Tag:John Fox
Posted on: July 26, 2011 10:23 am
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Report: Kyle Orton on trading block already

Posted by Will Brinson

The NFL's trading season, per the official 2011 NFL calendar, officially opened at 10:00 a.m. ET on Tuesday. But there are already some names (Kevin Kolb!) on the trading block; go ahead and add Kyle Orton of the Broncos to that list.

That's because the Broncos reportedly put Orton up on the block, per Mike Klis of the Denver Post. Klis writes that Denver will "begin the business" of the NFL's season by putting his name out there and will be "entertaining offers for Orton" per sources.

However, Klis doesn't necessarily mention precisely what the Broncos would want in return -- we've previously heard they think he's worth a second-rounder -- but he does say if they don't get the proper value in return they won't bite.

In other words, despite the fact that Tim Tebow's been organizing workouts with receivers this offseason, and despite the reports that the starting quarterback job is "his to lose," well, he's probably still going to end up competing with Orton up until the start of the year. (And, yes, technically Brady Quinn.)

There's definitely a market for quarterbacks out there, but two things really pop out about the way Denver is handling this situation. One, even in Madden, players aren't thrilled with their front office when they're publicly lobbed on the trade market like a piece of meat. And while I understand Denver is all about transparency and yet hasn't said that they'll trade him, come on -- you don't publicly shop a guy for mediocre value and then expect him to come back and be all smiles and sunshine.

Secondly, everyone realizes this is John Fox coaching this club right? John Elway might be in charge of the player and personnel moves, but if we're talking about a Fox-coached football team, you have to remember that this is going to be a run-first, keep-it-safe offense.

And while Tebow might very well be able to play the role of game manager for Foxy, it would be somewhat surprising to see the coach entrust his first year on the job to someone so young.

That being said, if the Broncos can find someone willing to give up a second-round pick for Orton, Fox may not have a choice.

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Posted on: July 17, 2011 4:33 pm
Edited on: July 17, 2011 4:59 pm
 

Is QB job Tim Tebow's to lose in Denver?

Posted by Ryan Wilson

The Josh McDaniels era began in 2009 with a 6-0 start, but a 5-17 finish sealed his short tenure in Denver, and he was fired with a month left in the 2010 season. The Broncos now have a new coach, John Fox, but many of the problems that happened on McDaniels' watch remain. Chief among them: the offensive backfield. Specifically, who will be the team's starting quarterback in 2011.

Since coming to Denver from Chicago two seasons ago, Kyle Orton has started 18 games and thrown for more than 7,400 yards. He ranked 12th in both 2009 and 2010 in QB efficiency, according to Football Outsiders, yet indications seem to point to Tim Tebow winning the job for 2011.

McDaniels drafted Tebow in the first round of the 2010 draft, and opinions varied widely about not only what type of NFL player Tebow would be, but where he would play. Some thought of him as a wildcat specialist, others suggested he should move to tight end or H-back, and a few teams wanted him to stay at QB. Denver was one of those teams.

NFL.com's Steve Wyche, speaking on the Cover Two Podcast (via Rotoworld), says that "…unless [Tebow] gets hurt in training camp or is absolutely awful," it'll be his job to lose. And a previous report from NFL.com's Jason La Canfora suggested the Broncos will "hold firm" on their second-round price tag for Orton, though Wyche believes the organization would settle for a third-rounder. Denver will then look to sign Jake Delhomme as a mentor once he's released by the Browns.

This isn't the first time we've heard the Delhomme-to-Denver rumors; he was close with Fox when both were in Carolina, and appears to be at the point in his career where he'll happily serve as a backup and mentor to a young quarterback (which is what he ended up doing the second half of the 2010 season in Cleveland, when injuries forced rookie Colt McCoy into the lineup).

