Tag:Kyle Orton
Posted on: December 1, 2011 2:11 pm
Edited on: December 1, 2011 6:23 pm
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Vikings to release McNabb, Bears next?

Chicago missed out on Orton. Could McNabb be next? (Getty Images)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Last week, the Broncos released former starting quarterback Kyle Orton to give him a chance to catch on with another team now that the trading deadline had passed. On Thursday, the Vikings reportedly extended the same courtesy to Donovan McNabb, Minnesota's starter to begin the year who was replaced with rookie quarterback Christian Ponder in Week 7.

The Vikings were 1-5 when McNabb headed to the bench; they're 1-4 since with Ponder. There's a decent argument that Minnesota is virtually the same team before and after McNabb. Fair enough, but the biggest difference is that Ponder is gaining experience and has upside. With McNabb what you see is what you get. And, frankly, the last two seasons it's been hard to watch him at all.

According to Leslie Frazier, it was a mutual decision between McNabb and the team.

"He's been a true pro in every sense of the word," Frazier said. "He's a class guy. Always has been, and he's done a good job in spite of the fact he wasn't our starting quarterback.

"When you have a guy who has been this successful in this league, he has an idea how he wants his career to continue or not to continue. That played a role in making that decision," Frazier said.

But, hey, one man's trash…

In the NFL, competence is relative and there are several teams in the playoff hunt who are suddenly in need of a replacement-level quarterback. When Denver cut Orton, Chicago was an obvious landing spot. The Bears had just lost Jay Cutler to a hand injury and backup Caleb Hanie had yet to start an NFL game (that happened over the weekend and it didn't go well).

McNabb probably isn't as good as Orton but at this point in the proceedings, with just five games remaining in the regular season and Chicago's tenuous hold on a playoff spot, there's no time to be picky. The question, at its most basic, comes down to this: does McNabb give the Bears a better chance to win than Hanie?

If Lovie Smith and Mike Martz think so, they'll put in a waiver claim for him. If they don't, they'll pray that Hanie plays better and that Cutler's hand magically heals in the next few weeks.

But even if Chicago wants McNabb, there's no guarantee they land him. They also wanted Orton, but the Chiefs, by virtue of having a worse record, were awarded Orton off waivers. A similar scenario could play out again for McNabb's services.

This is bad news for Chicago but good news for McNabb, who hasn't been wanted since the Eagles traded him a few years ago. We're sure his confidence could use the boost.

Other teams that might be interested: the Texans, who just signed Jake Delhomme (!) to backup T.J. Yates and Kellen Clemens, and possibly the Cowboys, who put in a waiver claim for Orton last week.

UPDATE: The Houston Chronicle reports that the Texans aren't interested. Put differently: they have more faith in Yates, Clemens and Delhomme. 


After an overtime win last week over the Chargers, Tim Tebow and the Denver Broncos will travel to Mall of America Field to battle the Minnesota Vikings on Sunday. NFL.com's Pat Kirwan and Jason Horowitz take a look at this game.

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Posted on: November 28, 2011 11:35 pm
 

Elway 'disappointed' in reaction to Tebow comment

Posted by Will Brinson

Although it feels like a lifetime's worth of Tim Tebow news has happened since, it's actually only been a week since John Elway said the Broncos quarterback of the future currently wasn't on the roster.

Now, a week later and one Denver win richer, Elway is "disappointed" that people misunderstood what he was trying to say on his radio show last Monday. He clarified the remarks this week on the same radio show.

"I was surprised in the fact that people took it to be a negative answer, and it really wasn't a negative answer," Elway said Monday on KDSP-FM in Denver, via NFL.com. "That's where I was taken aback. It wasn't meant to be a strike at Timmy at all.

"It was just a reality check of where we were at the time, and it wasn't a negative because I tried to follow it up with all the positive things we were doing and tried to point out some things we needed to get better at."

Elway, at the time, emphasized that the team wasn't going to win a championship if its quarterback was completing less than 50 percent of his passes, or if they weren't converting third downs.



But because the question he was asked centered around whether or not the quarterback of the future was on the roster, many folks took it a way that Elway apparently didn't intend.

"I was disappointed, and obviously I need to do a better job communicating that message, because the way it was taken was taken more negative than obviously I really meant it to be," Elway said. "So that's just one of those situations, and it's something I'll learn from also."

Look, Elway's in a lose-lose situation when he tries to answer that question. If he says "yes," he's committing to Tebow for the long term even if he's not sure that's what he wants to do. And if he goes back on his decision, he's sure to hear from many angry Tebow supporters down the road.

On the other hand, if he doesn't commit to Tebow as the franchise's future, he's pretty clearly undermining any support for Tebow from the organization. Even if that's not what he's actually doing.

