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Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

Posted on: March 6, 2012 5:17 pm
Edited on: March 6, 2012 5:50 pm
Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis have promised never to allow a bounty program in their organization again. (US Presswire)
By Josh Katzowitz

Since the Saints bounty program news broke last Friday, New Orleans coach Sean Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis have not commented. On late Tuesday  afternoon, they broke their silence, releasing a joint statement through the Saints PR department.

Basically, Payton and Loomis are taking full responsibility. 

Here is the statement:
We acknowledge that the violations disclosed by the NFL during their investigation of our club happened under our watch. We take full responsibility.

This has brought undue hardship on Mr. (Tom) Benson, who had nothing to do with this activity. He has been nothing but supportive and for that we both apologize to him.

These are serious violations and we understand the negative impact it has had on our game. Both of us have made it clear within our organization that this will never happen again, and make that same promise to the NFL and most importantly to all of our fans.

Mickey Loomis & Sean Payton

You’ll recall that Gregg Williams also apologized in a statement last week, saying, “I want to express my sincere regret and apology to the NFL, Mr. Benson, and the New Orleans Saints fans for my participation in the 'pay for performance' program while I was with the Saints. It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it. Instead of getting caught up in it, I should have stopped it. I take full responsibility for my role. I am truly sorry. I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again.”

It is interesting, though, that the only person to whom they apologize is Benson. Not to Roger Goodell or the fans or the players that might have been physically hurt by the bounties.

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Since: Sep 22, 2009
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:56 pm

Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

Players have been intentionally trying to hurt other players since the dawn of the game. The problem here is that they were told to stop doing this thing and they didn't. The thing in question has been around for decades. In fact it used to be a source of pride in the NFL. The game has changed, and the Saints decided that they didn't want to change with it. Big mistake. But don't pretend that NFL players haven't been trying to hurt each other for decades. And btw, the Saints weren't penalized more than any other team in the league. Whatever effect it had on the field is questionable at best.

Since: Nov 10, 2006
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:48 pm

Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

Hey, my Patriots were not the only team videotaping coaches signals, Green Bay and others did it, as well.  But we got caught and paid the price.  What the Saints did is not even in the same hemisphere as what the Pats did.  When a team feels the only way to win is to intentionally injure the key players on another team, it takes on a different meaning.  Playing outside the rules and doing intentional harm to maime or hurt another is criminal, not matter whether it is football or hockey.  The NHL should keep a close eye on these proceedings, since their flagrant allowance of fighting consitutes in similar fashion what Greg Williams initiated.  Every hockey team has one or two goons, whose main function is to take out the best players on the opposing team.  Football has rogue criminals, as well.  It didn't earn the terrm National Felon League for nothing.  The fines, suspensions, and loss of draft picks, franchise tags, etc, have to be very severe, if teams are to abide by the term called sportsmanship, which means playing within the confines of the rules.  The fact that New Orleans defiantly and blatantly continued this pay for bounty, for 3 years, even when they knew they were being investigated shows they had no fear of represcussions from the league and were going to do what they want.

Just because every speeder doesn't get caught, doesn't make it wrong when you do.  The fact that Payton and Loomis sanctioned these actions by not stopping them, but acknowledging they knew about it further should infuriate the league.  And as stated, no one has apologized to the people intentionally injured.  Favre even states his ankle was broken in the 2009 NFC Championship. 

1.  Strip the Saints of the Super Bowl Trophy, they don't deserve it and did not earn it.
2.  Ban Greg Williams for life if his practices carried over to Washngton and Buffalo, as reported.
     Fine him the maximum
3.  Suspend Payton for 8 games or half a season with the maximum fine.
4.  Fine the organization the maximum
5.  Suspend Loomis for a year for condoning these actions and not stopping them when told.  The owner should ifre him.
6.  For all players who contributed to the bounty or appearing to knowlingly injure another player, automatic 4 game suspension and maximum fines.
7.  No playoffs for 2 seasons.
8. Loss of 2nd rd pick this year and 1st rd pick next year.
This will stop the bounty hunting

Since: Nov 24, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:45 pm

Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

The most empty words in the world today: "I take full responsibility."  Does anyone out there think Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis really expect to be punished for their participation in the bounty program, even though they claim they are taking full responsibilitty?

