Tag:Carson Palmer
Posted on: June 17, 2011 4:30 pm
Edited on: June 17, 2011 6:13 pm
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Hot Routes 6.17.11: Palmer still could be traded



Posted by Ryan Wilson
  • When quarterback Carson Palmer said he would retire if the Bengals didn't trade him, owner Mike Brown didn't budge. And Brown still hasn't. But NBC Sunday Night Football analyst Cris Collinsworth, who played for the Bengals in the 1980s, thinks Brown will eventually cave and try to move Palmer.
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Posted on: June 10, 2011 8:28 pm
Edited on: June 10, 2011 9:02 pm
 

Lewis: Dalton could be Bengals' Week 1 starter



Posted by Ryan Wilson

It's all about perspective. In January, shortly after the Bengals put the finishing touches on another underwhelming season, pretty much everybody -- Marvin Lewis included -- figured the team would have a new head coach in the coming weeks.

Somehow, owner Mike Brown didn't fire Lewis -- and Lewis didn't quit -- which only makes sense in the Groundhog Day/bizarro/funhouse-mirror world of the Cincinnati Bengals. Although Lewis will be back for a ninth season, the team will look decidedly different in 2011.

Quarterback Carson Palmer has threatened to retire if the team doesn't trade him, and wide receiver/soccer hopeful/amateur bull rider Chad Ochocinco has likely caught his last pass in Bengal stripes. Which opens the door for second-round pick Andy Dalton and a bunch of young receivers, including first-rounder AJ Green.

Lewis, appearing on ESPN 101 in St. Louis, spoke on a variety of topics, including whether Dalton could be under center in Week 1.

“Well that’s something we are going to have to see what happens and how it plays out, but there’s no question when we selected Andy Dalton we selected him with that in mind -- that he’d possibly be our opening day starting quarterback,” said Lewis, according to SportsRadioInterviews.com.

Different strokes for different folks, we guess. The Panthers, Titans, Jaguars and Vikings all drafted quarterbacks in the first round (Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder, respectively), but none are expected to start.

Cincy backup Jordan Palmer, who referred to his brother as a "former teammate" earlier in the week, will have a chance to win the gig. But he won't have the luxury of knowing the playbook any better than Dalton; offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski was fired during the offseason and was replaced by Jay Gruden. Everybody's learning a new system.

When asked about Carson's decision to call it a career unless his trade demands are met, Lewis sounded like a man who had long since come to terms with losing the one-time face of the franchise. "Those decisions don’t come overnight," Lewis said. "Those are things that sit in your belly for a long time and they really have a tendency to bother you, so it’s a good decision that he made to move on with the rest of his life and we understand that and accept that. We’ve put things together to move forward, and we’re excited about it. It’s been a great offseason that way, and when we get an opportunity to start working with our players we’ll be fired up and ready to go.”

By most accounts, the organization did a swell job of using the April draft to re-stock the roster. Cincy landed their quarterback of the future in Dalton, the best college wideout in the country in Green, and both will join a young group of pass catchers who showed gobs of potential late last season. Whether it will be enough to improve on a 4-12 record is another matter entirely. But it's not like Lewis hasn't dealt with losing before; in his eight previous seasons, the Bengals finished above .500 just twice. This time, though, the task should be easier if for no other reason than Lewis won't be preoccupied with trying to keep Ochocinco happy.

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Posted on: June 10, 2011 2:00 pm
Edited on: June 10, 2011 2:49 pm
 

Hot Routes 6.10.11: Getting it (not) right



Posted by Josh Katzowitz

  • The Eagle-Tribune, a small newspaper in Massachusetts, reported Thursday that the lockout was over (the linked story, BTW, has been amended). The Internet quickly poo-poo’d that report, though. Even NFL spokesman Greg Aiello tweeted a Yogi Berra reference (It’s not over ‘til it’s over). I think it’d be great if the Eagle-Tribune actually was the media outlet which broke the lockout-is-over news. In fact, if it can’t be us here at CBSSports.com, I’m rooting for the E-T to be the ones leading this story. Go get ‘em, boys.
  • CBSSports.com’s own Mike Freeman explores how NFL players are talking trash about LeBron James on their Twitter accounts.

