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The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

Posted on: August 23, 2011 7:51 am
Edited on: August 23, 2011 9:55 am
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Or maybe it's part two million.

On Monday night the Giants' excellent defensive back, Terrell Thomas, tore his right anterior cruciate ligament. He's out for the season. It seemed that on the play his foot tripped up, leading to Thomas falling into a teammate. I saw the play and thought he sprained his ankle. But it was obviously much worse.

The play happened with 22 seconds left in the first half.

Twenty-two seconds.

Last year Thomas was one of the most underrated players in all of football leading the Giants in tackles. He's ferocious and speedy and now he's gone for the year because of a dumbass, meaningless preseason game that players don't need and owners only have because preseason is a cash cow.

Now, this is the part where you say: he could get hurt anytime. It could've been in the regular season. It could have been in training camp practice.

I hear those silly arguments all the time. If he'd been hurt in a regular season game at least there was a purpose to it. The game meant something. Getting hurt with 22 seconds left in the first half of preseason game? Tell me that means something. It doesn't.

Cut the preseason down to two games, which is what I want to do, and yes, Thomas still gets hurt. But you're cutting the odds of injury down significantly. (And Giants coach Tom Coughlin should not have had Thomas in the game during such a meaningless period to start with.)

The only reason there's preseason is because owners make huge profits off of it. They get to charge $8 for popcorn and $25 for parking with very little overhead. There's no bigger money making scheme in all of sports (except for maybe personal seat licenses).

I think owners have made profit-loss calculations that say a torn ACL here, a season ending shoulder injury there are worth it because the preseason generates them so much cash.

So another player goes down in preseason. One more reason why these games stink.
 
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Since: Aug 26, 2006
Posted on: August 23, 2011 2:58 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

I agree on preseason, only ebcause its stupid and the game is too violent to played for anytghing but real stakes.

its like pre season boxing. totally stupid. just play the games.

But......this injury was caused by artificial turf, his foot got caught and then his body twiosted another way, while his leg stayed where it as. If you've never ran on artificial turf, its hard to understand how awkward it is to run and cut on, how your cleats lock into it like two leggo pieces.  So many ACL/MCL etc injuries, not to mention the dreaded "turf toe" all because people cant play on real grass ?

weak.



Since: Jul 27, 2010
Posted on: August 23, 2011 1:39 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

I hate the "injured in 1st few weeks vs. preseason" thng. Do u REALLLY feel better if a guy goes out week 1 versus preseason? no...it doesn't matter. He's still out. You may care NOW and second guess him being in there...but if he gets hurt next game, or week one, fact is that he's still out most of the season.

On the contrary, it might be better to have a guy go out during preseason as you would still have some time to evaluate his replacement. If we got rid of 2 games and a guy went out in week one instead of preseason game 3, does it make a difference? NO. It's football, injuries happen no matter what time of the season it is



Since: May 4, 2011
Posted on: August 23, 2011 1:34 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

For most teams, about 85% (I'm guessing here) of their rosters are already set, hence, preseasonshould be about seeing what rookies and fringe players can step up/perform to an NFL level.  Starters do need to "be in sync" but there are better ways to do this other than a meaningless preseason game.  LT, for the Chargers, didn't play much, sometimes never, in the preseason, and most starting QBs play only a couple of series.  Do the same for the regular starters, and let the rookies, backups, etc. compete for the empty roster spots.  After two preseason games a coach pretty much knows who will make the team with only about 2 or 3 spots in question.  I'm for a longer training camp where players SLOWLY "get into playing shape" by stretching, cardio, etc.  Too many times players go full tilt before their bodies are ready and lots of camp injuries occur, IE hamstring pulls.  I have had numerous injuries, hamstrings, plantar fasciitis, etc., and my therapist have insisted that I fully recover BEFORE I resume my activities.  That is what training camp should be for.  In a game situation it is different, lots of people play hurt, but a longer training camp and a shorter preseason would go a long way to reducing injuries caused because players are not in top shape before they are desperately competing for a roster spot.