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Posted on: November 26, 2011 3:08 pm
Edited on: November 26, 2011 3:38 pm
 

There's a chance Orton is inactive vs. Steelers

Orton could be the No. 3 QB behind Palko and Stanzi Sunday night. (US PRESSWIRE)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

The Kyle Orton era won't begin in Kansas City this week. In fact, Orton might be the Chiefs' third quarterback when they face the Steelers Sunday night. Claimed on waivers Wednesday after the Broncos took mercy on his soul and released him, Orton gives Kansas City a veteran presence under center to replace starter Matt Cassel, who was placed on injured reserve Monday with a hand injury. It's just that Orton might not get his chance until Week 13 at the earliest.

On Friday, Chiefs head coach Todd Haley said that Orton could be the team's No. 3 quarterback behind starter Tyler Palko and rookie Ricky Stanzi. Other than last Monday night against the Patriots, Kansas City kept the third quarterback inactive on game days.

So what does that mean for Orton this Sunday?

“I wouldn’t rule out anything at this point, other than Tyler starting the game,” Haley said Friday, according to the Kansas City Star's Kent Babb. “We’ll just have to see.”

Haley indicated that Orton's role will be determined by how much of the playbook he's able to learn since arriving Friday.

“We’ve got to get Kyle assimilated into how we’re doing things,” Haley said, “and make decisions as we get closer to the game.”

Best-case scenario, then: Orton makes his appearance next week, with five games left in the regular season. As it stands, the Chiefs are tied for last in the AFC West, two games back of the Raiders.

And even if Kansas City finds a way to get by Pittsburgh (and that's a long shot), their schedule is the league's toughest for the final month of the season: at the Bears, at the Jets, Packers, Raiders, at the Broncos.

So even if Orton plays like it's 2010, where he ranked 12th in Football Outsiders' QB efficiency metrics (3,653 passing yards, 20 TDs, 9 INTs) -- which put him just ahead of Michael Vick, Cassel and Eli Manning -- it won't be enough to get the Chiefs back to the playoffs.


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Posted on: November 23, 2011 9:11 pm
 

Palko, not Orton, will start for KC vs. Steelers

PalkoPosted by Josh Katzowitz

While the Chiefs made a big splash today claiming Kyle Orton off waivers, it’ll be an extra week before he’s officially Kansas City’s starting quarterback. As the Kansas City Star writes, Orton won’t be the one taking the snaps Sunday when the Chiefs meet Pittsburgh.

Instead, it'll be Tyler Palko once again.

Orton will try to get to Chiefs headquarters in time Thursday to take his physical, and assuming he passes, he most likely will practice with his new team. But since he’d be a day behind the NFL typical week of practice (Wednesday marks the first day) and trying to learn a new offense with new verbiage and signals, it’s unlikely he’d be prepared enough to take over the team’s reigns for Sunday.

It’s not unlike how the Raiders treated Carson Palmer after they traded for him, giving Kyle Boller the start in his place. In that case, Boller was terrible, and a desperate Hue Jackson inserted a clearly unprepared Palmer into the lineup in the second half and then rewarded his coach by throwing three horrendous-looking interceptions.

Considering the Raiders were actually playing the Chiefs that day, coach Todd Haley should remember how poorly that decision went for Jackson.

Haley didn’t talk to Palko about any upcoming changes for the Pittsburgh game.

“He didn’t tell me either way," Palko said. “He just said we’re going full speed ahead for Pittsburgh. I was in the huddle today calling plays and we have a really good plan. I’m fired up about it.”

Palko would like to atone for last Monday’s game when he threw three interceptions against the Patriots and took a 34-3 loss that dropped Kansas City to 4-6 and into a tie for last place in the AFC West. But with the addition of Orton, Kansas City obviously is still very serious about catching the 6-4 first-place Raiders to defend last year’s title.

And if Orton is the man who eventually takes over the starting job -- like, say, in Week 13 -- Palko will understand.

“This game is not for the faint of heart,’’ Palko said. “You can’t be sensitive. You can’t worry about things you can’t control. This is a bottom-line business. It’s about wins.’’

Orton has proven he can get them. Palko has not.

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Posted on: November 23, 2011 4:17 pm
Edited on: November 23, 2011 5:22 pm
 

Chiefs claim Kyle Orton off waivers

Orton, Tebow

Posted by Josh Katzowitz

Kyle Orton and the Bears won’t be reunited after all. Rapid Reporter Bob Gretz has confirmed an ESPN report that the Chiefs have claimed him off waivers from the Broncos.

