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Posted on: December 16, 2011 11:33 am
 

Cubs name coaching staff, poach long-time Card

By Matt Snyder

New Cubs manager Dale Sveum has rounded out his coaching staff, the Cubs announced Friday via press release.

The biggest hiring of note is a first-base coach, as Dave McKay will take over. That is noteworthy because he has held the same position with the rival Cardinals for the past 16 seasons. He was also with Tony La Russa in Oakland for 10 years before that, so it's going to be quite the change for McKay.

Chris Bosio has been named the pitching coach. He previously served as the pitching coach for the Rays in 2003 -- he left the post for family reasons -- and the Brewers for the last several weeks of the 2009 season. He's also had great success in the minors as a pitching coach. During the Winter Meetings, Sveum spoke very highly of Bosio's tough-love approach with his pitching staff.

Also, Pat Listach has been moved from bench coach to third-base coach. Jamie Quirk will be the bench coach. Rudy Jaramillo (hitting coach) and Lester Strode (bullpen coach) will remain with the Cubs in their same positions.

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Posted on: November 14, 2011 7:05 pm
Edited on: November 14, 2011 7:07 pm
 

Rookie award may not predict future success

By C. Trent Rosecrans

The Rookie of the Year awards are unique among baseball awards in that they are somewhat less about an individual year's performance as much as they are for the hope of better things to come. A Rookie of the Year win is a footnote on any Hall of Fame argument, not a bullet point. Meanwhile, any Hall of Fame argument will start with MVP wins for position players and Cy Young trophies for starting pitchers. If you have those, you have an argument, and if you won Rookie of the Year, that's nice.

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No, Rookie of the Year is something to dream on -- there's the potential and what a player could become based upon a solid rookie year.

Jeremy Hellickson and Craig Kimbrel may end up being the best players of the 2010 rookie class, but it wouldn't be a real shock if they don't.

With that in mind, I wanted to look back on the past Rookie of the Year winners and what players had the best careers after winning the award and which ones peaked in their first year. Because this particular argument needs time for perspective, I've broken up the last 20 years in five-year increments. Below are the winners of the awards each year for both leagues, as well as their Wins Above Replacement (from Baseball-Reference.com) for both their rookie year and their career, as well as a decision on the best player in retrospect, the worst and the best duo from one year.

 

2006-2010 Rookie of the Year
Year AL ROY ROY WAR Career WAR NL ROY ROY WAR Career WAR
2010 Neftali Feliz 2.3 5.0 Buster Posey 3.1 4.4
2009 Andrew Bailey  3.9 7.2  Chris Coghlan 2.1 2.8
2008 Evan Longoria  3.8 24.1 Geovany Soto 4.1 10.1
2007 Dustin Pedroia  4.3 24.3 Ryan Braun  1.5 21.8
2006 Justin Verlander  3.7 27.2 Hanley Ramirez  5.2 29.3

Best: This is where we need perspective -- and time. Right now it looks like you could go with any of six candidates -- Justin Verlander (AL 2006), Hanley Ramirez (NL 2006), Dustin Pedroia (AL 2007), Ryan Braun (NL 2007), Evan Longoria (AL 2008) and Buster Posey (NL 2010). In 10 years this may be easier to pick, but right now it's just way too close to call. Of the group, Ramirez has the highest career WAR.

Worst: Again, this is still way too early to call, but Chris Coghlan (NL 2009) may take this dubious honor. There's plenty of time for him to turn it around, but he finished 2011 hitting .230 at Triple-A New Orleans.

Best duo: Another toss-up -- 2006 had Ramirez and Verlander, while 2007 featured Pedroia and Braun. Check back in 10 years and this may seem to be an easier choice, but right now it's too close to call.



2001-2005 Rookie of the Year
Year AL ROY ROY WAR Career WAR NL ROY ROY WAR Career WAR
2005 Huston Street 3.2 10.7 Ryan Howard 2.4 23.1
2004 Bobby Crosby 1.4 5.0 Jason Bay  2.2 19.7
2003  Angel Berroa 4.0 3.3 Dontrelle Willis 3.7 13.0
2002 Eric Hinske  4.0 10.3 Jason Jennings 1.7 7.4
2001 Ichiro Suzuki 7.6 54.5 Albert Pujols 6.9 88.7

Best: Albert Pujols (NL 2001). He may be the best player of our generation and best right-handed hitter of all time. With apologies to Ichiro Suzuki (AL 2001) and Ryan Howard (NL 2005), it's Pujols and it's not close.

Worst: Oh, Angel Berroa (AL 2003). Acquired in the deal that sent Johnny Damon and Mark Ellis to Oakland, Berroa last appeared in the big leagues in 2009. The Royals shortstop won the award over Tampa Bay's Rocco Baldelli and Hideki Matsui, earning the scorn of Yankees owner George Steinbrenner. 

