Tag:Carson Palmer
Posted on: March 21, 2011 12:48 pm
Edited on: March 21, 2011 2:22 pm
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Carson Palmer is in the Dolphins' sights

Posted by Andy Benoit

All indications suggest that the Bengals are coming to grips with the fact that Carson Palmer will not be back with the team in 2011. The veteran quarterback is said to be as sC. Palmer (US Presswire)tubborn as owner Mike Brown. If both remain stubborn, Palmer will retire.

But what if Brown gets wise and deals the former No. 1 overall pick? Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald believes it could be the Dolphins.

Salguero asserts that Palmer is not only superior to Chad Henne (and it’s easy to compare the two considering they’re both tall, strong-armed pocket passers) and better than the rest of the 2011 veteran quarterback market, which includes Vince Young, Kevin Kolb, Kyle Orton, Matt Hasselbeck and Donovan McNabb.

Salguero writes, “None of this is my opinion. It’s the opinion of folks within the Miami organization who have done the work. This comes from folks who have watched the films or crunched the numbers or done the evaluations or talked to the men who did.”

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It’s doubtful Salguero heard these sentiments from Jeff Ireland or Tony Sparano. Neither is very transparent with the press. Dolphins scouts are forbidden from talking to the media, but a dirty little secret is that many of them do anyway.

The decision will be made by Ireland (or owner Stephen Ross). Ireland might be more willing to draft a young quarterback and develop him. Sparano, given his tenuous job status, would presumably love to have a proven veteran he can plug in right away.

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Posted on: March 18, 2011 9:22 am
Edited on: March 18, 2011 12:26 pm
 

Warner: Palmer could be 'tremendous' in Arizona

Posted by Will Brinson

Everywhere Kurt Warner goes, there's always one particular question that people ask him. "Who's going to play quarterback for the Cardinals?"

That's because Warner, after retiring after 2009, left a pretty big void on Arizona's roster; filling it has become the top priority for 2011. And Warner had some pretty interesting thoughts about how would work for Ken Wisenhunt's crew in the upcoming season, including a certain quite disgruntled Bengals quarterback.

"I think a guy like Carson Palmer would be tremendous in that kind of system," Warner told Chuck and Vince on the Fan AM 1060 Thursday.

Warner also shared some advice on a guy he's played with plenty of times in his career, Marc Bulger.

"The thing I always look at putting guys in certain systems is, how does it fit what they have done in their career and how does it fit their skill set?" Warner said. "If the Cardinals want to do what we did when I was there, I think Marc fits the bill extremely well. He is a very accurate passer down the field, he can read defenses, he understands the system they plasy there and can do those things very well."

Of course, going with Bulger doesn't preclude the Cards from drafting a quarterback, either. And there's a decent chance that Arizona will have a look at No.2-ranked quarterback on the CBSSports.com big board: Cam Newton.

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"He doesn't have quite as much speed as I do, but unfortunately that's not one of those things you can teach," Warner joked. "He's an extremely talented young man, but I'm one of those guys -- as talented as he was, as good as he was in college -- I'm always leery of taking someone high to the NFL that hasn't based their career on reading defenses in the pocket and throwing the football. Because at this level it's very rare to go far in the playoffs with a guy who runs -- as opposed to passes -- first, that looks to create with his feet -- as opposed to his arm -- and I can't remember the last one -- if there's ever been one -- who's won a championship."

For what it's worth, Warner praised Newton for being a "great kid" and "talented" and he's not really taking shots at the Auburn product. In fact, he's just making the same point that everyone else has made: Cam Newton is a gamble.

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Posted on: March 13, 2011 6:17 pm
 

Could lockout help veteran quarterbacks?

Posted by Andy Benoit

If there is an extended lockout that winds up wiping out the offseason, veteran quarterbacks are going to become extremely valuable. Teams with needs at the position would be looking for guys who could step in and play right away.
M. Hasselbeck (US Presswire)
Obviously, this concept would seemingly make re-signing Matt Hasselbeck an even greater priority for the Seahawks. But should the 35-year-old not return to the Pacific Northwest, Jim Wyatt of the Tennessean believes he could land in Nashville.

I have no doubt Matt Hasselbeck is one name on the Titans’ radar,” Wyatt writes. “The long-time Seahawks quarterback, scheduled to be an unrestricted free agent, has ties to a Titans front office that includes GM Mike Reinfeldt, VP of Player Personnel Ruston Webster and Director of Pro Scouting Lake Dawson.”