Since: May 7, 2009
Posted on: August 23, 2011 1:33 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

THERE'S NO DOUBT THE OWNERS MAKE MONEY ON THE PRESEASON. NO DOUBT AT ALL. HOWEVER, THEY ARE ENTITLED TO IF THE PEOPLE WANT TO GO AND SPEND THEIR CASH IN THEIR STADIUMS. ALSO, THESE GAMES GIVE "WRITERS" LIKE THIS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE STUPID STATEMENTS LIKE (And Giants coach Tom Coughlin should not have had Thomas in the game during such a meaningless period to start with.) TO STATE THAT THE COACH SHOULDN'T HAVE A PLAYER IN THE GAME AT A CERTAIN TIME IS MORONIC. ALL OF THE COACHES PLAN AHEAD OF TIME AS TO THE LENGTH OF TIME PLAYERS WILL PLAY IN THESE GAMES. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY PLAYER ON ONE OF MY TEAMS INJURED WHEN IT DOESN'T COUNT, MUCH LESS AT ANY TIME AT ALL. THEREFORE, WHY DON'T YOU GO THROW YOUR CHEAP SHOTS AT YOURSELF FOR THIS POORLY CONSTRUCTED AND NEEDLESS ARTICLE ON PRESEASON. 



Since: May 10, 2007
Posted on: August 23, 2011 1:14 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

$25 for parking?  Get real!  Try $47.50 or $100 in Chicago.  It hasn't been $25 for over a decade. 



Since: Apr 3, 2009
Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:17 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

Cut the preseason down to two games, which is what I want to do-------Freeman still living in a world where he matters. What you want to do HAS NOTHING to do with what the NFL wants to do. Write your silly columns and be quiet. 



Since: Feb 14, 2008
Posted on: August 23, 2011 12:07 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

I don't even know why I read this guys stuff.  He is the classic "I told you so" writer who just sits back and picks at every decision without ever putting real subtance in his articles:

Freeman: "Your player got hurt, what were you thinking playing him in the pre-season"

or

Freeman:  "Your team looks 'out-of-synch' and there is no consistency.  Why didn't you get them more reps in the pre-season?"

He got hurt.  **** happens.  It's nobody's fault and trying to blame this on someone is ridiculous.



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: August 23, 2011 11:24 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

(And Giants coach Tom Coughlin should not have had Thomas in the game during such a meaningless period to start with.)
I can't believe I am agreeing with Freeman, but he is right on this one. What was he still doing in the game? He was next to their last healthy CB. Stupid.

Free games would mean less profit, more expense for owners, and as a result reduced payroll for the players.

Do you really want that to happen?

Umm, yeah. Unless you think the NFL isn't making enough money as it is. I only go to games sporadically, and are usually paid for by my or a customer company. Why anyone would waste their time and money to see David Carr or Caleb Heine duke it out for 3/4 of a meaningless game is beyond me unless it is tremendously discounted or free.



Since: Aug 28, 2006
Posted on: August 23, 2011 9:44 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

Agreed.  The preseason serves a purpose.  It gets the veterans back into rhythm, it gives the new guys a chance to show their stuff, and it gives the coaches a chance to make a bunch of decisions.



Since: Sep 14, 2006
Posted on: August 23, 2011 9:37 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: Preseason stinks part 200,000

I find it funny that at the top of the article there are two times listed; one is the time posted and the other the time "edited".  If this article had been truly edited, the name 'Pryor' would not appear once and certainly not more than once.  Freeman is terrible.

On another note, how is cutting the preseason to two games going to stop injuries like this, Freeman?  Injuries CAN happen in mini-camps, training camp, preseason, and the regular season.  However, according to your reasoning, if the preseason is only two games long, no injuries will happen.  That sounds like a good idea, except.....it makes no sense....

Please relieve Mike Freeman of his writing responsibilities.


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