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Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Posted on: March 6, 2012 12:37 pm
Edited on: March 6, 2012 2:02 pm
 
Gibbs, in his second stint as Skins coach. (Getty Images)
By Will Brinson

Gregg Williams, the man at the center of "Bountygate," worked under Joe Gibbs as the Redskins defensive coordinator from 2004 to 2007 (before he became head coach of the Bills; there is also a concern he ran a bounty program there). So naturally, Gibbs was asked about whether bounty programs existed in Washington. And he said they absolutely did not.

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But here's an interesting twist to that: George Starke, one of the original "Hogs" under Gibbs during his first tenure as 'Skins coach, appeared on ESPN 980 and said, via Dan Steinberg of D.C. Sports Bog, that Gibbs used to walk through the locker room and hand out $100 b ills to defensive players who knocked down the quarterback.

"Let’s be clear: the reason that the Hogs did that Hogs Night Out poster ... was, in the meeting after the game, Joe Gibbs would come in, he’d have a fistful of $100 bills," Starke said. "And if Dexter knocked the quarterback down three times, he would get three hundred-dollar bills. And Joe would pass the money out in the meeting, and we would have to duck."

(Hogs Night Out was a result of Starke and the linemen being mad they received no money, so they'd apparently sign Jack Kent Cooke's name to the check.)

Starke pointed out that Gibbs wouldn't consider the $100 handouts "bounties," but rather "incentives." And there's a big difference there, even if both are a violation of (current) NFL rules. Bounties contain a malicious intent to cause injury or physical harm to another player. Incentives are simply bonuses for doing your job well.

And while Starke pointed out that he didn't think Gregg Williams (who he doesn't know) would tell a player to hurt someone, he said that "George Allen did in fact put a bounty on Roger Staubach of 200 bucks, and the bounty was to knock him out ... Not to hurt him. Let's be clear about that. Knock him out... We used to call it drag-offs."

Now that is a bounty. And even if Starke doesn't think what Gibbs was doing would be considered a "bounty" and even if Gibbs wouldn't call it a "bounty," combining that description of injury to a person with the visual of Gibbs making it rain in the 'Skins locker room isn't exactly the best public relations for the former Redskins coach.

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Since: Mar 3, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:42 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Hitting and hurting are not the same thing. I think the practice is wide spread as well, but Gibbs practice is at best flimsy evidence. What Gibbs shows is that hitting the QB is the key to winnig football. Thats it. 



Since: Oct 25, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:41 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Cheap bastard!



Since: Mar 3, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:39 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Brinson this si a pathetic attepmt to associate your name with teh biggest story of the moment. Its disgusting. Gibbs handing out $100 for hitting the QB is not a bounty. The descriptions Starke used were "hitting" and "incentives for doing your job well" do not equal the "making it rain" carp you're using. Further we hear broacasters on every pregame in the NFL say, "they have to hit the QB". AM I wrong or is that what they are getting paid to do. IN fact I'm pretty sure the D-Lineman are getting paid so well largely for that reason. Mario Williams is not sought after because he is a terrifc and sound tackler, its because he gets to the QB and brings him down. This garbage peice shoudl be pulled, or used as an example of how when journalists chase money, they stop doing journalism.  



Since: Oct 9, 2006
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:31 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Yawn. Big Deal.



Since: Nov 20, 2009
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:23 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

I heard a great line yesterday and I will reiterate it here.  Why are all you pu**ies coming out of the woodwork digging up stories about bounty programs and players being paid to hurt opposing players?  I am sure you are the same people that dont talk to your wives on Sunday's because you are so rivited by the NFL.  Well, that same NFL that rivets you every weekend is built on this type of stuff. 

As Col. Jessup said and Roger Godell should scream from the rooftops to you all:  "I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the very (game) that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it.  I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way." 

My father used to say, if you go looking in the garbage...you are bound to find a little trash.  In my opinion thats all people like Brinson are...overhyped trashmen with no lives and too much time on their hands.  It used to be about the game....now its about cronies like Brinson getting "air time" with stories that are ruining it right in front of our eyes.  Thanks.




Since: Mar 15, 2009
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:18 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

All for it. Whatever it takes to motivate.


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Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:14 pm
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Since: Jan 19, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:12 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

"George Allen did in fact put a bounty on Roger Staubach of 200 bucks, and the bounty was to knock him out ... Not to hurt him. Let's be clear about that. Knock him out... We used to call it drag-offs."
How do you knock someone out without hurting him? Worst. Excuse. Ever.




Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 3:07 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

I love this article!!!  Joe Gibbs, who days ago denied even hearing of any bounty or reward system, is the guy handing out $100 treats to the players for knocking the QBs around.  I love this because it illustrates how wide spread this practice is in the NFL.  It is an incentive- based "contest" played by these players on EVERY team to add a little fun to the process. When is it ok versus crossing the line?  I say when someone advocates to INJURE another player intentionally, it crosses the line.  If the goal is to LEGALLY hit the other player as hard as possible, even knocking them out of the game as a byproduct, between the whistles... it is OK.  This is a witch hunt by the NFL because they are scared of these lawsuits filed by the ex- players.  If they are going to hunt down the Saints, hunt down the rest...    &nbs
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Since: Mar 5, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 2:58 pm
 

Starke: Gibbs handed out $100 bills for QB hits

Hey, those hundred dollar handouts are precursers to the NEXT game and precursers to bertter contracts too. You're top Hall of Famers like Butkus weren't shy about immobilizing the opposition...Are we going to change the Hall of Fame requirements?


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