Best duo: Pujols and Suzuki would be a heck of a Hall of Fame class, not to mention a rookie class. Suzuki won not only the Rookie of the Year in 2001, he also took home the American League MVP.

 

1996-2000 Rookie of the Year
Year AL ROY ROY WAR Career WAR NL ROY ROY WAR Career WAR
2000 Kazuhiro Sasaki 1.5 4.0 Rafael Furcal 3.6 33.1
1999 Carlos Beltran  4.4 60.8 Scott Williamson  2.7 8.2
1998  Ben Grieve 2.5 6.7 Kerry Wood 3.7 24.9
1997 Nomar Garciaparra  5.9 42.5  Scott Rolen 4.5 66.2
1996 Derek Jeter 2.6 70.4  Todd Hollandsworth 1.3 6.5

Best: Scott Rolen (NL 1997) and Carlos Beltran (AL 1999) have had fantastic careers, but Derek Jeter (AL 1996) is a first-ballot Hall of Famer and a baseball icon. Jeter also has the highest career WAR among the group of rookies.

Worst: This one is tough, if you guy by WAR, it's Kazuhiro Sasaki (AL 2000), who had just a 4.0 career WAR. However, Sasaki was 32 when he started in the United States and played just four seasons in the majors. In addition to his Rookie of the Year, he made the All-Star team in 2001 and 2002, recording 129 saves in four seasons. I'm going to take Ben Grieve (AL 1998) slightly over Todd Hollandsworth (NL 1996) based solely on Hollandsworth holding on longer (12 years to nine) and finding his late-career niche as a pinch hitter, while Grieve did appear in the majors after his 30th birthday -- and just 17 after his 29th birthday.

Best duo: How about Rolen and Nomar Garciaparra (AL 1997)? Garciapparra never quite lived up to the rival to Alex Rodriguez and Jeter as the greatest shortstop of his generation, but he was in the conversation for a time there. While each year from 1996-2000 had at least one pretty good pick, 1997 was the only one to produce two players that finished with double-digit career WAR.



1991-1996 Rookie of the Year
Year AL ROY ROY WAR Career WAR NL ROY ROY WAR Career WAR
1995 Marty Cordova 3.0 6.4 Hideo Nomo 4.5 50.6
1994  Bob Hamelin 2.5 2.4 Raul Mondesi  2.2 27.2
1993  Tim Salmon 5.2 37.6  Mike Piazza 7.0 59.1 
1992 Pat Listach  4.5 3.9  Eric Karros 0.3 9.0
1991  Chuck Knoblauch 2.3 41.2 Jeff Bagwell 4.7 79.9

Best: WAR likes Jeff Bagwell (NL 1991), the Hall of Fame will like Mike Piazza (1993). Either way, it's tough to go wrong. Unlike the Hall of Fame voters, I'll take Bagwell over Piazza, but can see both sides of the argument. I"m in the camp that Bagwell is one of the more underrated players of his generation. 

Worst: Yet again, the award goes to a Royal. Bob Hamelin (AL 1994) had a 2.5 WAR in his rookie year and 2.4 for his career. Pat Listach (AL 1992) also has a lower career WAR (3.9) than single-season WAR for his rookie season (3.9), but the be speckled Hamelin did less in his career than Listach, even if most of Listach's value came from his rookie season.

Best duo: Again it comes down to the 1993 choices (Piazza, Tim Salmon) and 1991 (Bagwell, Chuck Knoblauch), with 1991 taking the crown. Knoblauch and Salmon both had good careers, with Knoblauch winning four rings and Salmon one. Knoblacuh was a four-time All-Star, Salmon never appeared in the game. Knoblauch also won a Gold Glove, despite his woes throwing later in his career. Going by WAR, the 1991 duo beats the 1993 pair, 121.1-96.7.

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Posted on: November 4, 2010 5:17 pm
Edited on: November 4, 2010 5:37 pm
 

Brewers' pitching coach up in the air

Ron Roenicke In kind of an interesting in retrospect kind of way, Brewers manager Doug Melvin (picutred, right) revealed the eight candidates he interviewed for the managerial job.

According to Tom Haudricourt of the Journal Sentinel , in addition to the man they did hire, Ron Roenicke (pictured, left), the team also considered Bobby Valentine, Bob Melvin, Joey Cora, Don Wakamatsu, Tim Wallach, Eric Wedge and Pat Listach.

Melvin -- the GM, not the candidate -- also said the Brewers never made an offer to Valentine, as was reported by several national reporters.

"It never got that far," Melvin said. "We did not make him an offer."

Haudricourt also said Melvin told him his new manager, Roenicke, will meet with the team's pitching coach Rick Peterson, who is under contract for next season. If the two don't hit it off, the Brewers could still make a change.

