Tag:Marty Schottenheimer
Posted on: June 21, 2011 12:39 pm
Edited on: June 21, 2011 1:13 pm
 

If Bulger wants to start, Miami could be option

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Dolphins coach Tony Sparano would only offer a "we'll see" when asked recently if Chad Henne would be his starter in 2011. The team has been upfront about its pursuit of a veteran quarterback once free agency begins; the only question is who Miami might target.

Regarding realistic free-agent options at QB and RB, Omar Kelly of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel tweeted Monday that it's "[h]ard to say until I know the RFA rules. But at worse: [Marc] Bulger & [Darren] Sproles."

We've mentioned the uncertainty surrounding the restricted free-agent rules. However that plays out, Bugler will draw the interest of several QB-needy teams. NFL Network's Jason La Canfora said in May that the Dolphins could be in the mix for Bulger's services. But even then, Rotoworld.com speculated that "Bulger doesn't want to be a starter in the NFL, and that he'd be more comfortable not taking anymore hits."

This jibes with what Kurt Warner, who was Bulger's teammate in St. Louis, said last week (via PFT):
Warner pointed out that Bulger “got beat up pretty good” as the starter in St. Louis, and that it wouldn’t surprise Warner to learn that Bulger is “happy” as a backup, and that “he can just enjoy life and not have to worry about the pressure of being an NFL starter and everything that goes with it.” Again, Warner was careful not to phrase his assessment as criticism, and Warner said he thinks that Bulger would want to start again if he finds the right situation.
Whether Miami would be the "right situation" remains to be seen, although Henne is presumably on a short leash after two inconsistent seasons.

In related news, the Dolphins' 2009 second-round pick Pat White has signed to play for Marty Schottenheimer and the UFL's Virginia Destroyers. (Yep, that's the same Marty Schottenheimer who basically said "thanks but no thanks" when asked about Terrelle Pryor.)

White, who briefly played professional baseball, calls his new opportunity a "chance to show I can do it." Unfortunately, that never happened in Miami.

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Posted on: June 19, 2011 8:00 pm
Edited on: June 19, 2011 8:17 pm
 

More bad news for Terrelle Pryor's draft stock

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Terrelle Pryor's transition from Ohio State to the NFL isn't going nearly as well as his transition from high school to college. The top-ranked prep quarterback three years ago, Pryor, who left Ohio State earlier this month, is considered by most people to be no better than a middling NFL prospect.

And we have another name to add to the list: National, the largest scouting service for NFL teams, gave Pryor a grade of 5.1, which translates into a sixth- or seventh-round selection.

We say "most people" because Pryor's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, proclaimed in a press conference last week that his client is "a first-round pick." Those who make their livings evaluating players instead of representing them disagree; NFL Films' Greg Cosell gave Pryor a "late-round" grade, NFL Network's Mike Mayock was slightly more generous, suggesting Pryor might be a fourth-rounder. Former NFL head coaches Marty Schottenheimer and Jerry Glanville said, in their own special way, thanks but no thanks. (Apparently, they didn't read Chad Ochocinco's multiple scouting reports.)

NationalFootballPost.com's Aaron Wilson provides some background on the scouting service:
National annually grades over 1,400 draft eligible college seniors, providing information to nearly two dozen NFL clubs for a fee of over $100,000 to compile the data. Several teams also subscribe to BLESTO. And other teams like the Baltimore Ravens aren't associated with either well-respected scouting service.

A 9.0 is the highest possible grade for a blue-chip prospect with grades ranging as low as 1.0 for a player who isn't projected to play professional football. A 7.0 grade usually connotes a first-round draft target with 6.0 or higher denoting a player who could go in the top 75 overall selections.
Hey, at least Pryor didn't get a 1.0. Nonetheless, this can't make Rosenhaus happy, although as Mayock pointed out previously, "Nobody is better than Rosenhaus in driving perceived value. … Sometimes perceived value is almost as good as real value if he can get enough people talking about [Pryor] as a first-round pick."

To do that, however, Rosenhaus needs to quiet all the experts coming out of the woodwork to remind us that Pryor is probably, at best a fourth-rounder, and at worst not worth the trouble. 



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Posted on: June 15, 2011 12:03 am
 

Another UFL coach scoffs at Terrelle Pryor

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

There are quite a few opinions about where former Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor will land in the first stop of his professional career.*

*I suppose you could make the argument that Pryor just left the first stop of his pro career.

Drew Rosenhaus – who just happens to be Pryor’s agent – seems to think Pryor could be a first-round pick in the NFL supplemental draft. Others like Greg Cosell, the respected analyst at NFL Films, thinks Pryor shouldn’t get his hopes up quite so much.

And then you have former NFL head coach Marty Schottenheimer – now the head coach with the UFL’s Virginia Destroyers – who wouldn’t want Pryor at all.

Which leads us to Jerry Glanville, coach of the UFL’s Hartford Colonials, who declared to the Hartford Courant (via Pro Football Talk) that he would have some reservations about taking a player like Pryor.

