Tag:Steve Young
Posted on: July 6, 2011 10:30 pm
Edited on: July 6, 2011 10:41 pm

Lewis on Brady: 'one of the greatest of all time'

Posted by Ryan Wilson

We joked earlier that if you're weary of the Tom Brady vs. Peyton Manning arguments, you could refocus your energies into deciding if Eagles offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg knows what he's talking about when he says that Michael Vick could be better than Steve Young.

Well, it seems there's no escaping Brady-Manning. NFL Network finally unveiled the No. 1 player in their countdown of the top 100, and Brady was the big winner. (In related news, Dhani Jones has asked for a recount.) Manning, of course, was No. 2.

Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis, who ended up fourth on the list, on why Brady was deserving of the honor:

“He’s not the biggest. He was never the strongest. He was never the fastest. He was overlooked. He went in the sixth round. So with that being said, all of the intangibles that a quarterback is supposed to have, they overlooked with him because it was burning from the inside of him. ...

“It’s a chess match because he understands every coverage, he understands every defense. And if you give it away too early, then the game is like checkers then for him. He plays it how he wants to play it. … And that’s what makes it frustrating playing against him; he always finds those mismatches. … You don’t find too many people playing (who are) willing to sacrifice that much time to do that. That’s why Tom Brady will always be considered one of the greatest of all time.”

Football Outsiders agrees with Lewis. Looking at the last five years of FO's quarterback efficiency ratings, Brady ranked fifth in 2006, and first in 2007, 2009 and 2010 (Brady missed all but 15 minutes of the 2008 season with a knee injury). Manning ranked first in '06 and second every season from '07-'10 (which includes '08, when Drew Brees was first).

So it's finally settled … except that Lewis' teammate Derrick Mason thinks that a) Peyton is "hands down" the NFL's best player and that b) Joe Flacco is the Ravens' "Michael Jordan."

We're still waiting to hear what Terrell Suggs thinks about all this.

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Posted on: July 6, 2011 6:08 pm
Edited on: July 6, 2011 8:23 pm

Mornhinweg: Vick can be better than Young

Posted by Ryan Wilson

If you've grown tired of the Brady-Manning debates, here's one you probably never (ever ever) considered: Steve Young vs. Michael Vick. Sounds preposterous, right?

Well, Vick's offensive coordinator in Philadelphia, Marty Mornhinweg, made the comparison recently, and the man knows a few things about NFL quarterbacks. He coached Brett Favre in 1996 (Super Bowl), Young in 1997 and 1998 (last Pro Bowl seasons), Jeff Garcia in 2000 (Pro Bowl), Donovan McNabb from 2004-2009 (he had his five best passing seasons), and Vick last season (Pro Bowl).

Which brings us back to Young and Vick.

"Here was a man (in Vick) who hasn't played for a couple of years," Mornhinweg said. "However, if he did it the right way, I thought he could be a Steve Young-type player … Mike's got a long way to go, but, you know what? I think he can be better than Steve."

We know what you're thinking. "This is the same guy who won the overtime coin toss and elected to kickoff instead of receive, right?" Yes. But we're blaming Lions president Matt Millen. His mismanagement style was infectious; at just about every other stop Mornhinweg has been successful. And it's for that reason that we shouldn't summarily dismiss him when he talks about Vick in the same breath as Young, a Hall of Famer.

PFT.com's Michael David Smith makes a good point. "Asking Vick to be a better quarterback than Young is a tall order. …However, there are a lot of similarities between Vick and Young. They’re both mobile left-handed quarterbacks playing in similar offensive systems. And Young didn’t become the 49ers’ quarterback until he was 30 years old — the same age Vick was last year."

The Philadelphia News' Marcus Hayes writes that Vick had a passer rating of 100.2 last season under Mornhinweg. That was good for fourth in the league. As an NFL starter with the Falcons, Vick never had a passer rating above 81.6.

Whether the rest of Vick's career will mirror Young's is a story that has yet to be written, but there's no disputing that 2010 was Vick's best NFL season. Pretty sure nobody saw that coming, either.

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