Wyatt makes clear that Carson Palmer is at the top of Tennessee’s wish list, and that other available quarterbacks with less mileage than Hasselbeck (namely Kyle Orton and Kevin Kolb) could be in the mix.

This segues into a larger issue: how valuable will veteran quarterbacks be if there is no offseason?

Free agency will likely open up before the lockout concludes. Thus, teams will have to make their decisions based in part on predictions about when a new CBA will be reached. If the hunch is that a deal won’t be reached until late August or September, look for veteran quarterbacks with on-field playing experience to command more than their normal market value.

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Given the experience factor, a longtime starter like Hasselbeck would be more valuable than a young quasi-starter like Kolb. But perhaps more valuable than Hasselbeck would be a more traveled starter like Orton. Think about it: Hasselbeck has spent virtually his entire career in a West Coast offense. Orton learned multiple offenses in Chicago and Denver. He’d likely have an easier time picking up a new system on the fly.

The most interesting quarterback case to follow this offseason could be Donovan McNabb. He’s an experienced veteran with a stacked resume. Yet, the reason he’ll likely be available is because the Redskins didn’t think he did a good job learning Mike Shanahan’s unfamiliar system in 2010. If that stigmatizes McNabb in this uncertain offseason environment, he could suddenly find himself structurally unemployed.


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Posted on: March 9, 2011 10:15 pm
Edited on: March 9, 2011 10:17 pm
 

Has Ochocinco 'lost his nerve and work ethic'?

Posted by Will Brinson

A lot of mock drafts -- including those of Rob Rang and Chad Reuter here on this very site -- have A.J. Green, the seventh-overall prospect on our board, going to the Bengals with the fourth overall pick.

While Green's talent certainly elevates Cincinnati's interest, so does the likelihood that they're ready to move on from the Chad Ochocinco/Terrell Owens era. Firming that theory up a report Wednesday from CSN New England's Tom Curran on that very subject.

Curran reports, via a "well-informed source," that Ocho "has lost his nerve and work ethic."

Burn. This probably means that Curran can expect an offer to rumble at some point from Ochocinco. Oh, and that the Patriots aren't interested in inking Chad, which was actually the point of the whole thing in the first place.

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One interesting trade Curran does mention, though, is getting Steve Smith from the Panthers for a third-round pick.

I'd actually argue that the Panthers need to get a touch more than that, particularly because the Patriots currently hold the Panthers' second-rounder (the first pick in that round), and, unless Carolina's front office is completely devoid of human emotion, they'd probably like to recoup close to as much as they gave to New England last year so they could draft Armanti Edwards. Who, um, hasn't quite panned out like Smith.

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Posted on: March 9, 2011 5:52 pm
 

Signs of a Carson Palmer trade on the horizon?

C. Palmer (US Presswire)Posted by Andy Benoit

The Cincinnati Bengals insist they won’t give in and trade disgruntled quarterback Carson Palmer. Owner Mike Brown’s history supports this claim (Brown has refused to trade Chad Ochocinco and he held onto malcontent running back Corey Dillon for several years).

But read between the lines and you might see a different outlook.

First off, thebelief around the league is that Palmer’s threat to retire if untraded is not an empty one. The Southern California native has two young kids, tens of millions in the bank and a wife who doesn’t like the Cincinnati area. The Bengals know this.

More directly, look at the recent behavior of Cincy’s coaching staff. We wrote in a post about Cedric Benson’s likely return that new offensive coordinator Jay Gruden casually referred to Benson as someone who could carry the ball “20 to 25 times a game if we need to if we have the young quarterback.” When Gruden mentions a “young quarterback”, he’s not referring to the 31-year-old Palmer.

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On Tuesday, Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis attended Auburn’s pro day workout. The Bengals currently hold the fourth overall pick in the draft. Auburn only has two early round draft prospects this year: defensive Nick Fairley and, of course, quarterback Cam Newton.

It’s possible Lewis was there to see Fairley (though the Bengals don’t figure to be in the market for a defensive tackle). It’s also possible that Lewis just happened to be in the area (other southern schools have pro days this week). It’s possible he was there for smoke screening purposes (never hurts to have teams drafting below you think that you might surprise them with your selection).

Or it’s possible that the Bengals are listening to all those who continue to whisper about Palmer actually making good on his threat to retire.

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Posted on: March 9, 2011 11:27 am
 

Cedric Benson open to a return to Cincy

Posted by Andy Benoit

When the Bengals’ 2010 season mercifully came to an end, many assumed that Cedric Benson would not want to return to Cincinnati. A year after rushing for over 1,200 yards, the veteran running back dissolved into somewhat of an afterthought.

