Tag:NFL Draft
Posted on: May 4, 2011 11:27 am

Podcast: post draft analysis and debate

Posted by Will Brinson

The draft is over, and Andy Benoit and I have recovered just long enough to bring you a full-blown draft recap podcast. Yes, you're welcome.

After a quick discussion of the current labor issues (what you need to know), we dive right into the winners/losers thing, and spend time making fun of the Seahawks and then making fun of Seahawks for making fun of us making fun of the Seahawks. It's quite perplexing. Then we debate the run of quarterbacks in the first round, the value of getting "your guy" instead of getting someone at the correct value spot, whether the Browns and Falcons deal was smart and how various teams fared with their individual drafts.

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Posted on: May 4, 2011 10:31 am

Lions tried to trade up for Patrick Peterson

Posted by Andy Benoit
P. Peterson
Most mock drafts had the Detroit Lions taking a cornerback in the first round. Apparently, the Lions’ own mock draft was no exception.

Dave Birkett of the Detroit Free Press reports that the Lions tried to trade up to No. 5 in order to draft LSU corner Patrick Peterson. They offered the Cardinals their first, second and fourth-round picks. Obviously, the Cardinals rejected and took Peterson themselves.

Detroit’s interest in Peterson was more about the player than filling a need at the position. When the Lions picked at No. 13, all of the other corners were still on the board. Lions GM Martin Mayhew, however, chose Auburn defensive tackle Nick Fairley. Mayhew also passed on corners in the second round – twice.

Posted on: May 4, 2011 12:08 am

Hot Routes 5.3.11: Trading 1st-rounders is bad

Posted by Will Brinson

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  • Jason Lisk at The Big Lead did some pretty cool research on trading first-round picks and how it's worked out for teams. Well, it's not like stat-heavy or anything (Lisk does some really good stuff on that end), but he still breaks down whether or not dealing future first-round picks is a good move or not. Obviously, a lot of it has to do with the drafting acumen of the team receiving the pick and the inability of the current team do draft correctly, and three deals are listed as "too early" (I'd say pretty clearly Denver lost the Alphonso Smith deal, the Panthers lost the Everette Brown deal and won the Jeff Otah deal) but the pretty obvious answer is that no, no it does not work out.
Posted on: May 3, 2011 9:37 am

Herzlich taken with 51st overall in UFL Draft

Posted by Will Brinson

When the Houston Texans picked Mr. Irrelevant on the final day of the NFL Draft, I'm willing to bet I wasn't the only one hoping Mark Herzlich would get selected as the most memorable final pick in draft history.

Alas, the Texans drafted someone ... less relevant. And Herzlich, the one-time ACC Defensive Player of the Year, went undrafted. Until Monday night, anyway, when he was the 51st overall UFL selection.

I'm sure you watched the draft live, but in case you didn't, you can check the results at the UFL's site; they're pretty fascinating, from a PR-mixed-with-football perspective.

For instance, Ryan Sims, the sixth-overall pick in 2002, was taken in the second round (ninth overall) by the Virginia Destroyers. He's a big name and a former talent, but there's a reason why he's not already signed by an NFL team despite being a Top-10 pick just a few years ago.

Jerrod Johnson, a former duel-threat QB for Texas A&M, who was taken with the first-overall selection last night, is actually more of a "football" pick, because he has the chance to light up a league like the UFL.

Whereas the Destroyers' decision to draft "the other Adrian Peterson" (formerly of the Bears) is probably just a move to trick people into buying AP jerseys.

I'd like to think that the Omaha Nighthawks decision to draft Herzlich with the 51st overall pick is all about football -- the dude can play, after all -- but given that they lead his blurb with the line "best stories in all of college football in 2010," it's hard to imagine that they're really into Herzlich just for his ball-hawking skills.

Of course, a UFL team happening to recognize that Herzlich's story makes him a fantastic late-round flier -- especially in a time when fans are becoming a little disconcerted with the "other" league -- really only makes that team smarter than 32 other NFL squads.

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Posted on: May 2, 2011 5:15 pm

Hot Routes 5.2.11: Draft viewership up AND down

Posted by Will Brinson

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  • Austin Karp of the Sports Business Journal reports that the NFL Network had it's best three-day viewership of the NFL Draft they've had yet. However, ESPN saw a dip -- 17.7 percent, actually, which is a LOT -- in draft viewership. What does that tell me? More people have the NFL Network now than used to, hence the growth in viewership. Otherwise, it's pretty obvious that the NFL Draft wasn't nearly as compelling with the labor junk going on in the background.
  • The NFL has responded to the news that Dave Duerson had brain damage when he committed suicide, saying they will continue to support the work of the scientists at Boston University.
Posted on: May 2, 2011 2:47 pm
Edited on: May 2, 2011 2:55 pm

NFL files appeal to keep lockout, players respond

Posted by Will Brinson

With the NFL Draft now over, it's back to the exciting labor chatter: on Monday, the NFL filed a brief with the 8th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, arguing for the lockout to remain permanently in place until the two sides sort out their differences.

In the middle of the Draft on Friday, we reported that the lockout was back on, thanks to a temporary stay granted by the Court of Appeals in St. Louis. The NFL's brief on Monday wants to keep the lockout going until the two sides can sort out their differences.

The two primary points of the NFL's brief are jurisdiction and the damages that would result in not having a lockout in place.

The NFL cited the Norris-LaGuardia Act in arguing that a federal court "may not interfere -- on either side -- in cases involving or growing out of a labor dispute." In other words, they don't want Nelson affecting the way the labor negotiations play out.

