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Posted on: August 26, 2011 3:14 pm
 

Wayne unimpressed by Favre-to-Colts speculation



Posted by Ryan Wilson

It's come to this. Year after year, Brett Favre would announced his retirement only to return for one more season. Now that he appears legitimately done with football, his name surfaces every few weeks as a possible option for Team X in need of immediate help at the gunslingin' position. That's right, folks, Brett Favre, even if he wants to, isn't going away.

The latest, by way of a quick recap of recent events in Indianapolis.

Earlier this week, the Colts "Favre-ed" Kerry Collins out of retirement because Peyton Manning may not be fully recovered from offseason neck surgery to play in Week 1. A day later, Colts wideout Reggie Wayne, the man who has been on the receiving end of Curtis Painter short-hops and overthrows through two preseason games inexplicably said that, "Just because we bring [Collins] in doesn't mean he's the starter. He's got to learn too, right? Unless they gave him a playbook months ago, he's got to learn too."

Wayne wasn't finished: "I don't care who you are, I mean I'm not going to let anyone just come in here and just push someone (like Painter) aside like you're that dog now, you know what I mean?"

To quote our CBSSports.com colleague, Josh Katzowitz, No, we have no idea what Wayne means. 

Until now, that is. 

The Indianapolis Star's Phillip B. Wilson warns that we shouldn't put too much stock in Wayne's defense of Painter, he's just being a good teammate. (Related: we made that point on the latest Pick-6 podcast; remember, Wayne, despite wanting a new deal, showed up to training camp because, in his words, "I'm a Colt. What else I'm gonna be? I'm going to go to work. That's what I do.") 


The Indianapolis Colts have signed veteran Kerry Collins as an insurance policy to Peyton Manning. Colts RapidReporter Tom James joins Scott Braun to discuss the move.

As for Favre, Wilson writes that someone mentioned to Wayne the "far-fetched possibility" that the Colts would consider bringing him in.

“Brett Favre … I feel the same way about Kerry Collins walking in this door, that’s going to push Peyton even more to want to play, you know what I’m saying? That’s just what it is,” Wayne said. “I got nothing against T.O. (Terrell Owens) or whatever receiver is out there, you bring them in here, I guarantee my game is going up some more.”

Thank god.

To recap: Wayne doesn't have a problem with Collins, he's just being a good teammate by supporting Painter. More importantly: he's not impressed by the Favre speculation unless it'll motivate Manning into regenerating those nerves in his neck faster.

And no matter what Wayne says, the starting gig is Collins' until Manning returns. At least that's the word from team president Bill Polian. Now the only question is how long until Manning returns.
Posted on: August 25, 2011 10:02 am
Edited on: August 25, 2011 12:46 pm
 

Reggie Wayne isn't sure Collins should be starter

CollinsPosted by Josh Katzowitz

One of the more interesting stories from Wednesday was the Colts signing Kerry Collins to a $4 million contract just in case Peyton Manning isn’t ready to begin the season as the team’s starting quarterback.

Even though CBSSports.com’s Mike Freeman has gone on record as saying that the Colts could make the playoffs even with Collins in charge of the offense, at least one of Collins’ new teammates disagrees.

That’s receiver Reggie Wayne, who said, via the AP, that “We don't even know him, we ain't vanilla, man, we ain't no simple offense. So for him to can come in here and be the starter, I don't see it. I think that's a step back."

Wait, wait a minute. Is Wayne saying he would rather have Curtis Painter or Dan Orlovsky start instead of Collins -- who certainly is past his prime but is far more accomplished than Painter and Orlovsky combined*?

*If you multiplied by 10 the combined careers of Painter and Orlovsky, Collins still would be far more accomplished.

"Who says Kerry's going to be the starter?" Wayne said. "Just because we bring him in doesn't mean he's the starter. He's got to learn too, right? Unless they gave him a playbook months ago, he's got to learn too.

