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Posted on: August 27, 2011 2:58 pm
 

It's official: there are no Palmers left in Cincy

J. Palmer, C. PalmerPosted by Josh Katzowitz

In a move that shouldn’t have surprised anybody, the Bengals officially have made themselves 100 percent Palmer-free. That’s because the team announced today that it’s waived backup quarterback Jordan Palmer -- who you might know better as Carson’s brother.

Jordan Palmer, who had been the No. 3 quarterback in Cincinnati since signing with the team in 2008 until last season, became Carson’s backup last year, and in four regular-season appearances during his Bengals career, he completed 10 of 15 passes for 59 yards and three interceptions.

But with the drafting of Andy Dalton in the second round and with the signing of Bruce Gradkowski -- not to mention all the offseason drama between the Bengals and Carson -- it seemed pretty clear Jordan’s days in Cincinnati were coming to a close.

He barely played this preseason, and a couple weeks ago, I asked if the Bengals were screwing with Jordan.

Here was my conclusion:

“The question: would the management take out its frustration with Carson on Jordan? My opinion: I kind of doubt it. If the Bengals release Jordan Palmer -- who had designs on winning the starting job in June -- it would probably be because he simply hasn’t shown the team enough since 2008 to qualify for even a third-string QB position. I'd also like to think the Bengals have a little more class than meanly shoving out Jordan just to get back at Carson.”

Part of the reason I asked the question in the first place was because of the rumor that the Bengals wouldn’t give Jordan reps and then would cut him too late for him to sign with another team. Now that the Bengals have cut him to get down to 80 players on the roster with still a little bit of time left in the preseason, meaning it’s not too late for him to sign with somebody else theoretically, it seems the answer to my original question of the Bengals screwing Jordan is “probably not.”

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Posted on: August 18, 2011 6:49 pm
 

Are the Bengals screwing with Jordan Palmer?

C. Palmer and J. Palmer both might not be playing in Cincinnati this year (US Presswire)Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Carson Palmer is retired for now. The Bengals are looking to start second-round draft pick QB Andy Dalton, and they’ve signed veteran Bruce Gradkowski to help mentor him. But the Bengals, according to WCPO’s Denny Janson are still trying to mess with the Palmer family.

On his Twitter account, Jensen writes, “Carson Palmer tells friend, #Bengals are toying with brother Jordan. Few reps etc. Expects him to be cut but too late to sign elsewhere.”

If that’s true, that wouldn’t be real nice of the organization, especially since Carson Palmer has been such a big part of the team and helped lead the squad to two AFC North titles (suffering a variety of injuries for a team that gave him a ton of money coming out of college).

Actually, that would be a real jerky thing for the club to do, especially if it’s maliciously trying to mess with Jordan’s career. On the flip side, the Bengals did sign Jordan three years ago after he had been released from the Redskins and his career was in jeopardy, even though it’s pretty clear he’ll never be a starting QB in the league (even a free agent named Dhani Jones thinks so!).

The question: would the management take out its frustration with Carson on Jordan? My opinion: I kind of doubt it. If the Bengals release Jordan Palmer -- who had designs on winning the starting job in June -- it would probably be because he simply hasn’t shown the team enough since 2008 to qualify for even a third-string QB position. I'd also like to think the Bengals have a little more class than meanly shoving out Jordan just to get back at Carson.

In other Bengals news, fans didn’t seem all that interested in watching Cincinnati’s training camp this year as it attracted just 1,330 cars to Georgetown, Ky., to watch the Bengals practice. That, writes the Cincinnati Enquirer, is the lowest total since the team began training at Georgetown College, about an hour south of Cincinnati.

Last year, although the team trained in Georgetown for just two weeks, the college parked 7,362 cars.

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Posted on: July 15, 2011 5:55 pm
Edited on: July 15, 2011 7:34 pm
 

Carson Palmer 'laying low,' no word on future

Posted by Ryan Wilson

We're about to have football for the first time in some four months. And once a new collective bargaining agreement is in place, things will move at a blistering pace, starting with free agency.

For quarterback Carson Palmer that means making a decision on his future even though he's still under contract with the Bengals. He threatened to retire earlier this offseason and hasn't shown signs of changing his mind. The problem: Cincy owner Mike Brown, known as much for his willfulness as his frugality, has no plans to trade Palmer. Which means that the two are at an impasse.

Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer spotted Palmer at the Edgewood Tahoe Golf Course driving range in advance of the American Century Championship celebrity event, and asked him about his current situation with the Bengals.

Palmer had no comment and told Reedy he is "laying low" until the lockout is resolved.

Part of us wonders if the four months away from the NFL grind (which is no doubt exacerbated by playing in Cincy where the circus is in town every day) has softened Palmer's stance on retirement. With the NFL season not yet officially underway there's no reason to announce now that he'll return to the Bengals, but he's just 31 years old. It's not like he's hobbled by injuries or old age, and presumably he's as competitive as he was when Cincinnati selected him first overall in the 2003 draft.

