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NFL memo details more Saints bounty accusations

Posted on: March 2, 2012 6:42 pm
Edited on: March 2, 2012 6:53 pm
 
An NFL memo to all of its clubs details yet more of what is becoming one of the biggest sports scandals in recent NFL history. Details of the memo were obtained by me from a team official. Here is a summary of what parts of the memo states.

Funds for the Saints bounty system, the memo states, weren't solely contributed by players. People close to the Saints team contributed as well. One was a felon: Michael Ornstein.

Ornstein was once Reggie Bush's marketing agent and is close friends with Saints coach Sean Payton. Ornstein spent time in prison for fraud and the Saints -- somewhat -- have cut ties with Ornstein.

But in 2009 Ornstein was a fixture around the Saints site. The NFL memo to teams state that then Ornstein pledged $10,000 towards the quarterback bounty in 2009.

Then, on at least two occasions in 2011, Ornstein again contributed to a bounty fund on an opposing quarterback.

The NFL memo also states there was a bounty paper trail. Ornstein put details of the bounty system in an e-mail to Payton, according to the NFL memo. In that e-mail, Ornstein committed $5,000 towards yet another bounty.

This just gets worse and worse for the Saints. 
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Since: Jan 22, 2010
Posted on: March 11, 2012 5:29 pm
 

NFL memo details more Saints bounty accusations

  I want to see the Saints entire team punished, fines, suspensions and lifetime bans and Draft picks stripped away.  I want their rings removed and, I want their NFC Championship stripped and awarded to the proper team who actually won the game with "fair play".  I also want to see that Super Bowl Trophy taken away.
  Anything less than that, is blatent ignorance in Goodells part.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2012 3:11 pm
 

NFL memo details more Saints bounty accusations

But an incentive, motivational, program that is practiced by almost every defense in the league gets outed and
Again, you miss the point.  The "incentive, motivational, program" that the Saints are accused of, and have now ADMITTED, is against NFL rules.  Payton, Loomis and Willis have all come out and admitted (1) is was wrong, (2) it was against NFL rules and (3) they knew it was against NFL rules and they did it anyway.  You can't defend that but alleging, or even proving, others did it too.  That just means, if true, there are more teams/people that need to fined, suspended and/or fired, not that the Saints should not be punished...and yes, I would say the same thing even if my favorite team were found to be involved in a similar bounty system for injuring players.



Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2012 3:06 pm
 

NFL memo details more Saints bounty accusations

The Saints organization was not asking of players to go out there and purposely end a career, hit them in the huddle, on the sideline, or outside the rules of the game.


Reports are comng out left and right about countless teams having similar programs in line. Players are confessing and even ratting out there former coaches. Joe Gibbs had the audacity to speak out on this, than got thrown under the bus...
You are right, they did not say "end his career" and they certainly did not want their players to be brain dead enough to hit people in the huddle or on the sidelines.  That said, paying players for "knockouts" and "cart offs" is illegal (as in against NFL rules if not actual state law), dangerous and unethical as, for example, "knockouts" are going to be caused by a blow to the head--again dangerous and illegal and, yes, potentially career ending.  Similarly, encouraging players to try to injure another player by offering a financial incentive can certainly lead to the extra elbow, twist of an ankle or knee, etc that could in fact end careers.

The "other teams did it too" cry is not a defense.  Those teams/players, if proven, need to penalized too rather than trying to use it to excuse the Saints conduct.  However, most of what I have heard from other players is allegations of bonuses for tackles, sacks, interceptions, etc, not for knocking out another player or causing them to be carted off with an injury; and the Saints are the first "bounty" system I have heard of tied to a felon.  Quit defending the Saints on this one, there is no excuse for this bounty system.



D.WhoDatNation
Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2012 2:41 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: March 6, 2012 2:21 pm
 

NFL memo details more Saints bounty accusations

Look, I'm sure that this is sensative to you and other fans of the Saints, but if the Bears management, coaches, and/or ownership were involved in a current sponsorship of Play to Maim, I would absolutely want each of them fired and banned from the NFL. Period! I'm not talking about when Halas was the coach, or Dick Butkis, or even the '85 Bears - that was a differenct time and era. But, the current NFL, and Goodell has made this clear, is not going to be akin to this. Former Bear Dave Duerson killed himself after concusion related trauma. I know the NFL is a tough guy sport, and these guys play voluntarily, but they do not assume that another team is sponsoring a program to have them carted off the field!!!!

Get a clue, man. This isn't steroids, that are used by individuals. This would be like having the team SUPPLY the 'roids and require the players to use them, or get cut from the team. As for the facts - hey, if Goodell doesn't find enough evidence in the 80,000 documents they have, then great - no penalties. But, this is not going in that direction my friend. This is way too far down the delta for Dat.


D.WhoDatNation
Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 6, 2012 12:29 pm
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Since: Jun 25, 2010
Posted on: March 6, 2012 11:59 am
 

NFL memo details more Saints bounty accusations

When this first came out a few days ago, I was outraged that a team and coaching staff could sponsor such a program. This has been said many times by now, but this is NOT just a bunch of defensive players getting together and buying a round for the guy that put a big hit on the other team's star. This was team sponsored and that is the horrible part. Having read so many rants by the WhoDatNation, I now am in favor of even harsher sanctions against the team itself, because somehow, Goodell needs to get the message to these fans that their team went in a horribly improper direction and the stronger the sentence, the more likely their fans might be to realizing that.


D.WhoDatNation
Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 9:20 pm
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Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2012 9:12 pm
 

NFL memo details more Saints bounty accusations

These idiots need to be banned just for being dumb enough to leave a paper trail. Who is dumb enough to do that? Or, Who dat dumb enough to do dat? The Saints coaching staff I guess. 



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: March 5, 2012 9:10 pm
 

NFL memo details more Saints bounty accusations

PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE, AND COMMENTS, BEFORE POSTING
Stop posting this everywhere. The article doesn't even pertain to the story tard. 


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