“If a player’s ability helps the product on the field, I’m all for it,” Glanville said. “But you’re taking a guy – anybody and I’m not saying any guy in particular – and his reputation actually hinders the product on the field, then I don’t care about his reputation or his name. Because to me, this league is all about the product. That’s what we’re selling.

“Our league is an unselfish league. You can’t be a selfish person to play in the UFL. In the NFL, there are selfish people. From what he did and from what happened to him in college . . . I don’t know him and you never know until you meet a guy, he might be the greatest kid you’ve ever met. But if he’s selfish, there’s no room for him in this league.”

OK, so it’s established. While Pryor couldn’t even get a sniff in the UFL, he’s going to be a first-round pick in the NFL supplemental.

Boy, it sounds like Rosenhaus has some major selling to do.

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Posted on: June 9, 2011 11:55 pm
Edited on: June 10, 2011 11:03 am
 

Marty Schottenheimer wouldn't want Pryor

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

If former Ohio State QB Terrelle Pryor enters the NFL supplemental draft – and why wouldn’t he if there actually is a supplemental draft? – don’t expect teams to make big concessions to get him.

That’s basically what CBSSports.com’s Ryan Wilson wrote today, and I talked to one person today who spends much of his time watching film who believes Pryor is nothing better than a third-string QB in the NFL.

Heck, it’s gotten so bad for Pryor that even one UFL coach said he wouldn’t be interested in working with him. That's longtime NFL coach Marty Schottenheimer, who’s coaching the Virginia Destroyers.

“With all due respect, we’ve got a quarterback, and we’re ready to move forward with him,” Schottenheimer said on 1490 The Game (via Pro Football Talk) in Virginia Beach.

So, just who is this mysterious QB that Schottenhemier would rather play instead of the former Buckeyes star? I don’t have a Destroyers depth chart handy, but I can tell you there are three quarterbacks listed on the team’s roster: Dennis Brown (from Norfolk State), Derek Devine (from Marshall) and Pat White (I thought he was retired from pro sports).

Whoever it is, I can assure you of one thing: not one of them will have been the most-coveted high school quarterback in the country at one point. Unlike a guy named Terrelle Pryor who nobody seems to want these days.

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Posted on: March 26, 2011 10:20 am
 

Drayton Florence's offer to Schotty

Posted by Andy BenoitD. Florence

Hopefully the day will soon come when the lockout is over soon and we won’t have to keep doing these “what this player and that player say they’re going to do during the lockout” posts.

Alas, that day is not today. So we pass along Drayton Florence’s recent tweet. The Bills cornerback offered to coach the defensive backs for the Virginia Destroyers during the lockout. The Destroyers recently hired Florence’s old Chargers coach, Marty Schottenheimer, to run their show.

It’s hard to say just how serious Florence’s offer really is. Seems like if he really wanted to offer up his services, he’d call Schottenheimer rather than tweet to him for all to see and force the coach to contact him, no?

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Posted on: March 23, 2011 1:41 pm
 

Marty Schottenheimer takes over UFL squad

Marty Schottenheimer announced he's taking over the UFL's Virginia Destroyers job (US Presswire). Posted by Josh Katzowitz

While most of those who play in the UFL toil in relative obscurity, the league’s owners have done a pretty impressive job of hiring coaches who have big names and give some much-needed credibility to the league.

Among the biggest names are former Giants coach Jim Fassell (Las Vegas Locomotives), former Cardinals coach Dennis Green (California Redwoods), and former Falcons coach Jerry Glanville (just hired by the Hartford Colonials).

But perhaps the biggest get for the league came today when Marty Schottenheimer announced (via Twitter, naturally) that he is the new head coach and GM of the Virginia Destroyers.

This move was expected, but today’s confirmation is sure to build excitement about the relocated UFL franchise (it formerly was known as the Florida Tuskers), especially considering Schottenheimer comes in with some serious credentials as an NFL coach (a 200-126 career record, which makes him, unfortunately for him, the winningest head coach never to take a Super Bowl title).

A quick story about Schottenheimer that I (speaking of timely!) heard just this week.

One Sunday, when Schottenheimer coached in Kansas City, his squad had just beaten its opponent 10-7, when Chiefs president Carl Peterson and his guest, pass offense guru and legend Sid Gillman, visited him in the postgame locker room.

Gillman, by that time long retired, continued to watch current game film to keep up to date on the latest happenings in pro football. Knowing that Gillman regularly watched film of his team, Schottenheimer asked Gillman what he thought about the Chiefs offense.

Gillman’s response: “Marty, you have no offense.”

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Posted on: March 21, 2011 10:54 am
 

Marty Schottenheimer getting back in the game

Posted by Andy Benoit

It’s long been assumed that Marty Schottenheimer would like to get back into coaching. The power-run oriented coach has been out of the game since his adversary, Chargers GM A.J. Smith, fired him after a 14-2 ’06 season was wiped away by a one-and-done playoff loss.

If ESPN’s Chris Mortensen is correct, Schottenheimer is returning to professional football…sort of. Mortensen reports that Schottenheimer is in line to become the next head coach and general manager of the UFL’s Virginia Destroyers.

The 2011 season will be the Destroyers’ first.

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