Which makes perfect sense for Kansas City. Considering Matt Cassel is out for the season and Tyler Palko wasn’t great (but not completely terrible) last Monday against the Patriots -- he went 24 for 37 for 230 yards, three interceptions and a 48.3 rating in a 34-3 loss -- the Chiefs obviously feel like Orton gives them a chance to compete for the AFC West title.

Where they’re competing against (surprise!) the Broncos for a potential division championship. The two squads will face each other Jan. 1 in Kansas City in a contest that could have major playoff implications, especially if Tim Tebow continues to lead Denver to wins and Orton can reinvigorate the Chiefs. Entering this week, the Raiders are 6-4 to lead the AFC West, but the Broncos are 5-5 and are followed by the 4-6 Chiefs and Chargers.

The Tebow, Orton eras begin ...
So, basically, the entire division is up for grabs.

For those who wonder if Orton would decline to travel to Kansas City to fulfill his obligations, I think you can safely close the door on those thoughts. Don’t you think he would vastly enjoy ruining the Broncos season for his new team’s own benefit?

Yet, that’s also what makes this transaction strange. The Broncos must have known there was an awfully good chance the Chiefs would claim Orton -- I mean, John Elway probably watched that Monday night game and saw what Palko means to that team , right? -- if they waived him. Since Orton will be a free agent after this season, there’s a decent chance he’ll sign elsewhere in the offseason, and that means the Chiefs could win a compensatory draft pick* if they lose him.

*Can you imagine if the Chiefs beat the Broncos, expose Tim Tebow, win the AFC West and THEN get a mid-round draft pick for him?

On the Denver side, Tebow, who knocked Orton out of the starting quarterback role, seemed happy for his former colleague.

"Congratulations to him,” Tebow said, via the Denver Post. “That’ll be fun to play him the last game of the year."

But won’t Orton have a big advantage in knowing what kind of offense the Broncos run and the signals they use? After all, Orton ran that offense for the first five games of the season.

"Obviously he knows it pretty well, so he could probably give away a few things,” Tebow said. “But I think we’ll be OK.”

The Bears and Cowboys also made waiver claims on Orton, meaning that even if the Chiefs didn’t win him, Orton would be traveling to Dallas now based on the waiver order. What’s interesting about the claim made by the Cowboys -- who obviously have a starting quarterback named Tony Romo but have a backup in Jon Kitna who has a balky back -- is that it smells like Dallas claimed him simply to block Chicago from getting him.

That’s because the two teams will battle for one of the NFC wild card spots, and the Cowboys know as well as anybody that Chicago would have a better chance of accomplishing that if it played Orton instead of Caleb Hanie.

Meanwhile, the Bears announced that Jay Cutler underwent thumb surgery Wednesday and should begin rehab “within the next few days.” Chicago will still have Hanie starting this week and the forseeable future, though the team also announced that it’s signed Josh McCown to a one-year deal Wednesday. Not quite as exciting as landing Orton. But it’s something, I suppose.

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Posted on: November 23, 2011 12:12 pm
Edited on: November 23, 2011 1:32 pm
 

Texans place Matt Schaub on IR, sign Clemens

ClemensPosted by Josh Katzowitz

While there had been some hope, however slim, that Matt Schaub could return from his foot injury sometime this season and lead the Texans into the playoffs, that has been dashed.

As Rapid Reporter Brandon Williams writes, the Texans have placed Schaub on the season-ending IR list. Which obviously is devastating news for the Texans. Now, as CBSSports.com's Mike Freeman tweets, Houston's season has just been placed on IR as well.

Also, you can scratch off the Texans as potential suitors for newly-waived quarterback Kyle Orton. That’s because the team has signed former Jets quarterback Kellen Clemens to the squad.

At this point, it doesn’t appear Clemens will be competing with Matt Leinart for the No. 1 spot, abandoned by Schaub because of his season-ending injury. Instead, Clemens, a 2006 second-round pick of the Jets, will back up Leinart and rookie T.J. Yates.

As was pointed out Tuesday, Clemens tried out for the Texans on Monday along with Jeff Garcia, Trent Edwards and Brody Croyle, and they went with a quarterback who, at one point, seemed a potential alternative to Mark Sanchez in New York.

What this also means is that the Bears might have a better shot of claiming Orton off waivers -- teams will have until 4 p.m. today to make a claim. Since Houston and the Chiefs are in need of a quarterback and since both had priority over Chicago, one potential foil for the Bears is out of the running.

Which means we might really see Orton return to his old team to try to save the day.

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Posted on: November 22, 2011 6:31 pm
 

Reports: Texans out on Orton, Bears interested

OrtonPosted by Josh Katzowitz

Since the Broncos made the big news of the day by giving Kyle Orton a huge break waiving former starting quarterback Kyle Orton, speculation has run rampant on Twitter about the next chapter of Orton’s career journey.

