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Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

Posted on: March 8, 2012 6:13 pm
 
Hargrove admits that he said 'Favre is done!' but that there wasn't a bounty on the former Vikes QB. (Getty Images)

By Ryan Wilson

The Saints' "pay for performance" bounty scheme that has led to apologies from former defensive coordinator Gregg Wiliams, head coach Sean Payton and general manager Mickey Loomis -- and will undoubtedly lead to stiff sanctions from the league -- has briefly taken a backseat in the never-ending news cycle thanks to Peyton Manning Mania.

But after Manning finds a new home, the Saints will still be on the hook for one of the biggest scandals in recent history: Williams rewarded players with cash payments for injuring opponents. Earlier this week, Sports Illustrated's Peter King reported several examples, including one from the team's 2009 Super Bowl season. CBSSports.com's Josh Katzowitz wrote about it Tuesday:

"During the 2009 NFC title game vs. the Vikings -- played in January 2010 -- in which New Orleans defensive linemen Bobby McCray and Remi Ayodel high-lowed Minnesota quarterback Brett Favre and badly spraining his ankle, defensive lineman Anthony Hargrove, after Favre temporarily left the game, excitedly proclaimed 'Favre is out of the game! Favre is done! Favre is done!' As King also writes, 'An on-field microphone directed toward the sideline caught an unidentified defender saying, ‘Pay me my money!’”

Not good.

On Thursday, Hargrove, who left the Saints after the 2010 season and played with the Seahawks in 2011, refuted King's report.

"In regards to the hit I made on Brett Favre that has been talked about: it was one of about five times I got to him and the only one that was late," Hargrove said in a statement. "I agree it was a late hit, but in the heat of the moment I was simply trying to make a play. I can assure you that when I got up, I was thinking two things, one, that I cost my team, and two, that I might have just cost myself some money if the NFL fined me.

"To put things in perspective, I received a game ball for my play that day and yet got fined while receiving nothing and expecting to receive nothing for the play some keep referencing. Kudos to Brett, he even asked me if that was all I had! Gotta love him."

Hargrove makes clear that he is speaking only for himself and admits that his "Favre is done!" comments were clearly in bad taste.

"But did I personally want Favre INJURED?" he asked. "Absolutely and categorically NO!"

Hargrove ends with this: "I have made many mistakes in my life and have paid dearly for some of them, and the late hit and the comments were both mistakes, in my opinion. But players all over the league do the same thing every Sunday, make late hits and say stupid things. But I can say with absolute certainty that neither the late hit nor the comment have anything whatsoever to do with the issue being so hotly discussed in the media."

Favre, for his part, said he wasn't upset by the hits he took in that NFC Championship game but we suspect commissioner Roger Goodell will feel differently, particularly in light of the evidence their investigation uncovered.

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Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: May 1, 2012 12:04 pm
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

Brett is probably upset nobody else wanted him to play for their team anymore and Kurt Warner just wants to stay in the media without a disturbance.
Hilarious!  So you are telling me that Minnesota would not sign Favre, to start over the garbage your team is currently trotting onto the field to play QB?  Favre made one comment that it didn't bother him.  You don't seem to understand that every man is entitled to their own opinion, whether it involves something as extreme as banishing a franchise, like you and the rest of your hatred filled fanbase.



Since: Mar 25, 2009
Posted on: May 1, 2012 11:57 am
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

In my opinion, the Saints Organization and, membership too the NFL , should be disolved !!!  All the players on that team should be banned from the top on down to the water boy's.  They should have the SB Trophy removed from their possesion and awarded to another team either in the AFC or NFC.  All the players who feel unjustly treated should have a hearing to see if they can get back into the league on another team all the while pronounced guilty until evidence can proove otherwise.

LA wants a team pretty bad, I say give it to them and wipe out the Saints and forever leave it a smear in the history of the NFL.


LMAO, only a vikings fan would say this.  Your entire fanbase has a grudge, and has ever since Favre choked away that game.  This issue has nothing to do with your feelings about the bounty's.  Id be willing to bet that I can go back on your postings and find similiar comments made before this event ever came out.  I've never seen a team whine so much about a game that YOU WERE SUPPOSE TO WIN, AND BLEW IT!!!!  I know it is hard to lose, but sometimes you just have to let it go man!




Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: March 11, 2012 4:32 pm
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

More " Plausable denial " by Saints fans,....give it a rest will ya?  These guys are liars and they already have been caught doing it and admitted to it, what more evidence is there for you not to understand???