It's hard to imagine that any player in their prime would bench themselves for an entire season; plenty of them say it but very few actually go through with it.

For now, Palmer's in Tahoe participating in a celebrity golf tournament. And while we'll have to wait to see what happens in the coming days and weeks, this much is certain: Dhani Jones, under no circumstances, wants to see Carson's brother Jordan Palmer under center for the Bengals. Even though, you know, there's no guarantee Cincy will re-sign Jones who, according to one list (feel free to guess which one), is one of the ten best linebackers in the NFL.

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Posted on: July 1, 2011 12:00 pm
Edited on: July 1, 2011 12:06 pm
 

Dhani Jones: Jordan Palmer 'not the answer' at QB



Posted by Ryan Wilson

It is with some irony that Bengals linebacker Dhani Jones would suggest teammate Jordan Palmer "is not the answer -- absolutely not" at quarterback. After all, it was just last week that Brian Urlacher, another Jones offseason target, pointed out Jones wasn't in the best position to be leveling criticism.

"I think we were drafted in the same class, right? Is he a 2000 guy? I haven't heard anything about him since then,” Urlacher said. “I saw him on a TV show with a bow tie on though. So I know him better for how the way he dresses than what he does on a football field. Guys are going to talk. I've definitely had a lot worse things said publicly from guys, so I can live with it."

 (This also gives us a reason to bust out our Urlacher vs. Jones graphic, which is always good for a couple laughs.)

Jones, appearing on the Rich Eisen Podcast, said he "would question the decision, absolutely," should Palmer win the starting job. Of course, Jones will be a free agent as soon as the lockout ends, so it may not be his problem to worry about (although he says he'd like to re-sign with Cincinnati).

It's been a busy few days for (soon-to-be-former) Bengals players. Chad Ochocinco went NASCAR joyriding, but not before telling a radio station that he might have to "whup [Marvin Lewis'] ass." He also has plans to wrestle alligators.

As for who will be under center when the season begins, second-round pick Andy Dalton has to be the early favorite. Lewis said last month that Dalton could be the Week 1 starter. All we've heard about the Palmers is that Carson sold his house and Jordan referred to him as a "former teammate."

We don't think Jones has anything to worry about. At least in terms of the Bengals' QB depth chart.



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Posted on: June 21, 2011 4:31 pm
Edited on: June 21, 2011 4:43 pm
 

Hot Routes 6.21.11: ATL to outscore everybody?



Posted by Ryan Wilson
  • Wideout Roddy White says the Falcons are "[G]oing to outscore everybody … Green Bay’s got, what, four or five guys out there who can make plays? We’re going to be Green Bay South.”
  • You know the lockout has dragged on for far too long when the NFL Network will air two CFL games a week. If this doesn't motivate NFL owners and players, then we're in deep trouble.
  • For three months, we've only heard about the downside of a lockout. For older players like Cowboys wide receiver Roy Williams, there's an upside, too -- namely, the length of the labor impasse likely means Williams won't get cut.
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Posted on: June 15, 2011 2:05 pm
 

Hot Routes 6.15.11: Pryor in the first round?!?



Posted by Josh Katzowitz

  • If former Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor actually did go in the first round of the NFL supplemental draft, CBSSports.com’s own Rob Rang writes that agent Drew Rosenhaus would really have earned his money.
  • If you like to smoke while watching Bills games in person, you’re going to have to change your habits. The Bills have announced that smoking is banned at Ralph Wilson Stadium. Also, since there is no re-entry policy, you can’t leave to smoke and then return.
  • This was my favorite part of the AP story detailing the Bengals player-led workouts. They even clean up after themselves. Following a full-team practice last week at UC, quarterbacks Jordan Palmer and Andy Dalton filled their arms with water bottles and blocking pads and headed for the storage area. Palmer couldn't recall the last time he's had to put the equipment away. “It's been a while," he said.

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Posted on: June 10, 2011 8:28 pm
Edited on: June 10, 2011 9:02 pm
 

Lewis: Dalton could be Bengals' Week 1 starter



Posted by Ryan Wilson

It's all about perspective. In January, shortly after the Bengals put the finishing touches on another underwhelming season, pretty much everybody -- Marvin Lewis included -- figured the team would have a new head coach in the coming weeks.

Somehow, owner Mike Brown didn't fire Lewis -- and Lewis didn't quit -- which only makes sense in the Groundhog Day/bizarro/funhouse-mirror world of the Cincinnati Bengals. Although Lewis will be back for a ninth season, the team will look decidedly different in 2011.