It also means that what Fox said last month -- the QB job is wide open among Tebow, Orton and Brady Quinn ("I've said it before and I mean it: It'll be a competition.) -- may still be technically true, but if Orton is traded, Tebow would have to have a miserable training camp for the Broncos to go into the year with Quinn under center. In fact, we don't think Tebow could play poorly enough to lose the gig. Worst case: you put him out there and let him learn by doing. It's not like Denver can do much worse than their 4-12 effort in 2010.

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Posted on: July 8, 2011 5:00 pm
Edited on: July 8, 2011 5:07 pm
 

Hot Routes 7.8.11: Tebow, Orton or Quinn?



Posted by Josh Katzowitz

  • Broncos coach John Fox has a vague idea who will start at quarterback for his team next season. But he is positive about one thing: "I prefer a gamer to a good practice player.”
  • In regards to Redskins QB John Beck, ESPN.com’s Dan Graziano is pretty sure the Redskins aren’t trying to tank the season in order to grab Andrew Luck No. 1 in the 2012 draft.
  • Former Redskins coach Joe Gibbs is going to be holding a reunion for those he coached from 1981-92 in Huntersville, N.C. Hopefully, all the cool kids will be fat and balding and all the nerds will have hot wives.
  • The Steelers have held training camp at St. Vincent College for the past 45 seasons. The organization and the school, if at all possible, would like to continue the streak, assuming the lockout is lifted in time.

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Posted on: June 21, 2011 9:04 am
Edited on: June 21, 2011 1:10 pm
 

Fox: Orton, Tebow, Quinn will compete for QB job

Posted by Ryan Wilson

New Broncos coach John Fox may not have access to his players, but he's used the lockout to watch film of every game of each player on Denver's roster.

"I like the guys on our team right now, but I can't tell you how much yet," Fox told the Denver Post. "I've only spent one day with them. You find out how much you like them when you get on the field with them. There's nothing like seeing them with the naked eye."

And despite the rumors that Kyle Orton could end up elsewhere when the 2011 season starts, Fox still contends all three quarterbacks -- Orton, Tim Tebow and even Brady Quinn -- will compete for the starting job.

"I've said it before and I mean it: It'll be a competition," Fox said. "Competition is what this game's about, whether if it's an opponent or a depth chart. It's been this way as long as I can remember."

Fair enough, but Tebow seems to be the favorite; Orton appears destined to be traded; and Quinn, as has been the case for most of his NFL career, could be the odd man out.

Not that it means anything because players from around the league often work out together in the offseason, but Orton trained with Larry Fitzgerald recently. That the Cardinals are in the market for a new quarterback only fuel the rumors.

Depending on when the lockout ends, there's also the slim possibility that Fox might want to acquire veteran QB Jake Delhomme (they were together in Carolina) to serve as a mentor. And since Orton is entering his seventh year in the league, it's safe to assume Delhomme would be working with Tebow. That's another sign that Orton might not be long for Denver. But that's less surprising than Fox saying Quinn has a legit shot at the starting job.

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Posted on: June 15, 2011 10:06 am
Edited on: June 15, 2011 1:22 pm
 

Fewell still confident about coaching prospects

FewellPosted by Josh Katzowitz

A few months ago, after Giants defensive coordinator Perry Fewell had gone 0-for-4 on landing a head coaching job in the offseason, Fewell felt fine about his position in the NFL.

He didn’t wonder if he had taken over for Leslie Frazier as the hot new Rooney Rule token interview. In fact, he felt as if the Rooney Rule helped him get his face and his ideas in front of the executives who hire head coaches – not just those who needed new coaches immediately, but for the entire league.

And just because the Browns job went to Pat Shurmur and the Broncos job went to John Fox and the Panthers job went to Ron Rivera and the 49ers job went to Jim Harbaugh – all of them beat out Fewell for those respective positions – that doesn’t mean Fewell feels hopeless.

Instead, Fewell – who was in charge of a Giants defense that ranked No. 7 in the league last year (after it was No. 13 in 2009) – is a confident man.