Peyton's Place ... on the sidelines?
"I don't care who you are, I mean I'm not going to let anyone just come in here and just push someone (like Painter) aside like you're that dog now, you know what I mean?"

No, I have no idea what Wayne means.

As CBSSports.com’s Ryan Wilson pointed out Wednesday, “Anyone who has watched a Manning-less Colts offense led by the likes of Curtis Painter or Dan Orlovsky knows that it might be a four-win outfit. Collins may be a fossil in NFL years, but he's also the same guy who manned the controls when the Titans won 13 games in 2008.”

Which is why Wayne seemingly makes no sense when he says he’d rather see Painter start than Collins. After all, Collins has thrown for more than 40,000 yards and 200 touchdowns in his career, while Painter has accumulated 83 yards, no touchdowns and two interceptions.

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Posted on: August 24, 2011 11:06 am
Edited on: August 25, 2011 9:49 am
 

Colts sign Collins in case Manning isn't ready


The Indianapolis Colts have signed veteran Kerry Collins as an insurance policy to Peyton Manning. Colts RapidReporter Tom James joins Scott Braun to discuss the move.

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Colts owner Jim Irsay has been a busy little Twitterer recently. Last Saturday he informed fans that "We r evaluating the QB sitch, #18 healing but we got 2 b prepared 4 early season possibility without him, defense has 2 pick it up,big time!" A few days later he joked that he was on a quest to find Brett Favre, and Wednesday morning he announced that Kerry Collins, in Favre-ian fashion, would be coming out of retirement to sign with the Colts.

While the Collins signing is news, the implications are bigger: there is real concern that Peyton Manning, still recovering from offseason neck surgery, won't be ready to start the regular season.

Anyone who has watched a Manning-less Colts offense led by the likes of Curtis Painter or Dan Orlovsky knows that it might be a four-win outfit. Collins may be a fossil in NFL years, but he's also the same guy who manned the controls when the Titans won 13 games in 2008. In fact, CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman thinks Indy can make the playoffs with Collins should it come to that.

"The signing of Collins is just in case something goes horribly wrong [with Manning's recovery]," Freeman wrote Wednesday morning. "He's got a strong arm, a solid head and Colts players will like him. He's in many ways the best-case scenario for the Colts. … Bringing Collins to Indianapolis is actually a brilliant move. Now we just wait and see when Manning returns."

Peyton's Place ... on the sidelines?

Minutes after Irsay announced Collins had been signed, he tweeted that coach Jim Caldwell and team president Bill Polian "will expand more on our thinking and how we will integrate the quarterback position in the coming weeks."

Collins isn't nearly the player Manning is, and unlike his situation in Tennessee in recent years, there's absolutely no chance Collins somehow wins the starting job. But what he provides the Colts is a legitimate chance to win games if Manning isn't healthy to start the season, which is something we couldn't say about Painter or Orlovsky.

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Posted on: August 22, 2011 11:59 am
Edited on: August 22, 2011 12:26 pm
 

Irsay isn't on a quest to find Favre, is he?

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

We’re big fans of Colts owner Jim Irsay’s Twitter updates* because he’s either tweeting the lyrics to deep track Pink Floyd songs, occasionally breaking news, or reassuring his team’s fans about Peyton Manning’s neck.

*Of course, we are. We named him No. 4 among our favorite NFL tweeters last year.

He’s a bit of jokester on Twitter, which is why we’re assuming (hoping?) that he was kidding when he tweeted this on Sunday, “I'm in Mississippi,down at the crossroads....looking 4 that deal Mr. Johnson cut so many years ago....I'm in Hattiesburg...is it right or left at the Firechief?”

J. Irsay screenshot 1

J. Irsay screenshot 2

OK, some clarification. Hattiesburg, Miss., is the home of an old-time gun-slinging QB you might have heard about named Brett Favre, who insists that he’s retired. Considering we don’t know when Peyton Manning -- who had offseason neck surgery and hasn’t practiced yet this preseason -- will return to action and considering it’d be hard to stomach either Curtis Painter or Dan Orlovsky starting the Colts season opener, Irsay and the Colts might be in a tight spot if Manning can’t play.

