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Peyton Manning's release: Winners/Losers

Posted on: March 6, 2012 8:20 pm
Edited on: March 6, 2012 11:20 pm
 
Manning

By Josh Katzowitz

With the news that the Colts and Peyton Manning will part ways Wednesday, there will, of course, be bystanders who are positively and negatively affected by the news. Here’s our list of winners and losers.

Winners

Andrew Luck: In his first year in a Colts uniform, Luck will get to experience the highs and lows of playing as a rookie quarterback. Sometimes this goes well (see Cam Newton and Andy Dalton). Sometimes this goes poorly (see, um, Peyton Manning). And while we could make the argument that Luck would do well apprenticing under a veteran for a season -- he wouldn’t have to deal with the top pick pressure for an extra year and he could learn the new offense without the media spotlight trained on his every move -- Luck will learn much more if he’s actually playing. Plus, he won’t have the Peyton Manning shadow hanging over his rookie season.

Jim Irsay: Already, Irsay has begun to renovate his team, firing Bill Polian and former coach Jim Caldwell, following the 2-14 season. Irsay has done a wonderful job turning the Colts franchise into a perennial Super Bowl contender (2011, of course, being the exception), and now, he gets to be involved in another massive rebuilding project. Manning, of course, has done perhaps more than anybody to get Super Bowl XLVI to Indianapolis and to get Lucas Oil Stadium built, but Irsay now can remake the team as he sees fit. Plus, like Luck, his team won’t have the Peyton Manning shadow hanging over the franchise in 2012.

ManningAFC South: We’ve seen what happens when Manning isn’t playing for the Colts: the rest of the division gets better! Well, except for the Jaguars, of course. But without their franchise quarterback in the lineup, the Colts went from being the scariest team in the AFC South to being the most toothless. That probably won’t change in 2012, in which the Texans -- who never could get over the Manning hump and who couldn’t make the playoffs until he wasn’t playing -- will be one of the favorites in the AFC. Without Manning, Houston might have the chance to become the new Indianapolis.

Colts fans: In some sense, the city has been held hostage by the Manning-Irsay impasse, and it actually overshadowed the early part of Super Bowl week. But without Manning around, the salary cap won’t be as rigid, and with Luck coming into town (we assume), he’ll bring a new sense of excitement to the organization and to the city in general. Yes, Indianapolis will miss a community leader in Manning, but who’s to say Luck couldn’t fill that role anyway.

Losers

Matt Flynn: In our free agent quarterback rankings, we listed Drew Brees as No. 1, Manning as No. 2, and Flynn as No. 3. Brees has been franchise-tagged by the Saints, and it’s clear that the possibility of landing Manning will overshadow whatever Flynn will be trying to do. Flynn to Miami? Well, let’s see if the Dolphins can land Manning first. Flynn to (fill in the blank)? Well, let’s see if (fill in the blank) can land Manning first. Flynn likely won’t be anybody’s first choice, and you have to wonder how that will affect his bottom line. Would you rather have Manning, even if he’s not completely healthy, or Flynn? The answer is obvious.

Robert Griffin III: While the Manning release is good news for Andrew Luck, it might mean something different for RG3. Like Flynn (though probably not as much as Flynn), other quarterback-needy teams will look at Manning first before (possibly) trying to trade up with the Rams in order to draft Griffin after Luck. Like Flynn, this might limit Griffin’s options, and it might actually mean Griffin isn’t taken with the No. 2 pick. That probably won’t happen, but if one of the teams (say, ahem, Washington) looking at Griffin ultimately goes with Manning and the rest of league believe St. Louis’ price is too high, you have to wonder if Griffin will fall to the fourth pick.

Manning’s bank account: Not that he needs financial assistance, but cashing in on a $28 million bonus would have been pretty sweet.

Rob Lowe: I guess we can forget about Lowe’s budding journalism career. While he was right in believing that Manning was done in Indianapolis, Lowe also reported that Manning would retire. That’s not going to happen, and unfortunately for Lowe, reporters don’t credit for being half-right.