"I want to wait until Ron sits down with him and see what happens," Melvin said.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Posted on: November 1, 2010 12:12 pm
 

Listach will be Cubs bench coach


Nationals third-base coach Pat Listach is leaving D.C. to become bench coach for Mike Quade in Chicago, according to Bill Ladson of MLB.com.

Listach has a history with the Cubs -- he managed in their minor-league system from 2006-08 -- and expressed interest in the job that eventually went to Quade, though it doesn't appear he was ever a serious candidate.

A source tells Ladson the Nationals will look outside the organization for a new third-base coach.

-- David Andriesen

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Posted on: October 26, 2010 8:43 pm
Edited on: October 27, 2010 12:41 am
 

Valentine may be a finalist for Brewers' job

Bobby Valentine Bobby Valentine may be one of the mystery two candidates for the Brewers job, FOXSports.com's Ken Rosenthal tweets .

White Sox bench coach Joey Cora and former Mariners and Diamondbacks Bob Melvin are the two known of four finalists.

The final candidate may be Angels bench coach Ron Roenicke, who has reportedly interviewed with the team and is not on the list of those who have publicly said they've been told they're not finalists, such as Nationals third-base coach Pat Listach and Dodgers Triple-A manager Tim Wallach. Recently-hired Mariners manager Eric Wedge also reportedly interviewed for the job.

But the most important part is with Valentine in the mix, I get to look through more photos and find fun photos of Valentine in Japan and post them.
 
UPDATE: Sports Illustrated 's Jon Heyman writes that Valentine is indeed a finalist.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Posted on: October 24, 2010 12:00 pm
 

Sveum out of Brewers, Pirates manager races

Dale Sveum The Brewers announced Saturday night that Dale Sveum has agreed to a two-year deal to remain the team's hitting coach -- that means he won't be the manager in Milwaukee or Pittsburgh.

Sveum was interviewed by the Pirates and in signing his new deal with the Brewers, was told he wouldn't be the manager in Milwaukee.

"If I can't be a manager somewhere, there's nowhere else I'd rather be," Sveum told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel .

The Brewers manager will inherit his hitting coach and pitching coach, as Rick Peterson has one year remaining on a two-year deal.

Brewers general manager Doug Melvin said the team would look outside for its next manager. According to the Journal Sentinel , the team has paired a list of 10 down to four for secon interviews. Bob Melvin and Joey Cora are among the finalists, while Washington bench coach Pat Listach has been told he is no longer a candidate.

From the beginning, Bob Melvin has been seen as the favorite -- despite the potential confusing over a manager and general manager with the same surname.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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Posted on: October 21, 2010 5:58 pm
 

Brewers trim manager list to four

Bob Melvin The GM and managerial races are nearing an end, with many teams having either announced their new leaders or on the verge of doing so.

One such team is the Brewers, who narrowed the field of candidates to four after concluding the first round of interviews.

The list, according to the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel , is being kept confidential but GM Doug Melvin did reveal he interviewed eight candidates and plans to knock the list down to four.

"We're narrowing the names down," said Melvin. "There are a lot of qualified people out there, guys with major-league experience and some without major-league experience. We're getting close [to doing a second round]. It'll probably be four guys."

Melvin would not confirm any candidates that interviewed, but reports have listed six:
  • White Sox bench coach Joey Cora,
  • Nationals third base coach Pat Listach,
  • Angels bench coach Ron Roenicke,
  • Dodgers Triple-A manager Tim Wallach, who will coach third base for the Dodgers if not hired as manager elsewhere,
  • Eric Wedge, just hired to skipper Seattle, and
  • ex-Mariners and Diamondbacks skipper Bob Melvin (pictured), thought to be the favorite.
Given Melvin revealed he has interviewed eight, that leaves two others as unknowns. Bobby Valentine did speak with the team about the position, but it was informal and was not an actual interview. Melvin also spoke with Brewers hitting coach Dale Sveum, who he has already ruled out.

That's not to mention that the list above might be inaccurate.

"Some of the names [reported] are right and some aren't right," said Melvin. He did, however, add that there aren't any names under consideration that are currently involved in the postseason.

Melvin expects the process to take another seven to 10 days, meaning no decision will be made until after the World Series.

-- Evan Brunell

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Posted on: October 18, 2010 7:42 pm
Edited on: October 19, 2010 11:34 am
 

Cora, Listach to interview in Milwaukee

Tuesday will be a busy day in Milwaukee, as both Nationals third-base coach Pat Listach and White Sox bench coach Joey Cora will interview for the manager position, Tom Haudricourt of the Journal Sentinel reports .

Bob Melvin, considered by most as the leading candidate for the job, will interview on Wednesday.

Bobby Valentine has also been mentioned as a candidate for the job. Tim Wallach has already interviewed, as has Eric Wedge, who was named the Mariners' new manager on Monday.

-- C. Trent Rosecrans

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