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Posted on: June 8, 2011 8:00 pm
 

Jordan refers to Carson as 'former teammate'

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Perhaps it was a Freudian slip or wholly intentional. Either way, we chuckled at Jordan Palmer's comments Wednesday about his brother Carson, who had been the Bengals' starting quarterback the last seven years before proclaiming this offseason that things were so dysfunctional in Cincinnati that if he wasn't traded he would retire.

Meeting Wednesday with the local media for the first time this spring, Jordan was asked about Carson.

“The route I’m taking is I’m focused on the Bengals and myself. I’m getting myself prepared to be the guy and if I’m not I want to get this team as prepared as they can be. I’m separating myself from what Carson is doing. He’s my brother but he’s a former teammate going a different route and I’m focusing in what is front of me.”

Hear that, Carson? Former teammate. That shot across the bow came from your own flesh and blood. 

Actually, we're guessing that Jordan and Carson have discussed their NFL futures, and it's no secret among the Palmers or those with just a passing interest in football: Carson is serious when he says he'll retire if the Bengals don't trade him.

(That said, we were convinced that Carson quit midway through the 2010 season and was secretly replaced by Jordan, who was stuffed into a No. 9 jersey and assumed the starting role with predictably disastrous results. It would certainly explain Carson's steep fall-off from legit franchise quarterback to noodle-armed has-been.)
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Other than referring to Carson as a "former teammate," Jordan's comments were about what you would expect from a backup competing for a starting gig. Even in early June, during the middle of a lockout, Jordan is a long shot. The Bengals selected Andy Dalton in the second round of the 2011 draft and they sound like it will be his job to lose once the labor situation is settled. That possibility, however, hasn't changed Jordan's mindset.

“I definitely want to be the guy, I’m preparing to be the guy," Palmer said, according to Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer. "I’ve also told him (Dalton) that if he’s the guy it’s not because I’ve helped him out too much. It’s going to be because he’s more ready and better. When Carson came here he had Jon Kitna here to help him be a pro. I’m going to help him be a pro. I’d love to help him get there as fast as he can.”

During a normal offseason, Dalton's youth and inexperience would make Jordan the early favorite. But labor issues, and having to learn an entirely new offense (the club fired offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski after the season and hired Jay Gruden) means that everybody's behind. Veteran guard Bobbie Williams still feels sorry for the rookie.

“I don’t know. I’ll just say, God help the young man. I mean, he’s placed in a challenging position. But you know what, in this profession you’re always placed in a challenging position, it’s up to you how you (react) to it.”

If recent Bengals history is any guide, Dalton's in for a long season.

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Posted on: May 16, 2011 5:31 pm
 

Palmer's Cincinnati home under contract

This is C. Palmer's $2.1 million home (Special).Posted by Josh Katzowitz

If you were thinking of trying to pony up the $2.1 million that Bengals QB (soon to be former Bengals QB) Carson Palmer wanted for his Cincinnati-area home, you can stop searching the couch cushions for loose change.

According to the Comey & Shepard Realtors web site (via the Cincinnati Enquirer), Palmer’s house is under contract.

I guess that means, if for some reason, Palmer returns to the Bengals (though he’s definitively on record as saying he’d rather retire than step foot into Paul Brown Stadium again), he’s probably going to have to rent a one-bedroom basement apartment. I hope he can spare the $600 a month.

And if not, there’s another Cincinnati QB named Jordan Palmer who would probably let him stay in his basement for a small fee.

Photo courtesy of Comey & Shepard Realtors.

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Posted on: May 11, 2011 9:39 pm
 

Did Hawks and Hasselbeck talk between lockouts?

Posted by Will Brinson

The Seahawks are one of several teams in a precarious position, quarterback-wise, as they have limited talent signed to the roster and didn't pick up anyone during their "zany" decision-making in the 2011 NFL Draft.

But here's some good news: Adam Schefter of ESPN reports that Seattle offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell called Hasselbeck back in between lockouts (aka "the before time"), the two talked and is "as likely to return there as he ever was."

This is on the heels of the news from Pete Carroll back in March that the two sides tried to work out a deal, but just weren't able to come to terms. Perhaps the next time they sit down and talk post-lockout, it'l be easier to put a deal together.