Benson’s rushing attempts dropped from 23 per game in ’09 to 20 in ’10. His yards per carry plummetC. Benson (US Presswire)ed from 4.2 to 3.5.

The problem was not Benson so much as the system he was in. After the Bengals signed Terrell Owens, offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski felt compelled to operate a pass-first scheme based on predictable five-and seven-step drops. There was never a rhythm to Cincy’s once-powerful ground attack.

Bratkowski, who had been with the team even longer than head coach Marvin Lewis, was fired in February. That move may ultimately convince Benson, a free agent, to stick around.

Helping matters for Benson is the departure of Terrell Owens and possible departure of Chad Ochocinco, which will trim some passing pages from the playbook. Oh, also trimming passing pages could be the issue of replacing Carson Palmer.

Shortly after the Bratkowski firing, the Bengals hired Jay Gruden to run the offense. Gruden presumably has a predilection for the short-passing West Coast system (Gruden has never worked in the NFL, but that brother of his had some success running a West Coast oriented system in Oakland and Tampa Bay).

Despite Gruden’s passing background, Benson, however, seems eager to play for the new coach.

“We had an interesting conversation about a lot of things,” he told Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer. “We have a lot of things in common as far as the way we see the game.”

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Gruden said of Benson, “I would love to have him back. He’s the type of guy who wants to do well and that’s what we need. A physical back we can hand the ball to 20 to 25 times a game if we need to if we have the young quarterback.”

That last tidbit – ”if we have the young quarterback” – is interesting. The Bengals are insisting they won’t give in to Palmer’s trade demands. (Palmer is threatening retirement if they don’t.) But it sounds like their new play-caller is at least exploring the possibility of a Palmer-less offense in his head.

Palmer or no Palmer, featuring Benson would be the smart move. For one, the guy is a clever, patient runner with a good burst and underrated lateral agility. He also has the durability to get stronger late in games. For two, the Bengals do not have an athletic offensive line, which is something that can be masked by run-blocking but is exposed in pass protection.

If the Bengals do bring Benson back, it will likely have to be in a multi-year contract.

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Posted on: March 4, 2011 8:24 pm
 

Bengals staying firm in stance with Palmer

Posted by Andy BenoitC. Palmer

Out in DC, a tip of the cap can go out to the NFL and NFLPA for making enough progress to delay a possible lockout by one week. Over a Cincinnati…caps are still not being tipped. The quarterback doesn’t want to play for the team, and, according to Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer, the team still doesn’t want the quarterback to play for any other team.

There were rumors that the Bengals might be open to granting Palmer’s trade request after all. But Reedy writes, “When asked if Palmer was indeed on the market, a team official said that the organization’s stance toward the ninth-year quarterback has not changed — he will be playing here or retire.”

The Bengals, of course, can’t do anything with Palmer until a new CBA is reached anyway.


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Posted on: March 1, 2011 6:23 pm
 

Palmer really, really wants out of Cincinnati

C. Palmer wants out of Cincinnati quite badly, it appears (Getty). Posted by Josh Katzowitz

It sounds like Bengals QB Carson Palmer is adamant about not returning to Cincinnati to play football. As in really, really adamant.

According to my buddy, Dennis Janson of WCPO, Palmer told a confidant that “I will never set foot in Paul Brown Stadium again. … I have $80 million in the bank. I don't have to play football for money. I'll play it for the love of the game but that would have to be elsewhere. I'm prepared to live my life."

So, that sounds like he’s serious, and he makes a good point. He has tons and tons of money – in 2005, he signed a six-year extension worth about $118 million – and after starting at QB for the Bengals for seven seasons, he’s probably determined that he just doesn’t need the aggravation anymore.

That’s not to say he wants to retire if he can play for another team. For a squad like the Cardinals – who brought us the trio of Derek Anderson, John Skelton and Max Hall last season – Palmer could be a useful player.

Normally, owner Mike Brown has a habit of saying, “Screw you,” (but in a nicer way) to players who demand things, like trades, to him. Chad Ochocinco knows what I’m talking about. But apparently, the Bengals think Palmer is serious.

And they’ll most likely want to get some kind of return on their investment, so they might very well listen to trade offers for Palmer.

By the way, I assume if Palmer is playing for another team that has to play a road game in Cincinnati, he will actually show up at Paul Brown Stadium on gameday. But, if he can get that written into a new contract, maybe not.

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