Apparently in case you didn't know, in the NHL one Hockey players hits another player so hard he's messed up for the rest of his life.  The hit, clearly "intentional" and, prooved in a court of law.  The result, a cival suit against the certain player left him witout a home and,  lost everything he owned and still has more money to pay.  Even though he still can play hockey he was suspended for a determined amount of time.  Every Hockey team has "its 1 thug" and, his job is to get the other teams best player off the ice by either injury or put in the penalty box, so whats the difference in the NFL?  The difference will eventually come to rest with a player laying dead or paralyzed out on the field because of this.

 Don't any of you Saint fans understand these ramifications?  Get it threw your thick skulls, they admitted to this already, yet, some are still playing the "innocent" role, they know whats going to happen and, when it happens some guilty people may get away with it unscathed and, others, will not be so lucky.

You can come up with all the claims of denial you want, thats your choice but, if you read between the lines maybe you'll understand a little more clearly that "NOT ALL TEAMS DO IT", thats an excuse by a guilty person who will further use the "mistake clause" when in fact, there is no excuse - period!  Pointing a finger in the other direction is the result of insecurity hiding your own admission's.

In my opinion, the Saints Organization and, membership too the NFL , should be disolved !!!  All the players on that team should be banned from the top on down to the water boy's.  They should have the SB Trophy removed from their possesion and awarded to another team either in the AFC or NFC.  All the players who feel unjustly treated should have a hearing to see if they can get back into the league on another team all the while pronounced guilty until evidence can proove otherwise.

LA wants a team pretty bad, I say give it to them and wipe out the Saints and forever leave it a smear in the history of the NFL.




Since: Sep 20, 2011
Posted on: March 10, 2012 9:28 am
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

It's going to be great for the Saints and there fans when the evidence comes out and it's found that Saints had an incentive program like every other team and not trying to injure or mame. that's all the difference is, the media and league are saying injure and mame, saints are saying make a play to change the game....



Since: Jul 3, 2010
Posted on: March 10, 2012 8:16 am
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

Sure we believe you NFL thugs.....but were you trying to hurt him?  he would want to hurt you or his teammate would.  BE REAL.  You play the game YOU SHOULD EXPECT TO BE INJURED.  You drive in NASCAR you should expect to be in a wreck.  THIS entire subject of BOUNTIES....is circumvented by the CONCUSSIONS issue or non-issue....c'mon the NFL owners....they are not stupid and they will play their cards properly.  The NFL players you all are basically meat in a film....CAN YOU DIG IT!!!




Since: Mar 21, 2009
Posted on: March 10, 2012 1:41 am
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

Trouble is, there was a bounty , too many people admitted to it so either 1- he is telling a bold faced lie or 2- he is unaware of what is going on in his own lockerroom.  Which one do you think it is?



Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: March 9, 2012 6:19 pm
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

I bet Gregg Williams, Shaun Payton and all the rest of them guilty thugs are dropping bricks in their underwear right about now.  With some of these players speaking out through the media with investigative journalism's, it only entraps them more & more each time they open their mouths.
I love it!  LOL

Its ironic how Brett Favre and Kurt Warner try to remain "humble", yet, they can't man up and prefer to remain nuetral too a point.  Brett is probably upset nobody else wanted him to play for their team anymore and Kurt Warner just wants to stay in the media without a disturbance.  Both won the ultimate game and could have quite possibly won another but were maybe short changed yet wont ever admit it.  Its obvious to the naked eye Brett Favre has taken one too many bumps on the noggin but, as far as Kurt Warner go's, he just wants to remain neutral and not speak out about anything against anybody so he can remain in the position that he's in still in the game of Football.  Brett on the otherhand, doesn't really care about anything that go's on other than possibly kick himself for throwing interceptions in the last few games where things could have made a difference for him where he couldve won another SB game.  And I don't think Brett wants tot take anything away from Drew Brees.  The thing with Brett is, he wants to have his day in Green Bay one last time where they finally acknowledge he was playing for them.  After all the Packers org. offered him 20 million not to play for Minnesota.  When he went to the Jets there was a clause in his trading contract that forbid the Jets to trade him to the Vikings.  GB even cried tampering to no avail because it didn't exhist and later determined after investigation that there was absolutly no tampering ever done.  Yet somehow, the Jets parted way with Brett and he ended up in Minnesota anyway, and, as a free agent where they destroyed teams with pure talent, rather than having to use bounties to win a game, and, besides the Vikings were built to be SB contenders for the last few years, they just didnt have a franchise QB.  Ethierway, whatever Brett Favre says, he's into an alterial motive that he'll regret some day but, since he's a multimillionare, somehow I doubt he even cares what he says.  Brett left the Packers Org. by virtue of self destruction and hated them for what they did to him. lol  Ok so he does finally end up in Minn after all, then GB  figured they have to hate the guy like they hate all the other guys that leave their team to go ahead in life.  Now, its no doubt he wanted to be retired as a Packer, unfortunatlly for him that will never come to pass where he stands in front of that once glorious crowd where he gets the cheers & goodbye's he so respectfully deserved, at one time.  And, if, it ever comes to pass, the poor guy will hear nothing but "boo's.  On the otherhand, in Minnesota where the Vikings fans loved to hate the guy it took an about turn where they loved just to watch him play with the Vikings.  The funny thing about him is, nobody really knows what to expect because he might not have any regrets,..yet.



Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: March 9, 2012 4:52 pm
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

All the Saints team members & certain former Saints players are just using "plausable denial", their liars and, guilty as sin itself, they should "all" either be fined, suspended and then banned from competing in the NFL at the least a minimum of 5 years along with the SB award being removed from their Trophy case for the sake and decency and for the betterment of the history of the NFL.
The sickening thing here is the known fact that, Goodell, basically gave the the Saints that Superbowl with the help of the Referee's Association by suggesting they; turn a blind eye to a few Saint infractions, such as these late hits like "Roughing the Passer" and allowing the Saints Offensive line to "hold" the pass rushers of Minnesota.  He's just as guilty here himself and, he should step down from his position right after he hands down the punishment to the Saints team and players as well as former - retired players in which case, they should lose their retirement benifits.  The bottom line is; the cats outta the bag, admittedly both directly and indirectly they gambled and, the commited an illegal crime thats not only against League rules but both State & Federal law in every State they went to play in.  The fact of the matter is, not only other teams have an issue here but, fans of other cities.  They all in turn deserve a justifiable punishment and actually can file a cival suits either against the Saints Org. or, the NFL itself if dicipline isn't acchieved.
The next thing that will come to surface will be the Referee's Association and, they eventually will be investigated for corruption in due time. Along with that along comes the IRS investgating the Owners, Players, Coach's & Referee's.
Now heres the sticky thing on this subject, if Goodell trys to move too fast and sweep things "under the rug" like he had done in the past, Fans of other teams will no doubt demand a Congressional investigation & hearings will proceed.  This is where Prison terms, confiscation of property, fines from the IRS etc. will arrise.  So, in Goodells and his Attorneys better interest here, he needs to come down hard on all guilty party's and not just a few but, "all of them".  Discipline here needs to be justified with proper award - period!
Now in the Saints defense; its not only true that other teams in the League have used Bounties, such example here is; when the Packers Org. put a Bounty out on Adrian Peterson knee's.  It was absolute and, no secret and, even talked about before the game started by the media.  The eventual winner was Al Harris, a Cornerback who ran all the way across the field from his natural position to hit him against the knee.  It worked Al Harris won the pot and then it was later "denied" that there was a bounty on him.  There was never an investigation when in fact, there should have been one.  In lue of this there are other teams and or players that go on witch hunts and as another example of how Bobby Wade took out the dirtiest player in the League a few years ago - Rodney Harrison with a blindsided hit to the knee.  The bottom line is some of these guys just have that natural mean streak in them and, it don't matter where they play or what team they play for, they can ALL play dirty if they want to and if they can afford the fine being handed down they'll do it again.  The thing is, the NFL plays a favorite and, thats wrong.  In any event, the corruption in the NFL needs to be cleaned up.  Its the starting point of where to begin that comes into question and, it looks like to me New Orleans seems like the place where it will start to begin.
 Maybe if teams wouldn't look for that edge over their opponents with anything illegal, it would be a more interesting and honest game.  And speaking of honest game, take a long look at whoever they are that go post season with a weak Defense that is short on penalties for that year when in fact they should't be in the position their in.Surprised




Since: Sep 25, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2012 2:54 pm
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

I agree with you.  He deserves to be fined and kicked out of the league for lying after the whole issue has come out.  Especially after the coach and gm of the saints admit to it occurring.  Any Saints defense player during the bounty period that comes out now and tells lies should be kick out of football.  It is best for them to be quiet until Goddell hads out the penalty for bount hunting.  Only idiots would speak out right now.


Seems like one just did. Come on, people. English, please!   



Since: Sep 28, 2010
Posted on: March 9, 2012 2:21 pm
 

Hargrove says there was no bounty on Favre

Of course they weren't trying to injure Favre, that's totally believable. They just happened to hit him a ridiculous amount and he got hurt on accident. I love the Saints, but they are guilty of dirty play bottom line. 


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