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More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

Posted on: March 6, 2012 9:55 pm
 
Gregg Williams wasn't the only one to get hooked by the NFL on the bounty pools in New Orleans.  (AP)
By Josh Katzowitz

Sports Illustrated’s Peter King has an interesting story on the NFL’s investigation into the pay-for-performance ring* instigated by about two dozen Saints players and former defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, and some of the details that are unearthed are worth noting because it’s the first we’ve heard of them.

*I will not call it Bounty-gate. I will not call it Bounty-gate. I will not call it Bounty-gate. 

First off, read the first two paragraphs of the story, because it paints a tremendous picture of how the rewards were distributed in front of the entire defense and how, sometimes, the Saints would urge the honoree to put the money back into the pool instead of accepting it.

New Orleans' forgettable offseason
Aside from that chilling color, here are few more nuggets reported by King.

-During the 2009 NFC title game vs. the Vikings -- played in January 2010 -- in which New Orleans defensive linemen Bobby McCray and Remi Ayodel high-lowed Minnesota quarterback Brett Favre and badly spraining his ankle, defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove, after Favre temporarily left the game, excitedly proclaimed “Favre is out of the game! Favre is done! Favre is done!”

As King also writes, “An on-field microphone directed toward the sideline caught an unidentified defender saying, ‘Pay me my money!’”

-As we know, the investigation was halted for lack of evidence -- because everybody involved basically denied the bounty pool’s existence -- but it’s interesting to note how the NFL began looking into it in the first place. After the Vikings playoff game, Minnesota officials informed the league that it had information that a bounty had been placed on Favre and a bounty had been placed on Kurt Warner the week before.

Williams, Hargrove and assistant head coach/linebackers Joe Vitt all denied the allegations, and apparently, the investigators told Saints general manager Mickey Loomis to make sure there was no bound program. Loomis said he would.

Obviously, he didn’t. Which means he not only apparently lied to his boss but he also apparently lied to NFL officials. When the investigation started up again in last season’s playoffs, Saints owner Tom Benson told the NFL he would contact Loomis to make sure there was no bounty program.

-King also talked to Scott Fujita, who’s been very active on the player safety front. And who happened to be a big-time contributor (between $2,000-$10,000) to the bounty pool in New Orleans.

"Over the years I've paid out a lot of money for big plays like interceptions, sacks and special teams tackles inside the 20,” Fujita told King. “But I've never made a payment for intentionally injuring another player."

Still, paying into a bounty like that sort of clouds the message of player safety, doesn't it?

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Since: Aug 19, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2012 3:18 am
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

 
Can we see proof or is that just another exaggeration...I trust that Mr. Goodall will make a wise and fair decision after he interviews and sees ALL the facts, not just heresay from disgruntles players or manipulative people




      
;      um....... footballloverG you are aware I assume that williams ADMITTED he did this and he ADMITTED that he KNEW it was wrong when he did are you not?  Not sure how that is "hearsay" or "manipulative"



OH and BTW if youa re gonna post crap like that dont hide behind a new ID.  Use your regular one......coward.  



Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2012 11:46 pm
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

 I am a Redskins fan and was so upset with Snyder for letting hiring Jim Zorn after giving Williams the impression that he was going to be the new coach after Gibbs left.
 I am so happy now that they let this guy go. The Redskins have been bad for a long time and this surely would have crippled them if he was the head coach!



Since: Mar 3, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2012 11:44 pm
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

 I think that Goodell should give everyone involved to come clean for a lighter sentence. Those that don't step forward and are proven to have participated should be suspended for the season. That can't be too hefty of a price to pay since he would clearly be giving everyone a chance fess up.



Since: May 17, 2007
Posted on: March 8, 2012 10:15 pm
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

brees shouuld jump ship now, besides he's not getting contract he wants....wait a minute, that makes him a whiner!



Since: Mar 8, 2012
Posted on: March 8, 2012 12:33 pm
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

OK Seriously. The media is going crazy over all this...making more drama than a soap opera!! The Saints are gonna take the heat for the whole NFL and that's fine...we'll come back STRONGER. Not sure why people jump on the band wagon so fast to hate on this city or this team...Things shou;dn't be printed until it has been proven. You can't take the words back...Like the "Give me my money". Can we see proof or is that just another exaggeration...I trust that Mr. Goodall will make a wise and fair decision after he interviews and sees ALL the facts, not just heresay from disgruntles players or manipulative people.



Since: Oct 17, 2009
Posted on: March 8, 2012 9:39 am
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

Fujita is the biggest two-faced player in the NFL.  In 2007 with the play 1/2 way down the field he tried to take out Steve Smith with a low blow.  Amazingly he got away with it.  Steve Smith was quite lucky to get away injury free from Scott Fucheata cheap shot.  How he can be on the player safety is like putting a fox in a hen house.   He may have never made a payment to intentionally injury someone. BECAUSE HE WANTED TO DO IT HIMSELF.




Since: Aug 16, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 11:12 am
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

Just goes to show you the intelligence level of these players.  Screaming that Favre is done, asking to get their money on the sidelines. Everything is recorded on and off the field.
These guys deserved to get caught.  If nothing else for being downright stupid.



Since: Aug 19, 2011
Posted on: March 7, 2012 10:53 am
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

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What? What? What???!! What up CBS? Why did my post get deleted? I didn't use any cuss words. I said Goodell was demented. That's my opinion. I said he looked the other way and destroyed evidence in Spygate. That's absolutely true. It's not that I'm whinging, it's not that at all.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: March 7, 2012 10:49 am
 

More nuggets on Saints' bounties come to light

Keep dancing whodatnation....paying for "knockouts" or "cart offs" as Williams bounty system did is illegal and unethical.  Do you really expect Fujita to admit to it? You think he is going to come out and tell the players he plays against that "I've paid players to try to hurt you".  Doubt it.  Face facts, the Saints organization and the coaches/players involved are going to get hit and hit hard (n pun intended) over this deal, as they should.  If the NFL can prove the same type of bounties on other teams, they should get penalized heavily too.


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Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 7, 2012 10:16 am
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