The two most popular choices are the Bears and the Texans, although the Chiefs, who would have waiver priority over Chicago and Houston, also would make sense.

Well, according to the Houston Chronicle’s John McClain, you can count out the Texans for making a claim on Orton.  Writes McClain: “Texans aren't interested in Orton. if (injured quarterback Matt) Schaub learns Wednesday he needs surgery, they'll sign one of vets they brought in for tryouts Monday.”

The Tebow era officially begins...
Among the group of veterans who performed for Houston’s staff were Jeff Garcia, Trent Edwards, Kellen Clemens and Brody Croyle. While you’d think Orton would be a better choice than any of those signal-callers, the Texans apparently are content to see how Matt Leinart will fare.

The Bears, though, might have real interest. The Chicago Tribune’s Vaughn McClure confirms the speculation that the Bears will make a claim on Orton, though Orton doesn’t have any experience in offensive coordinator Mike Martz’s system. Also, as the Trib's Brad Biggs points out, since the Bears are 30th in the waiver order, they could not bother making a claim and then try to sign him to their own deal if nobody else has taken him already.

And CBSSports.com’s Clark Judge makes this point: “Both need him, but Chicago really needs him. I mean, whom would you trust -- Caleb Hanie or Kyle Orton? Orton not only has been with the Bears; he helped lead them to the playoffs. Teammates loved him then, and they will love him again ... because he's a quarterback who can win and who has won. I'm not so sure about Hanie.”

The waiver deadline is Wednesday at 3 p.m., so for now, all we’ve got is speculation. And who knows? The team which is first on the waiver wire, the Colts, are in desperate need of a quarterback as well.

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Posted on: November 22, 2011 4:17 pm
Edited on: November 22, 2011 5:13 pm
 

Broncos release QB Kyle Orton

Tebow may not be the future in Denver, but he's definitely the present. (US PRESSWIRE)

Posted by Ryan Wilson

Kyle Orton lost the Broncos starting job after a 1-4 start. Now, he's out of work altogether. The team released Orton executive vice president John Elway announced Tuesday, according to the Denver Post.

The Tebow era officially begins...

Orton arrived in Denver prior to the 2009 season as part of the trade that sent Jay Cutler to Chicago. In his first two years, he threw for almost 7,500 yards and had 41 touchdowns against 21 interceptions. And even though then-coach Josh McDaniels used a first-round pick on Tim Tebow in 2010, Orton entered the 2011 season as the unquestioned starter.

Five weeks later, that all changed after Orton played himself out of the job. Enter Tim Tebow who, based on his preseason performance, was fully expected to fail. Instead, head coach John Fox refashioned the offense to highlight Tebow's strengths -- namely, running -- and now the Broncos are a read-option dynamo and just one game back of the Raiders in the AFC West.

Tebow's surprising success also made Orton, who is in the last year of his contract, expendable. According to Broncos executive John Elway, there's no guarantee that the long-term gig is Tebow's, but it wasn't going to be Orton's either.

Here's what John Fox and Elway had to say about Orton in statements released by the team.

Fox: "I spoke with Kyle earlier today and thanked him for everything he did for the Broncos. He was a true professional throughout this season. I’ve got a great deal of respect for him as both a player and as a person.       

"This was the right decision for our football team. We feel good about our quarterback group, and this gives Kyle an opportunity to help another team and showcase his talents.      

“I wish Kyle and his family all the best going forward.”

Elway: “I would like to thank Kyle for all his work with the Denver Broncos. In the three years that he’s been here, he’s been an absolute pro. We thought it was best for the Broncos at this time as well as for Kyle to catch on with a different team.        

“Kyle is going to have more options in the NFL. He’ll get an opportunity to play somewhere else, and we wish him the best of luck.”

So now what? Well, Denver will ride the running game as far as it takes them. And Orton's services, no doubt, will be in high demand.

Chicago, the team that drafted him in 2005, just lost Jay Cutler, possibly for the rest of the regular season.

The Post reports that Orton and his agent David Dunn began talking with the Broncos about his release when it was learned that Cutler suffered a broken thumb and might miss 6-8 weeks. Orton declined comment.

Other possibilities: the Chiefs, which have to be in the market after watching Tyler Palko throw three interceptions against the Patriots Monday night (Kansas City placed Matt Cassel on injured reserve earlier this week). And depending on what happens with Matt Leinart and the Texans, Houston could be looking for a quarterback, too.

For now, Tebow is the man in Denver. And it's only a matter of time before Orton is the man … somewhere else.

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