Hopefully, though, Irsay is only pretending to seek out Favre to take over for Manning.

Moving the joke along a little further is Irsay’s reference to “Mr. Johnson” cutting a deal. If you’re in need of a rock history lesson, Irsay is referring to Robert Johnson, the old blues guitarist who supposedly sold the devil his soul at a Mississippi crossroad so he could be a master guitar player. So, in effect, Irsay is saying he’s selling his soul to the devil in order to obtain Favre’s services.

I didn't think about it at the time, but one of my editors pointed out that the "Brad" in Irsay's second tweet might be refering to Brad Childress, a former Colts assistant coach who, as you know, was Favre's final head coach in Minnesota.

Good stuff. But for now, we’ll just assume he’s kidding and move on with the rest of our day. Unless Favre, like the devil, is going to put us through eternal hell and keep returning to play.

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Posted on: August 20, 2011 12:28 pm
Edited on: August 20, 2011 5:03 pm
 

What happens if Peyton Manning can't play?

P. Manning still isn't ready to return from his neck surgery (AP).Posted by Josh Katzowitz

If there isn’t panic these days in Indianapolis about the future of the Colts quarterback position, perhaps there should be. Peyton Manning, coming off neck surgery, hasn’t practiced yet, and though it’s too early to gnash your teeth about Manning’s newly-signed five-year, $90 million contract, Colts fans have to be worried about his long-term health.

Not to mention the long-term prospects of the rest of the Colts quarterbacks.

Curtis Painter, Manning’s long-time backup, still hasn’t proved he can be a starting QB in this league, and one of the few passes I saw Dan Orlovsky throw during Indianapolis’ putrid loss to the Redskins on Friday was a terribly underthrown ball that was intercepted by Washington.

And if you’re not concerned about it, Indianapolis Star's Bob Kravitz explains why you should be.

Writes Kravitz: “There are three weeks remaining before the regular season begins, and unless Manning is back within a week, it's fair to worry whether he'll be ready to roll when it counts. (If you're asking when Manning will return, here's the answer: I. Don't. Know. And I'm not sure Manning and the doctors know just yet, either.)"

This hasn’t ever really been an issue for Manning and the Colts. He’s been remarkably durable throughout his career, and the Colts have ridden his talent to nine-straight 10-win seasons and nine-straight playoff appearances. But does anyone think that, if Manning can’t play right away, Painter or Orlovsky can step in and play half as well? That the Colts could still compete for the AFC South title? Of course not.

Which leads Kravitz to question the Colts plan when it comes to backup quarterbacks. He talked to GM Chris Polian about it.

Peyton's Place ... on the sidelines?
"You get into the philosophy of, 'Do you want an experienced guy who may not be able to stay healthy if he had to play more than a couple of games, or a young guy with talent who's got a chance to ascend?'” Polian asked. “Part of what makes the backup quarterback position unique is more than physical qualities: What's the guy's contribution going to be in the meeting room? What's his role going to be in practice? Is he OK with what his role is going to be?

"Traditionally, because of the way Peyton wants to prepare, the backup doesn't get much work outside of training camp. And that's fine; I'm not going to complain about the results. But when we've inquired about vets in the past, there have been some financial limitations. This is not the best, most appealing spot for a guy who says, 'If somebody gets hurt and I can play four games, I can play somewhere else next year.' This is more of a destination spot, so that's led us a little more to the younger guys."

Or as owner Jim Irsay, who says Terrelle Pryor isn’t an option, tweeted Saturday, “We r evaluating the QB sitch,#18 healing but we got 2 b prepared 4 early season possibility without him,defense has 2 pick it up,big time!”

If Manning can’t get healthy quickly, the Colts plan might need to change. And fast.