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Comments

Since: Oct 15, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:39 pm
 

Peyton Manning's release: Winners/Losers

Disagree sausage. What super bowl ready teams are there that would sign manning? The only ones that comes to mind is sf and possibly Houston if Schaub isn't recovering. Given Houston let Williams go, they obviously don't have the cap room to pay manning what he will seek. Disagree also that Matt Flynn is hurt as much as the article claims. Building a team around manning at this point is lunacy, considering you might need at least three years to build the team. manning is 35 and that leaves you with a one or two year window at most before you have to blow things up. Flynn is ready to step in and will be there for the entire building process plus giving you a four year window (or more). Assuming of course, he pans out. (But that risk is there with manning as well.) Is an owner going to break the band with manning, then stick him behind an offensive line that resembles a turnstile, knowing that one shot could tank your investment? Or would you go with a younger, healthier, more mobile quarterback that gives you a reasonable window of opportunity once the team is built.

Compare this with the situation of Brett Favre. He lucked out in getting traded to a team that was relatively close (the Jets). Guided them to the playoffs. Then, when released/retired, had the fortune of going to the vikes, a team that really was in sausage's words "super bowl ready".

manning might help guide a team to the playoffs, but as far as taking a team to the super bowl (Miami, Washington)...i'd take the action in Vegas against it.



Since: Aug 24, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:27 pm
 

Peyton Manning's release: Winners/Losers

Luck might be a winner because of the fact that he will be starting for an NFL team in his first year but that's really the only reason why.  He's playing on a team that had a pretty terrible defense.  Arguably, the great Peyton Manning would have struggled to get this team to .500 last season.  This team is in need of a lot of help all over the field and that will take a few years to develop for Luck to truly be successful and for this to be considered a "win" for him.



Since: Jun 17, 2007
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:12 pm
 

Peyton Manning's release: Winners/Losers

The Colts are the losers in this.  Here's why:

1)  A HUGE amount of their fan base is made of people just like me:  I don't live in Indianapolis and I rooted for and enjoyed watching the Colts primarily because of Peyton Manning.  Now that he's going somewhere else, the Colts just lost all of that fan base.

2)  There is no guarantee Andrew Luck is ever as good as Peyton Manning. Even if you had Peyton for three more years, and that was it, it'd be worth it, because the Colts team isn't going to win with Andrew Luck at QB until they fix all the other gaping holes that MANNING made up for.  Yes, Manning was the MVP all those years, because without him, the Colts weren't even a four or five win team.

Conclusion: Indiana is going back to being a BASKETBALL state...cause the Colts just became IRRELEVANT!

The Winner is CLEARLY Peyton Manning:

1)  Forget the 28 Miliion Bonus he's not getting, he'll make all of that up in Free Agency...and even if he didn't...  there #2...

2)  He is going to sign with a team that will give him the best shot at winning a Super Bowl!  A team that will actually give him a defense where he doesn't have to rack up 35 points/game to win!  And, a running game!  And, he's taking Reggie Wayne with him!

HUGE WIN for Peyton Manning. And when people look back, it will be Irsay that gets the blame, not Peyton Manning. This is WIN, WIN, WIN, and WIN SOME MORE for Peyton Manning.

I'm looking forward to what jersey I'll be buying for this year!!!  I'm hoping for the RAVENS or DOLPHINS.

Manning with Rice, Wayne (assumedly), and Ray-Ray and the boys on D?  Can you say SUPER BOWL? 



Since: Nov 6, 2008
Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:01 pm
 

Peyton Manning's release: Winners/Losers

Could't disagree more. I enjoy young rebuilding teams. When that team finally starts winning it feels so good. I wish Peyton well whereever he goes, but I am a Colts fan first. 
Luck could  be a bust. But you have to draft someone. It sounds strange but I hope he does not have the greatness of Peyton.
Maybe the Colts will learn to build a better team around him. Pittsburgh is a great model. It is a quarterback driven league, but
my gosh I hope the Colts can become more balanced. Go Colts! Good luck to Peyton and really hope he gets another ring or 2 with
his new team




Since: Jan 2, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 8:50 pm
 

Peyton Manning's release: Winners/Losers

Don't be so quick to say Rob Lowe was half wrong.  Good chance Peyton does retire still for the time being.  He is not physically ready, and will not sign with a chump team just to sign. 


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Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 8:39 pm
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Since: Mar 6, 2012
Posted on: March 6, 2012 8:38 pm
 

Peyton Manning's release: Winners/Losers

How can you possilbly call this a win for the fans?   They lose their history and gain an untested QB.   Even if Luck works out it will be years before you can call indy a contender.   With Manning only two years ago, they were a superbowl level team.   I know of no fans that like to watch teams rebuild.   Fans like winners.   I suspect there will be more people watching Manning than Luck for the next few years.


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