This is a pretty logical solution for both Hasselbeck and the Seahawks, really: Hasselbeck needs a place to start and he loves being in Seattle. The team needs a quarterback and did make the playoffs with Hasselbeck on the roster last year; they have to believe that they still have a window to make a run, given their division.

If Hasselbeck doesn't return, Seattle's situation becomes significantly more dire: either they'd need to roll the dice with Charlie Whitehurst or pull off a trade for someone like Kevin Kolb or Carson Palmer.

Given the small window of time that could be open between the end of the lockout and the beginning of the season, neither one of those is even close to guaranteed, making Hasselbeck the closest thing to a sure thing in Seattle.

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Posted on: May 11, 2011 6:30 pm
 

Lewis: If Palmer comes back he would be starter

Posted by Will Brinson

When the Bengals went out and drafted Andy Dalton with their second-round pick in the 2011 NFL Draft, they made a bold statement by calling Carson Palmer's bluff (you know, the one where he says he's retiring).

Then on Wednesday, Marvin Lewis did the total opposite of that on a call with Bengals' season ticket holders, by telling them that if Palmer comes back, he'll still start.

"If Palmer comes back he would be the starting QB and we would groom Andy to be the QB of the future," Lewis said, per Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer.

There normally wouldn't be a whole lot wrong with this, because you'd think Lewis and the Bengals want Palmer to come back and tutor Dalton. Actually, you'd know that because Lewis just said it. But if you're trying to bluff someone on retirement -- and that's what the Bengals appear to be doing with their draft plans -- you wait until the bluff's been seen through before showing your hand to the other player.

In this case, Palmer now knows, once again, that the Bengals are desperate for him to return. If he believed that they a) were fine with rolling with Dalton and b) would not trade him, things might be different.

But they're not. And why would you expect them to be -- this is the Bengals after all.

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Posted on: May 8, 2011 2:31 pm
 

AFC North draft truths revealed

Posted by Andy Benoit

One of the best things about the draft is that from it we can find out what teams really think about their current players. Excluding examples of teams filling obvious needs, here are some of the more revealing draft picks from 2011, with a quick blurb of what the team was really saying by making this pick.

Baltimore Ravens

2nd round, Torrey Smith, WR, Maryland
We’re not sure we want to re-sign T.J. Houshmandzadeh, and we need a downfield playmaker anyway. Plus, Derrick Mason can’t play forever…right?

3rd round, Jah Reid, OT, UCFA. Dalton (US Presswire)
Jared Gaither is far too flaky to bank on, and we prefer to play Marshall Yanda at guard.

4th round, Tandon Doss, WR, Indiana
We’re aware of the Torrey Smith-Darrius Heyward-Bey comparisons.

Cincinnati Bengals

1st round, A.J Green, WR, Georgia
We’re as sick of Chad Ochocinco as everyone else.

2nd round, Andy Dalton, QB, TCU
We’re not going to give an inch with Carson Palmer. Problem is, we don’t think he’ll give an inch with us either.

3rd round, Dontay Moch, OLB, Nevada
We’re not sure Michael Johnson has the ability or drive to be a stud starting linebacker. And we might be starting to realize the same thing about Keith Rivers.

Cleveland Browns

1st round, Phil Taylor, DT, Baylor
We need defensive linemen in the worst of ways. Taylor is perfect because he’s Shaun Rogers without being Shaun Rogers.

2nd round, Greg Little, WR, North Carolina
Why spend a first-round pick on Julio Jones when you can get a handful of extra picks and a player who, talent-wise, is not all that far off from Jones? All it takes is a little maneuvering and a slight willingness to overlook character concerns.

Pittsburgh Steelers

2nd round, Marcus Gilbert, OT, Florida
At some point offensive line coach Sean Kugler won’t have the patience of Job and will start pounding his fists on the table.

3rd round, Curtis Brown, CB, Texas
Yeah, yeah, we know about Green Bay’s spread formations in the Super Bowl. But a third-round pick isn’t going to do the trick. That’s why we’re praying we can re-sign Ike Taylor.

Check back throughout the week for other division’s Draft Truths Revealed. To see all Draft Truths Revealed, click the “Draft Truths” tag.

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