Tag:Shaun King
Posted on: November 2, 2011 11:39 am

Ex-Bucs QB King: Gruden 'is inherently dishonest'

Posted by Will Brinson

Keyshawn Johnson had some interesting things to say about Jon Gruden, a fellow employee at ESPN and his former coach, when he recently ripped the environment in Tampa Bay.

On Tuesday, former Buccaneers quarterback and current radio host Shaun King said on WQYK-AM 1010 (via JoeBucsFan.com) expounded on some of that talk, ripping Gruden pretty thoroughly.

"Jon has a major character flaw in that if he's not the center of attention, it's a problem," King said. "It is what it is. Ala the 'Chucky face.' You look at the NFL Films, it's just ironic, anytime that he's mic'd up or filmed, the 'Chucky face,' you know, it's showcased a lot more than normal."

King went on to say that Gruden "wasn't a guy that a lot of his players were endeared to" and that the coach-turned-broadcaster "is inherently dishonest."

That's a lot of mud that just got slung Gruden's way, but if anyone has actual knowledge of Gruden's behavior with the Buccaneers, it's King, who led the team to an NFC Championship Game.

That being said, you could pretty easily argue that all of mankind is "inherently dishonest" and that none of the traits that King described will keep Gruden, who recently signed a five-year extension with Monday Night Football, from being a popular name rumored as a candidate for open coaching positions around the NFL.

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Posted on: April 19, 2011 1:06 pm
Edited on: April 19, 2011 4:10 pm

Ex-Bucs QB King takes shot at Gruden's eval skill

Posted by Will Brinson

Jon Gruden is known as an "NFL Draft quarterback expert" of sorts. This is partially because he helped the Oakland offense become historically awesome, partially because he won a Super Bowl with Brad Johnson, and mostly because ESPN is marketing him as THIS GUY WHO KNOWS ABOUT YOUNG QUARTERBACKS, whether you like it or not.

One of his former "students," Shaun King apparently takes umbrage to this designation, too, and called Chucky out on The King David Show on WQYK-AM 1010 (via Joe Bucs Fan).

"I won’t watch [Gruden's quarterback camps]," King said. "I disagree with the premise of the show. The premise is that Gruden is some kind of quarterbacks guru and that having him as a destination for a rookie QB is the ideal situation for a rookie and that just hasn’t proven to the case."

Fortunately, just a short time after King ripped Gruden's development of young signal callers, Gruden was on a conference call with the media relating to his draft evaluation. And Gregg Rosenthal of Pro Football Talk was kind enough to ask about King's comments.

"I did fail miserably in developing Shaun King and I’m sorry he'll miss our show," Gruden responded.

Now that's just a funny burn, so props to Gruden for a) taking the question in stride and b) having a hysterical response ready.

Speaking of QB evaluations, our Chad Reuter talks Draft Risers/Fallers

Unfortunately, King's technically accurate -- the list of young quarterbacks that worked under Gruden isn't exactly a list of who's who in terms of successful guys in the NFL.

While with the Bucs, Gruden drafted Chris Simms (third round), Bruce Gradkowski (sixth round), and Josh Johnson (fifth round) and traded for fourth-rounder Luke McCown. While with the Raiders, Gruden picked up Marques Tuiasosopo (second round).

None of those guys have turned out to be anything remotely above average in the NFL (though Gradkowski, somewhat ironically, started for the Raiders).

Having pointed that out, Gruden's never tried his hand with a first-round talent, and he's obviously had plenty of success with veteran quarterbacks in the NFL. He did win a Super Bowl, after all; and one in which he beat the team he basically constructed, no less.

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