It has been established that Saints players were paid for hits that were designed to injure opposing players.  How were those players paid?  Certainly not out of Gregg Williams' pocket.  Sean Payton and Mickey Loomis were fully aware of the bounty awards because they were the people who authorized the payments.  But it is virtually guaranteed they will escape any significant punishment.  At worst, they probably will be hit with large fines (that will most certainly be paid by team owner Tom Benson).  In other words, it's a slight loss of face and nothing more.

For once, somebody who echoes those meaningless words about taking full responsibility should pay the real price for that responsibility.  If Roger Goodell claims he cares about the safety of players -- and the NFL has taken most of the hitting out of the game -- a one-year suspension of Payton and Loomis will strike terror into the hearts of all of the arrogant, football-mentality head coaches, their renegade assistants and general managers, who constantly draft bad-character players and those who feel compelled to bend and break rules.       

Since: Feb 27, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:27 pm

Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

Really FolklegendRedux?

That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.  "The Saints should compensate players they've injured".  If that's the case then every team should have to compensate every player ever injured by them.  Every team injures players.  Every team probably has some kind of system that players have gotten rewarded for hits.  If that wasn't the case, wouldn't we have heard from the other 31 NFL teams denying they've ever done that and that the Saints are a rouge team that doesn't reflect upon them?  Of course we all know that this isn't the case.

Is it wrong to pay players to specifically target and injure others?  Absolutely.  Should the Saints pay some sort of price for being stupid enough to get caught?  Absolutely.  Are they the only ones to ever do it?  Nope.  Will this be the end of this kind of activity?  Probably not.  It will still go on... maybe not at a team facility, maybe not envolving non-player personnel, but somewhere it will still go on.

Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:21 pm
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Since: Sep 26, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 10:57 pm

Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

Talk is cheap.  Taking responsibility includes paying a price for your looking the other way and maybe even compensating players your guys deliberately injured.

Since: Jan 7, 2009
Posted on: March 6, 2012 10:37 pm

Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

Payton and Loomis take "full responsibility". Why now? Oh yea, they got caught. Where was all this "taking responsibility" for the last 3 years? You see this in sports all the time. Someone gets caught doing something reprehensible, THEN they come out and accept "full responsibility"! Then all the sports writers on TV say the same thing, at least thy are taking "full responsibility".
Lets try this one on for size, they were engaged in this type of behavior, ignored an order from the NFL to stop, kept doing this until they got caught, and now they will say absolutely anything to make sure that they aren't banned from the NFL for life. This goes all the way up. The GM, Head Coach and the defensive co-ordinator should all get at least a year. At the very least!

Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:23 pm
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Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:22 pm

Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

Larson813, shut up you whiny Minnesota Loser.  "Whaaa... take their trophy away....Whaaa"  Just grow up... the Saints beat the Vikings because Favre choked.  He threw a terrible interception while the Vikings were in game- winning field goal position.  Favre himself, "the Target", says it was football, he expected them to come after him.  The Vikes knew the Saints were coming, and could not stop them.  So shut up, quit crying like a sissy, and pull for your sad Vikings to win something.  The Vikings lose every big game they play, and losers like you cry about it, going on 42 years now, back to Superbowl IV when Stram kicked the Vikings around. 

Since: Nov 19, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 8:38 pm

Payton, Loomis take 'full responsibility'

Take their damn trophy!  The only reasons they are "sorry" is because they are caught...and they know ultimately it won't change anything that already happened, also, they will still have their trophy.  They have the people who will support them blindly and no matter what, saying that their trophy is legitimate.  So, suspend, ban for life....whatever...but most of all...take their trophy...and then we will really see their true colors and if they are really "sorry."

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