His attitude hasn't changed. Fewell still feels pretty good about his spot in the NFL.

“I know now, probably more so than ever, that I’m ready,” he told the Newark Star Ledger. “I’m prepared to lead a club and an organization and a football team into battle on Sundays to win a Super Bowl. I learned a lot about administration and organization and preparation as far as the interview process is concerned.”

Fewell's journey
Not only has Fewell steadily improved New York’s defensive ranking, he also has true proof that he can be a successful head coach. In 2009, the Bills fired Dick Jauron midway though the season, and they elevated Fewell – the defensive coordinator in Buffalo – to the interim head coach position.

Almost miraculously, Fewell led the Bills to a 3-4 record during the final seven games, giving his head coaching profile a huge boost. It was a wonderful performance by Fewell, and though the Bills passed him over in order to hire Chan Gailey, Fewell suddenly became a legit candidate.

Obviously, he went undefeated in NOT getting a new job this offseason.

But like Frazier before him, Fewell eventually will land his head coaching job. And it will have had nothing to do with the Rooney Rule.

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Posted on: June 6, 2011 11:15 am
Edited on: June 6, 2011 11:38 am
 

Maybe Delhomme can mentor Tebow in Denver?

Posted by Ryan Wilson

It happens every time a team hires a new coach: he populates the roster with players from his previous team, ostensibly because he knows them better than the players he just inherited. Rex Ryan brought Bart Scott and Jim Leonhard with him to New York from Baltimore, Josh McDaniels had Jabar Gaffney from New England, and the Cardinals are now known as Steelers West because Ken Whisenhunt has yet to meet a former Pittsburgh player he wouldn't sign in Arizona.

Which brings us to John Fox, the new guy in Denver, who likely spends his days trying to figure out who will be the Broncos starting quarterback once the season starts. Kyle Orton seems the obvious choice after passing for almost 7,500 yards and 41 touchdowns the last two seasons. But Denver also drafted Tim Tebow in the first round of the 2010 draft, and it wasn't to convert him to tight end. Like it or not, Tebow will be in the mix for the job once training camps start, and there has been interest from quarterback-needy teams in Orton's services should he become available.

In Sunday's Denver Post, Mike Klis writes about the ambiguity surrounding the Broncos quarterback situation and the issues that come with naming Orton or Tebow the starter.

"Orton would be a controversial starter to the enormous contingent of Tim Tebow followers, and to those who believe the Broncos can't move on until they find out whether the memoirist can cut it as a winning NFL quarterback," Klis notes before adding, "Tebow would be a controversial choice to those who don't believe he's ready, and because his enormous fame and squeaky-clean image seems to polarize the masses.

"The Broncos could begin the season with Orton as the starter and Tebow the backup, so long as Fox understands that the tension of starting the clock on Tebow Time would be wound tight. If Tebow is the starter, Orton would be too disgruntled, and rightly so."

That last bit sounds familiar.

Klis then puts forth an idea that only Fox could get behind: "For Tebow to properly develop, he needs a backup who knows his place. ...Jake Delhomme would make sense in helping Tebow and the Broncos transition into the Fox era."

The only problem is that if Tebow got injured during the season, Delhomme would, you know, have to actually play. Fox has firsthand experience with what Bad Jake can do to an offense, although the man did cry when the Panthers released Delhomme a year ago. But no one -- not even Fox, presumably -- thought the Browns were shrewd in paying Delhomme $7 million in 2010 when it was clear he had nothing left.

That said, Delhomme dutifully assumed his role as backup and mentor to rookie Colt McCoy last season. There's no reason to think he wouldn't be willing to do the same for Tebow, especially if it reunited him with Fox. It just has to be with the understanding that Tebow is a long way from being a consistent NFL starting quarterback. If fans have the patience to let Tebow learn by doing (and let's be honest, "fanaticism" and "tolerance" aren't often mentioned in the same breath), it could accelerate his progress.

