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Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

Posted on: February 13, 2012 10:50 am
Edited on: February 13, 2012 3:50 pm
 
By: Adam Gretz

Just a little over a week after Zac Rinaldo received a pair of fines for a trip and a late hit against the New Jersey Devils, the Flyers forward will be answering questions from the NHL once again on Monday following a charging penalty against the Detroit Red Wings on Sunday night.

The NHL has a 1 PM disciplinary hearing with Rinaldo scheduled for Monday afternoon for this hit on Jonathan Ericsson late in the first period of Detroit's 4-2 win in the game that extended their home winning streak to a record-tying 20 consecutive games.



Rinaldo received a two-minute minor for charging on the play.

Even though a hearing is scheduled that doesn't mean a suspension is guaranteed, as it could also result in a fine or warning, or perhaps even nothing at all.

That said, the fact that Rinaldo was fined twice just last week probably isn't going to help him going in.

Previously at Eye On Hockey

Rinaldo fined for trip, late hit
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Since: Feb 3, 2011
Posted on: February 13, 2012 7:30 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

Cutter. Whether we like it or not in today's NHL you're allowed to admire your passes, you don't have to look up.  If the puck is gone and somebody hits a player, it's trouble for that player.   If you hit a player in the head, it's a possible suspension.  New rules in today's NHL..... not the old days anymore and more then likely never will be anything like the past ever again.
Agreed, but to me, that is a perfectly clean hit. For the record, I like the Wings and don't like the Flyers.

As for leaving his feet, that doesn't apply here. If you stop the video and the moment of contact, his skates are still on the ice or close enough. When you are skating fast and come to a stop, you have to crouch down to stay on the ice. If you remain upright, your inertia will send you into the air. Also, when checking, there is a natural upward motion. Rinaldo didn't "launch" himself at Ericsson, but rather left the ice as a result of his momentum and a natural checking motion.

He didn't target the head and kept his elbows in and his hands down. A textbook check, IMO.

If the league really wants to do something other than change the basic laws of hockey like always keep your head up / have your head on a swivel and don't admire your pass, they could start by changing the gear away from the body armor they currently wear and improve helmet technology. Might not have made a difference here, but it makes more sense to me than to change the integrity of the game which has the opposite effect of the desired result.



Since: Oct 5, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2012 7:13 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

If nancy-boy wants to admire his pass and not look at what's coming then he deserves to get his clock cleaned. In real time it's only a second or two that puck leaves his stick that he got hit. It didn't look like he left his feet, if this hit is illegal I fear for the future of hockey. Maybe they can all dress up in goalie pads so no one gets hurt. maybe they shouldn't play so hard, they could slip and fall, maybe they should take the skates away because they're sharpened. What we're going to wind up with is glorified gymnasium floor hockey, sure it's fun, but no one will pay to see it.



Since: Jan 2, 2008
Posted on: February 13, 2012 5:53 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

"true, but that's not what happened.  He left his feet as a result of the hit, which happens often in the NHL. "


Sorry but if you look at the reply, he definately jumped up into the check.  Rinaldo is much smaller than Ericsson and had to jump to hit him in the chin area.  Whether that is enough for a suspension is another thing.  It will probably come down to the "history" part as to whether he gets a vacation.  I wouldn't want players that did this once or twice to be sitting.



Since: Mar 14, 2007
Posted on: February 13, 2012 5:50 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

To me it looked like a clean hit to Ericsson's chest.  I think had Ericsson not made the backhand pass and still had control of the puck, nothing would have been called.  Granted players are bigger and stronger than in years past, but come on, you can not take the hitting out of the game.  If a gut is out there head hunting, that's one thing, but the way the NHL rule committee is going, we'll be watching high-priced squirts playing out there.



Since: Jan 2, 2008
Posted on: February 13, 2012 5:45 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

I think the key here is as the article states,  is being reviewed AGAIN because he has a recent history of questionable hits.  The fool who claims Kronwall left his feet must have been extremely drunk when they watched the game.  Kronwall led with his rearend and never left his feet even after the hit.  I would not be surprised if the NHL decides to make those hits illegal in the future also.  As of now it is still legal in the NHL to make checks. 



Since: Nov 3, 2006
Posted on: February 13, 2012 5:44 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

you cant leave your feet to hit an apponent. hence the charging call.
true, but that's not what happened.  He left his feet as a result of the hit, which happens often in the NHL. 



Since: Oct 20, 2008
Posted on: February 13, 2012 5:38 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

I would've thought the 2-minute minor was plenty.  But since the NHL wants to appear tough on dangerous hits, it's probably that additional disciplinary action will take place.  But that's all that will result: the appearance of seeming tough on disciplining dangerous hits.

Inevitably, Brendan Shanahan will take a variety of factors into the decision, such as whether Zac Rinaldo has a previous record of such conduct (arguably yes), whether Jonathan Ericsson was hurt (he wasn't), whether there was a legitimate play for the puck or Rinaldo wasn't taking extra steps (arguably yes), and so on.  But the reality is that a dangerous hit is a dangerous hit.  The NHL is unwilling to define what is an illegal hit exactly and to implement a standard punishment -- this is the ONLY way dangerous hits can be eliminated from the game.



Since: Feb 10, 2009
Posted on: February 13, 2012 5:25 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

I think we finally agree on something '69, your unfortunately very right in todays PC /pansy NHL. I just want the scoring and the fighting back that endeared me to this game so much when I started watching back in the late 70's and early 80's and although Im trying to accept what the game is today, it doesnt mean my opinions on how its played will change. Hockey goes through ebbs and flows and were in a lull in many respects IMO right now, scoring is down and obviously the fights. love hockey too much to give up on it but think the league needs to change many of its policies and wont say anyones name- but removing the head of the think tank would be a HUGE start



Since: Jul 4, 2009
Posted on: February 13, 2012 5:14 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

The hit was to his head head/jaw region. Plain and simple...



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: February 13, 2012 4:59 pm
 

Rinaldo has hearing for hit on Jonathan Ericsson

Cutter. Whether we like it or not in today's NHL you're allowed to admire your passes, you don't have to look up.  If the puck is gone and somebody hits a player, it's trouble for that player.   If you hit a player in the head, it's a possible suspension.  New rules in today's NHL..... not the old days anymore and more then likely never will be anything like the past ever again.


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