Quarterback Carson Palmer has threatened to retire if the team doesn't trade him, and wide receiver/soccer hopeful/amateur bull rider Chad Ochocinco has likely caught his last pass in Bengal stripes. Which opens the door for second-round pick Andy Dalton and a bunch of young receivers, including first-rounder AJ Green.

Lewis, appearing on ESPN 101 in St. Louis, spoke on a variety of topics, including whether Dalton could be under center in Week 1.

“Well that’s something we are going to have to see what happens and how it plays out, but there’s no question when we selected Andy Dalton we selected him with that in mind -- that he’d possibly be our opening day starting quarterback,” said Lewis, according to SportsRadioInterviews.com.

Different strokes for different folks, we guess. The Panthers, Titans, Jaguars and Vikings all drafted quarterbacks in the first round (Cam Newton, Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert and Christian Ponder, respectively), but none are expected to start.

Cincy backup Jordan Palmer, who referred to his brother as a "former teammate" earlier in the week, will have a chance to win the gig. But he won't have the luxury of knowing the playbook any better than Dalton; offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski was fired during the offseason and was replaced by Jay Gruden. Everybody's learning a new system.

When asked about Carson's decision to call it a career unless his trade demands are met, Lewis sounded like a man who had long since come to terms with losing the one-time face of the franchise. "Those decisions don’t come overnight," Lewis said. "Those are things that sit in your belly for a long time and they really have a tendency to bother you, so it’s a good decision that he made to move on with the rest of his life and we understand that and accept that. We’ve put things together to move forward, and we’re excited about it. It’s been a great offseason that way, and when we get an opportunity to start working with our players we’ll be fired up and ready to go.”

By most accounts, the organization did a swell job of using the April draft to re-stock the roster. Cincy landed their quarterback of the future in Dalton, the best college wideout in the country in Green, and both will join a young group of pass catchers who showed gobs of potential late last season. Whether it will be enough to improve on a 4-12 record is another matter entirely. But it's not like Lewis hasn't dealt with losing before; in his eight previous seasons, the Bengals finished above .500 just twice. This time, though, the task should be easier if for no other reason than Lewis won't be preoccupied with trying to keep Ochocinco happy.

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Posted on: June 8, 2011 8:00 pm
 

Jordan refers to Carson as 'former teammate'

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Perhaps it was a Freudian slip or wholly intentional. Either way, we chuckled at Jordan Palmer's comments Wednesday about his brother Carson, who had been the Bengals' starting quarterback the last seven years before proclaiming this offseason that things were so dysfunctional in Cincinnati that if he wasn't traded he would retire.

Meeting Wednesday with the local media for the first time this spring, Jordan was asked about Carson.

“The route I’m taking is I’m focused on the Bengals and myself. I’m getting myself prepared to be the guy and if I’m not I want to get this team as prepared as they can be. I’m separating myself from what Carson is doing. He’s my brother but he’s a former teammate going a different route and I’m focusing in what is front of me.”

Hear that, Carson? Former teammate. That shot across the bow came from your own flesh and blood. 

Actually, we're guessing that Jordan and Carson have discussed their NFL futures, and it's no secret among the Palmers or those with just a passing interest in football: Carson is serious when he says he'll retire if the Bengals don't trade him.

(That said, we were convinced that Carson quit midway through the 2010 season and was secretly replaced by Jordan, who was stuffed into a No. 9 jersey and assumed the starting role with predictably disastrous results. It would certainly explain Carson's steep fall-off from legit franchise quarterback to noodle-armed has-been.)
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Other than referring to Carson as a "former teammate," Jordan's comments were about what you would expect from a backup competing for a starting gig. Even in early June, during the middle of a lockout, Jordan is a long shot. The Bengals selected Andy Dalton in the second round of the 2011 draft and they sound like it will be his job to lose once the labor situation is settled. That possibility, however, hasn't changed Jordan's mindset.

“I definitely want to be the guy, I’m preparing to be the guy," Palmer said, according to Joe Reedy of the Cincinnati Enquirer. "I’ve also told him (Dalton) that if he’s the guy it’s not because I’ve helped him out too much. It’s going to be because he’s more ready and better. When Carson came here he had Jon Kitna here to help him be a pro. I’m going to help him be a pro. I’d love to help him get there as fast as he can.”

During a normal offseason, Dalton's youth and inexperience would make Jordan the early favorite. But labor issues, and having to learn an entirely new offense (the club fired offensive coordinator Bob Bratkowski after the season and hired Jay Gruden) means that everybody's behind. Veteran guard Bobbie Williams still feels sorry for the rookie.

“I don’t know. I’ll just say, God help the young man. I mean, he’s placed in a challenging position. But you know what, in this profession you’re always placed in a challenging position, it’s up to you how you (react) to it.”

If recent Bengals history is any guide, Dalton's in for a long season.

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