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NFL, players close to starting mediation again

Posted on: April 10, 2011 6:39 pm
Edited on: April 10, 2011 7:19 pm
 
The players and owners might begin mediation as soon as late next week, two sources confirmed to CBSSports.com.

Where the mediation will be held is still in question. It could be back under the control of mediator George Cohen or under federal jurisdiction in Minnesota. The former is what the owners want and the latter is the desire of the players. Cohen has yet to return a call to CBSSports.com.

One source texted: "We're reaching a pivotal moment."

That's because another round of mediation could finally end the lockout and start the season. Sources on both sides felt a second round of mediation might lead to a deal.

Another source explained Judge Susan Nelson has said in no uncertain terms she wants both sides to try and work out an agreement. Nelson doesn't seem to be fooling around. The reason mediation has a chance is because she will be monitoring it closely and won't put up with any silliness.

"We got the message," said one source.



Category: NFL
Tags: Labor
 
Comments

Since: Mar 2, 2008
Posted on: April 11, 2011 4:13 pm
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

  The AVERAGE NFL player makes over $2million per year, with an AVERAGE career of 3.5 years or so is $7million -- the agent gets about 3%


You be crazy son.  The median salary is below that with the advent of league miniumums, players being cut throughout the season, and lowly practice roster moneys.  Your numbers be crazy and out-of-touch, just cause some guy at the top can earn 11 million does not mean the lowly ranked players get 11 mliion, when they are just scraping by with their $250,000/year conracts.

I wanna live in crazy land to, but it simply isn't avaliable to us human beings right now.



Since: Sep 13, 2006
Posted on: April 11, 2011 3:02 pm
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

Couldn't  have said it better! Can you imagine the players trying to use their degree and get a real job?



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: April 11, 2011 1:13 pm
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

The only problem with this plan is; it is both anti-capitalist and illegal. The owners of businesses in a related industry cannot collectively get together and decide that they'll cap salaries or product prices so as to limit competition amongst one another, that is the antithesis of "free-market." Like it or not, the owners operate under extremely favorable conditions as a result of there being a union
Math issues aside $1.5million x 60 players = $90million which exceeds the $75mill hard cap proposed), the owners can do exactly this IF there is a Union and it is part of the CBA -- that is the whole point of having a union and collective bargaining. 

Now, if there is no union, then the owners cannot "collude" and impose this plan, but they could individually decide that "I will not pay more than $200K/yr for any player" or something similar, schedule 20 games a year and say "take it or leave" it....some teams might set a max contract of $100K or $10million --it would be up to each team, but if they all decided to really cut costs that is what would "bust the union", which really does not exist any more. 




Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: April 11, 2011 1:08 pm
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

the greedy nfl billionaires need to open their books and pay the players all the money the union is demanding!  the players deserve a lot more money and the owners have plenty of cash.  The players are being locked out and don't have enough money to pay their bills due to the owners.  If they don't pay, the court will give the players triple damages so the owners better get with it soon.  The union is getting tired of this.


Why exactly should the owners "pay the players all of the money the union (which no longer exists btw) is demanding"?  What if the "union" demands 70%, 80% or 90% of all revenue.  The AVERAGE NFL player makes over $2million per year, with an AVERAGE career of 3.5 years or so is $7million -- the agent gets about 3%, they pay their taxes and the rest is theirs -- any careful investing at all and you are set for life. If the players do not have the money to pay their bills, that is their fault for not planning ahead, saving money.....the owners did not become billionairs by paying "all the money their employees demand".

Keep in mind, the owners also have to pay taxes (actually, the team would pay corporate taxes and whatever the owner takes as salary or dividends would be taxed again as personal income), not to mention paying payroll taxes, coaches, assistants, trainers, equipments, stadium rent/mortgage, utilitites, equipment, player medical costs, front office personel (GM, Assistants, secretaries, receptionists, ticket takers, etc), and the list goes on and on...if the owners and players are splitting $9billion in revenue, not all of the owners portion is "profit" -- just gross revenue from which they still have to pay all of the expenses listed above -- costs which escalate every year (I am sure, for example, all of the teams employees what raises every year, not just the players and we know things like insurance, utilities, medical costs don't go down, they go up, every year).

With the NFL minimum salaries and looking at an average salary of over $2million/yr I would say the players are paid plenty of money.



Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: April 11, 2011 12:45 pm
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

The only problem with this plan is; it is both anti-capitalist and illegal.
That's not the only problem.  He also didn't do his math.  With 60+ players on a roster (not even counting IR, practice squads, and other contingencies), $1.5 million per player would come out to over $90 million.  That means under his $75 million hard cap, you couldn't field a team, even if every player in the league made the minimum.



Since: Nov 16, 2010
Posted on: April 11, 2011 12:21 pm
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again




Since: Mar 26, 2010
Posted on: April 11, 2011 12:20 pm
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

Could not agree more.  How many really good players out there never make the team?  They would kill to make 250k a year to play football...but they are bagging groceries somewhere because they are 1 inch too short...

I hate to side with owners, but there are so many players that are waiting in the wings...  Get in there and do your job or find another career.



Since: May 29, 2008
Posted on: April 11, 2011 11:30 am
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

Oh my God 49erfan,
     Cry me a freaking river.  Of course buisnessman want to make more money.  They are the bosses, the owners, they should be making loads more than the employees (players).  If these spoiled little crybaby biotches can't handle living off of hundreds of thousands a year, than pack your crap and rely on that alledged college degree you supposedly earned for free cause of a football scholarship.  See how they like living off pennies on the dollar they were making playing a game.  Chilo Rachal can suck it.  How many americans lose their homes, their cars, their very souls paying for doctor bills for loved ones.  Oh poor baby had to go to the NFL 1 year early for mommy.  Poor baby.  Screw these f-ing players.  I know the owners can survive a lost season, but can the players.  Let them reap the disaster they help create.



Since: Dec 14, 2006
Posted on: April 11, 2011 10:37 am
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

@Big O.
What you and others like you fail to realize is that their are only a SMALL percentage of players in the NFL making so-called big money! NFL contracts are not garaunteed as opposed to the NBA! There are more players who are making a anywhere from $350,000- 1 mil.(think of a player like Arian Foster with the Texans who was a UDFA) a yr. and that's before taxes, agent and lawyer fees. Then not to mention if a player has a family situation such as 49ers (RG) Chilo Rachal who came out of USC early (he & his coaches and the media knowing full well that he could've used at least another year of seasoning) because of his mom's medical condition. She was on dialysis and her medicaid had run out and the family couldn't afford her health care costs without it, so he had to come out a year earlier to help provide for his mom! See, the owners want to say that the players are greedyBut out of the 32 teams in the NFL how many owners have another primary source of income? Because for most of these owners, owning a football team is business yes, but more of hobby. The Rooney's who own the Pittsburgh Steelers own the Heinz ketchup corp.! How much has the so-called recession hurt the sale of Heinz ketchup? And that's just the one investment outside of football that we know about because they advertise it with a big bottle of ketchup in the stadium. If we know anything about business owners is that they always want to make more money so they try to put their hands into any and everything they can! But they make the players do advertisements that they don't get paid for because they are written into the player's contracts, such as the United Way commercials etc..!



Since: Dec 14, 2006
Posted on: April 11, 2011 10:29 am
 

NFL, players close to starting mediation again

What you and others like you fail to realize is that their are only a SMALL percentage of players in the NFL making so-called big money! NFL contracts are not garaunteed as opposed to the NBA! There are more players who are making a anywhere from $350,000- 1 mil.(think of a player like Arian Foster with the Texans who was a UDFA) a yr. and that's before taxes, agent and lawyer fees. Then not to mention if a player has a family situation such as 49ers (RG) Chilo Rachal who came out of USC early (he & his coaches and the media knowing full well that he could've used at least another year of seasoning) because of his mom's medical condition. She was on dialysis and her medicaid had run out and the family couldn't afford her health care costs without it, so he had to come out a year earlier to help provide for his mom! See, the owners want to say that the players are greedyBut out of the 32 teams in the NFL how many owners have another primary source of income? Because for most of these owners, owning a football team is business yes, but more of hobby. The Rooney's who own the Pittsburgh Steelers own the Heinz ketchup corp.! How much has the so-called recession hurt the sale of Heinz ketchup? And that's just the one investment outside of football that we know about because they advertise it with a big bottle of ketchup in the stadium. If we know anything about business owners is that they always want to make more money so they try to put their hands into any and everything they can! But they make the players do advertisements that they don't get paid for because they are written into the player's contracts, such as the United Way commercials etc..!


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