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NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

Posted on: March 9, 2011 11:31 am
 
The tenor could change. The tone could switch in an instant. But there's no question the talks between the players and owners have made a dramatic shift away from the positivity generated over the past week or so into a scarier area.

While discussions aren't on the verge of collapse the pessimism is suddenly extreme, according to several sources with knowledge of the discussions.

The notion that the union's desire for owners to open the books is a real issue but not the biggest, as has been reported by several media outlets, several sources told CBSSports.com. The transparency issue is more of a symptom of the larger problem which remains, quite simply, how to divide the billion(s) dollar pie.

The pessimism is extreme but remember it was this way last week and at the last minute the two sides agreed to an extension. That could happen again. These talks turn quickly, one way and then another, from hour to hour. Sometimes from minute to minute.

For now, however, the talks are in danger and the clock continues to make that ticking sound.
Category: NFL
Tags: Labor
 
Comments

Since: Nov 3, 2010
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:24 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

The owners are just like any other business owner - they OWN their businesses. I work for a physician owned medical group and agreed to do my job for a specified amount. It doesn't make any difference what the OWNERS profit/net pay ends up. If you're not happy w/ your salary/benefits (players)...then just quit playing football. You could get a job in the private sector, then wouldn't have to worry about what the owners bottom line is. You could worry about making ends meet and if you were going to be able to afford your children's education. Then again, might not even find a job w/ the current market. The point is no matter what your job or who you work for, it really doesn't matter how much profit the owner makes. It's none of your business! When working in the real world, nobody applies for a job w/ salary requirement that says "that depends on how much money you make with your business, we'll need to review your books and then I'll decide how much of your pie I'd like". So what if they make billions! Are multiple millions not enough for you? If not, go ahead and look for employment somewhere else. I bet your net income and benefits would be considerably less. Anyway, I love football (and have nothing against the players) but this is stupid. Take what you're offered to do the job or quit. Good luck and Git er' done!



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:19 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

Just checked out Burger2000 comment. at Green Bay Packers.com and he is correct, not only are they a Non-Profit Organization they are very Solvent and will be for years to come. Way to Go Pack. Some one knows how to run a Business



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:10 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

Burger2000! Good Catch. I thought it was something like that, but did not dig very deep.



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:06 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

Dyno003 is right. The Pac has been and will probably always will be in most cases one of the if not the most popular team for the last 50 years. I am a a Die Hard Saints Fan. They are my team but year in and year out you can not argue against the Pac. Dallas calls them selves America's Team. I say BS to that.



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:03 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

Dyon003, not only are you an idiot, you cannot spell for your life.

 "Green Bay Packers, Inc., has been a publicly owned, nonprofit corporation since Aug. 18, 1923, when original articles of

incorporation were filed with Wisconsin’s secretary of state."

Word of advice: It is better to say nothing and be thought a fool than to open ones mouth and remove all doubt




Since: Jun 10, 2010
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:03 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

The only logical reaction for the disgruntled NFL fan is to cancel their season tickets. Personally, I can't believe anybody would pay $10K for PSL's for the right to purchase season tickets! Plus pay full price for lousy pre-season games! What a joke!

The owners' greed is ridiculous. The only point I do agree with from their perspecitive is a rookie wage scale . Of course, this assumes that those bonus dollars will go to proven veterans who have earned a raise. Additional monies should also go to health care for retired players in need. But, the owners wouldn't be pushing for an 18 game regular season if they were concerned about the players' health. All in the name of presenting a "better quality product". Yeah, right.

Unfortunately, the players don't really hold the cards in these negotiations.  The owners won't open their books unless forced to do so at gunpoint. The players will be the ones to make concessions b/c where else will they make millions of dollars?  That degree in recreational management or sociology isn't going to be in high demand.




Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 4:02 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

Dyon003! I reread my comment and maybe I put it the wrong way. I did not say they were classified as a non profit organization.  I said they should be, but I was also corrected on that so maybe I used the wrong choice of words, my point was they are not private owned.



Since: Sep 5, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 3:59 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

Ergo the Saints were the most popular franchise in the league the year before, since they won the superbowl in 2010. 
Duh, winning.



Since: Nov 26, 2006
Posted on: March 9, 2011 3:57 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

GoWSox! I stand corrected thank you, I guess my point was they are not Owned by a Private Owner. Thanks for the Heads Up.



Since: Jan 20, 2011
Posted on: March 9, 2011 3:55 pm
 

NFL labor talks take pessimistic turn

LOL do you even know what makes a company "Non profit"?  The Packers are no wear being classified as non profit organization


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