The NFL believes that the lockout would not, as Nelson ruled, cause the "the players no material, and certainly no irreparable harm."

The NFL also stated that, thanks to an expedited appeal, the issues between the two parties "could readily be resolved during the offseason."
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"The absence of a stay would irreparably harm the NFL by undercutting its labor law rights and irreversibly scrambling the eggs of player-club transactions," the NFL attorneys wrote. "Absent a stay, there will be trades, player signings, players cut under existing contracts, and a host of other changes in employment relationships" between hundreds of players and the 32 NFL teams.

The players responded with their own letter to the Court of Appeals on Monday afternoon, written "to correct a misstatement by the NFL Defendants in their reply brief."

The players' attorneys cite both "sworn declarations from their agents, who have more than 165 years of collective experience negotiating NFL players' contracts and have first-hand knowledge of the market for NFL players" and "multiple declarations from Richard A. Berthelsen -- an attorney for the NFLPA for almost 40 years who has witnessed previous occasions when the NFL Defendants operated without a collective bargaining agreement and suffered no harm."

In other words, the issue at hand in deciding whether or not the lockout stays or goes is who's being harmed the most right now.

The players argued that they are harmed irreparably in the immediate sense and Nelson agreed with them, lifting the lockout.

The NFL said that's an exaggerated claim. Players, the league said, would not lose their opportunity to play for the team of their choice once the league year begins, even if that's in late June or early July instead of early May. That process usually starts in early March.

The NFL complained that Nelson ignored evidence that many players, including two of the 10 plaintiffs, Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins, skip team-organized workouts in the offseason. Jackson and Mankins both held out well into the start of the 2010 season, the league noted, "indicating that missing time in the offseason is not irreparable harm."

The NFL also cited comments by players Ray Lewis and Wes Walker about their appreciation of extra free time now with the lockout in place and no mandatory minicamps or other offseason activities allowed to take place.

Welker said, "Let's do a lockout every year," according to the league's court filing.

Those comments don't help the players' case of course, but it may not matter -- the Court of Appeals must find that Nelson (essentially) abused her judicial power if they overturn her ruling.

It's not simply enough to disagree with her decision or to find the players' comments about the lockout pithy enough to make them worth flipping a legal ruling.

Certainly the Court of Appeals could find that the NFL is more at risk for immediate irreparable harm, though, and that could result in the lockout remaining until a final ruling is made.

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Posted on: May 2, 2011 11:09 am
Edited on: May 2, 2011 11:57 am

Vikings hoping Ponder can start Week 1

Posted by Will Brinson

The Minnesota Vikings shocked the world when they grabbed Florida State quarterback Christian Ponder

"Ideally, I'd like for him to be ready to go when we play San Diego (on Sept. 11)," Frazier said, per Tom Pelissero of 1500 ESPN Twin Cities.

But the building up of high expectations doesn't end there! Oh no: Frazier made some pretty hefty comparisons when it comes to young quarterbacks who stepped in and won right away.

"That would be the ideal situation -- we've got our Matt Ryan, we've got our (Joe) Flacco, we've got our (Mark) Sanchez right here. But because of the uncertainty of the offseason, it's just hard to determine exactly how you want to approach it. So, we need a little more clarity on what this offseason's going to be like."

This is pretty fascinating, because it was kind of always expected that the Vikings would just end up with Donovan McNabb. That's just because, um, well, I don't know -- they both had interest in one another and it seemed like a fit.
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Ponder getting drafted could still mean McNabb comes along, especially if the lockout lasts for a while and the coaching staff is unable to work with Ponder extensively before the seasons starts.

However, if they do get a chance to work with Ponder, and he gets enough reps before the season starts, it seems that Minnesota could be going all-in on their rookie, while also concerning themselves with getting the most out of a roster that doesn't have much time left on a window to make a run at the Super Bowl.

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Posted on: May 2, 2011 10:07 am

Ireland: Fins not 'desperate' for QB before draft

Posted by Will Brinson

Lots of teams did lots of things during this past week's draft in order to get a quarterback; most of the "things" were versions of reaching. The biggest moves by some teams, though, was no move at all.

The Miami Dolphins were one of those teams who did nothing, and it seemed odd, because they've done everything short of indicate that Chad Henne isn't capable of running their offense on a regular basis, from benching him for Chad Pennington and Tyler Thigpen, to expressing interest in every single QB available in the draft. And yet ... Jeff Ireland made it seem like the 'Fins weren't "desperate" for a signal caller.

"I think we'll have to look in free agency if we're going to do that," Ireland said, per Andrew Carter of the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. "Certainly we'll look at all the quarterbacks in depth. The [draft] board didn't fall right for us to pick up a quarterback.

"I didn't feel like we were desperate for one and so we didn't adjust our board to try to go after one."

So the Dolphins interest in all the quarterbacks on the draft board was just a smokescreen now? And they'll just add a veteran? Come on.

Ireland's right about the draft board to some extent -- Cam Newton, Blaine Gabbert, Jake Locker and Christian Ponder were all gone by 15, and the only player who really seemed to be tied to Miami was Ryan Mallett.

Obviously they weren't that interested in him. (And the rumors that the Pats simply drafted Mallett to block him from going to Miami? Settle down, people -- Miami had plenty of chances to grab Mallett.)

Whatever, it looks like everyone in Miami is about as confused re: the quarterbacking situation with the Dolphins as everyone out of Miami. Although Henne should be pretty pumped, I guess. If things play out like they did after Tony Sparano was publicly embarrassed by his employer shopping elsewhere, then the Michigan QB could be in line for a big raise.

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