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Posted on: August 9, 2011 2:32 pm
Edited on: August 9, 2011 5:01 pm
 

Hot Routes 8.9.11: Grossman takes the lead

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Posted by Josh Katzowitz
  • What kinds of consequences will Titans DB Cortland Finnegan have to face after missing practice last weekend because he was unhappy about his contract (and then lying to his fans about it)? Sounds like the team management will forgive, but might not forget.
  • Anthony Gonzalez isn’t exactly sure how many NFL players are taking HGH, but he’s pretty sure that those players are out there, lurking in the shadows. Said the Colts WR to the Indianapolis Star: "How many guys are on it, that's hard to say," Gonzalez said. "It could be 10, it could be a hundred or more; either way, it's too much. But around the league, you see guys on Sunday, and things don't add up; they don't look right. I see guys I saw in college, now they're in the NFL and they look totally different."
  • The relationship between newly-minted HOFer Richard Dent and his former coach, Mike Ditka? Yeah, not too good. Ditka didn’t show for last weekend’s induction ceremonies, and Dent didn’t mention Ditka in his speech.
  • Browns DE Marcus Benard bulked up about 25 pounds during the offseason because he thought that would make him more effective. Funny thing about that. The coaches disagree and want him to lose the weight.
  • As a brief aside, we hit the 10,000th follower on our Twitter feed today. Many, many thanks to those who made it possible.
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Posted on: July 4, 2011 9:47 pm
Edited on: July 4, 2011 9:52 pm
 

Colts might have plenty of free agents to sign

ManningPosted by Josh Katzowitz

The biggest worry for the Colts franchise when the lockout ends is the contract of QB Peyton Manning and whether the two sides will agree to a long-term extension. For now, Manning has been franchise-tagged for 2011, though his agent would like to get rid of that designation by dropping it in the next Collective Bargaining Agreement.

But aside from Manning, Indianapolis has plenty of work to get done in order to secure the services of some of its most important free agents, especially if the new CBA allows unrestricted free agency after four years of service.

That means RB Joseph Addai, LB Clint Session, OT Charlie Johnson and S Melvin Bullitt would be eligible to leave.

"As far as me coming back or being gone, I don't know,” Johnson told the Indianapolis Star. “I will just take it as it happens. I'm working out, trying to get better and hoping a deal gets done. But I can't concern myself with 'what ifs' at this point."

Indy's offseason
But Bullitt, taking over Bob Sanders’ old position, definitely wants to return to the Colts.

"I'm probably the strongest I've been in two years," Bullitt said. "I want to play in Indy again. That's what I'm planning on. But the reality is I'm not signed with anyone … I want to finish my career in Indianapolis, but I will have to make a decision quickly."

Returning to Indianapolis seems like a no-brainer for many of these free agents, especially if they can get somewhere close to market value for their services. With Manning running that team, the Colts are always going to be in contention for a Super Bowl.

But if, for some reason, the Colts can’t re-sign Manning, they’ll be in a world of trouble. Not just because they’ll be letting go one of the top quarterbacks of all time, but because without him, it’ll be tougher to convince top-flight free agents to return to a team that would have Curtis Painter at the top of the depth chart.

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Posted on: June 12, 2011 6:16 pm
Edited on: June 12, 2011 6:46 pm
 

Hot Routes 6.12.11: Would Tressel like a do-over?



Posted by Josh Katzowitz

  • In 2006, the Browns reached out to former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel to see if he’d possibly be interested in taking over their head coaching position. Even though Jim Brown was the one who made the original exploration, apparently, Tressel never was interested. I wonder if he’d be interested today.
  • Seahawks coach Pete Carroll made his first public comments about the BCS stripping USC of the 2004 national championship. Strangely enough, he didn’t seem all that contrite about it. "Just watch the comments of the players," Carroll said in an interview on 710 ESPN. "They know who won, who didn't. [Matt] Leinart and Lofa Tatupu and those guys, they all know. The whole thing is so unfortunate."
  • Former Chiefs great Christian Okoye penned an opinion piece for the Kansas City Star asking the owners to end the lockout for the fans.

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