On the other hand, the Broncos traded franchise quarterback Jay Cutler to the Bears after the 2008 season. We're not convinced moving Orton just so Tebow can play is in the long-term best interests of the organization. It probably goes without saying, but Broncos fans have McDaniels to thank for all this.

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Posted on: May 31, 2011 4:14 pm
Edited on: May 31, 2011 9:58 pm
 

Report: Tim Tebow organizes workouts for WRs

Posted by Ryan Wilson

In the months leading up to the 2010 NFL Draft, there was speculation that Tim Tebow, college phenom, would be a flop in the pros, at least as a quarterback. There was talk that he'd be moved to tight end or H-back, or maybe even linebacker. The Broncos, then coached by Josh McDaniels (who also happened to be the Patriots' offensive coordinator during the record-breaking 2007 season), thought enough of Tebow to take him with the 25th overall pick.

Kyle Orton, who was coming off a 3,802-yard passing performance that included 21 TDs in '09, began 2010 as Denver's starter, but after suffering bruised ribs, Orton gave way to Tebow for the final three games of the year. The results: a loss to the Raiders, a win against the Texans and a season-ending loss to the Chargers.

Most of the time it wasn't pretty. Tebow ended the year completing half his throws for 654 yards, five TDs and three picks (and added another 227 yards on the ground), but putting up pretty stats isn't his calling card. It's his toughness, his tenacity and his ability to lead his teammates.

With McDaniels out, new coach John Fox named Kyle Orton the starter, with Tebow and Brady Quinn in the running. (At least that was the case earlier this month when Fox told season-ticket holders as much during a conference call. If the price is right, however, the situation could change.) That hasn't stopped Tebow from preparing like a starter, even with the uncertainty surrounding the 2011 season.

ESPN's Adam Schefter reported Monday that Tebow organized his own team workouts in Jacksonville with Broncos wide receivers.

"Last week, Tebow flew Broncos wide receiver Brandon Lloyd, Jabar Gaffney and Britt Davis to Jacksonville, put them up in a nearby hotel, and then led a week of workouts in his hometown, [a league] source said," according to Schefter.

"Each of the Broncos receivers had hoped to come, the source said, but Eric Decker had another commitment, and Demaryius Thomas (torn Achilles) and Eddie Royal (strained hamstring) were unable to practice at this time due to lingering injuries."

Schefter adds that the receivers who showed up in Jacksonville "considered it such a success that the group plans to reconvene in another week or so in Arizona for two weeks of intensive workouts."

No word on what, if anything, Orton has planned.

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Posted on: May 25, 2011 11:44 pm
Edited on: May 30, 2011 11:04 am
 

Is Knowshon Moreno headed for a third down role?

Posted by Andy BenoitK. Moreno (US Presswire)

Knowshon Moreno may have to order new business cards soon. Jeff Legwold of the Denver Post believes the third-year pro could soon have the job title of “third-down back.” This would technically be a demotion for the “starter,” though in today’s two-back NFL, the drop from first to second string is not always significant.

New Broncos head coach John Fox had a two-back offense in Carolina, featuring a pair of first-rounders in DeAngelo Williams and Jonathan Stewart. There are whispers that Williams, a free agent, could wind up in Denver. (A lot will depend on what the 2011 League Year rules turn out to be; Williams would be only a restricted free agent if the NFL sticks with last year’s rules.)

The Broncos figure to want a bigger back to lean on. At 5’11”, 210, Moreno is not undersized per se, but he does not have the frame or playing style of a 25-touches-per-game guy. Durability has been an issue in his career, though most of his injuries have pertained to pulled muscles, which don’t have a lot to do with size and strength.

Moreno is a mechanical runner, so there’s no guarantee he’d thrive in a strict third down capacity. But given his open-field athleticism, it’d certainly be a bet worth making.

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