW Joe you must have handed out a lot of those babies !!! Maybe you should have done that on your return to coaching. They seemed to have paid off for you the first time !!!



Since: Aug 25, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2012 4:11 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Lets see how far under the rug the NFL manages to sweep all this. The penalties should be the same as in the NCAA. Any accolades achieved during these periods should be forfited including playoff games and championships. Current players and Coaches should be suspended and Large fines accessed against all parties guilty of skirting the rules. Cheap shot artists shouldn't play professional sports.



Since: Mar 22, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 4:06 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

I say when someone advocates to INJURE another player intentionally, it crosses the line.
A Saints fan who gets it.  This is what Williams admitted was going on in Nola.  Gibbs was only rewarding for legal hits, not advocating that his players try to remove opposing players from the game, or ruin their careers.



Since: Sep 19, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2012 4:02 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

How do you knock someone out without hurting him?
It's possible to knock someone out without hurting the player, there be an few players that been knock out if hit just right. But the key point is that George Allen want to get Staubach to sit out the rest of game, What is Allen is saying that his team has a better chances of beating the Cowboys if Staubach backup is playing.



Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:57 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Starke, the blowhard just needs to shut the - up....... he stunk as a left tackle and probably handed $100 bills out for all of the bad blocks he made..



Since: Feb 27, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:49 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Would we not consider the handing out of stickers to put on your helmet at the middle school, high school and college levels the same type of incentive as passing out $100 bills would be in the pros? I certainly do not condone the notion of placing a bounty on someone with the intent to hurt them but every ball player knows that when you get to that film meeting and you had a couple big hits on defense or special teams or a pancake for the O linemen that they are going to be recognized and praised for it. This whole thing has gotten way out of hand and is just something for the media to talk about for the couple of days before some real basketball gets going.



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